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DARKSTAR
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DS9-Romulas 21 Days at Warp 9.9
DS9- Bajor 3-5 hours at Full Impulse
DS9-Badlands 6 Hours at Warp 9
DS9-Cardassia 12 hours at Warp 9.2
DS9-Starbase 375 2.5 days at Warp 9.9
DS9-Earth 12 days at Warp 9.9
DS9-Qu'nos 19 days at Warp 9.9
Romulas-Earth 9 days at Warp 9.9 (30 days at warp 8-NCC-1701-maximum speed)
Earth-Qu'nos 7 days at Warp 9.9 (20 days at Warp 8 at NCC-1701-maximum speed)
Earth-Wolf 359 1 day at Warp 9.9
Earth-Vulcan 2 days at warp 9.9 (a week a NCC 1701-maximum speed)
DS9-Ferenginar 5 days at warp 9.9
DS9-Chintoka 1.5 days at warp 9.9 (This system is in the sector below Bajor in the DS9 Tech Manual map)
DS9-DMZ 2 days at Warp 9.9
DMZ-Cardassia 1 day at warp 9.9

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And where'd all these numbers come from?

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Based on calculations I've made using quotes and mentioned dialogue in all the series and using both data and text form the TNG and DS9 tech manuals.
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Omega
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One thing that's wrong is that DS9 can't possibly be three weeks away from Qo'noS. See "House of Quark."

Nor can Earth be 12 days away from DS9 at warp 9.9. It took a maximum of 13 days to get from Earth to DS9, according to "The Search." "...last Tuesday, when you took all this stuff out of storage on Earth." Thus, Ben and Jake were on Earth some day that could legitimately be called "last Tuesday," and were on the station later. The most number of days later that you can still legitimately call something "last whatever" is thirteen. Thus, thirteen days away from Earth, and the warp speed limit was in effect, so they had to be going no faster than warp 5. 13 days at warp 5 is a LOT closer than 12 days at warp 9.9.

Bajor, and thus the station, has to be pretty well in the middle of things.

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Michael Dracon
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Hey Darkstar, you may want to say that you calculated that in the first post, that prevents people having to ask that.

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By the end of 2370, Warp engines were redesigned with new warp coils which didn't damage subspace. All ships in the Federation fleet were equipped with the new warp coils. Ships such as the Defiant,Intrepid and Soveriegn and later classes were equipped with these new warp coils. Also exsisting classes were equipped with the coils. The ban was lifted by the end of 2370-it just wasn't mentioned in the episodes or the movies.
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"The ban was lifted by the end of 2370-it just wasn't mentioned in the episodes or the movies."

This may seem redundant, but then how do you know this?

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Omega
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Agreed. Where the heck did you get that idea, Darkstar?

The warp speed limit was established in "Force of Nature," which took place on stardate 47310. It was mentioned again in "The Pegasus," on stardate 47457.1. "The Search" took place on stardate 48212.4, by which time you claim it to have been revoked.

Your theory requires that inside of nine months, Starfleet not only managed to analyze a completely new problem, but also designed an engine to fix said problem, and overhauled a ship that had been built five years before so that it could use the new engine. No frikin' way.

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The kicker, of course, is the "it just wasn't mentioned in the episodes or the movies."

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Well the problem was supposedly solved by "Caretaker" which took place on star date 48315.6--not too long after "The Search". So as far as, "Your theory requires that inside of nine months, Starfleet not only managed to analyze a completely new problem, but also designed an engine to fix said problem..." I would say yes they were able to do most of that (well within fifteen months anyway).

I am not saying that Starfleet would have been able to retrofit the entire fleet at that time, but they may have implemented the new warp drives on all new vessels. As far as the warp five speed limit, I am sure that it still applies to any vessels that haven't been modified (there may still be some out there).


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New ships? Do you have any idea how long Voyager took to build? The thing's engines would have been in place LONG before she went into service. And again, did they actually SAY that the problem had been solved?

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I think what Darkstar is saying is that the problem can be deduced to have been solved since AFTER that episodes we have routinely seen starships cruising at high past the "speed limit" ...

Er, I don't think the engines being replaced is a difficult thing to believe. It makes sense for Starfleet to be able to pull it out and replace a starship's engines rather easily, otherwise, wouldn't all those Mirandas be obsolete? Also, what proof do you offer that the engines were in place first? If the Starfleet Corps of Engineers was aware of a new modified warp drive coming into service on the 12th of 2070 and Voy started construction in 2068, they may have decided to leave out the engine until the modified version was ready. Sure it may have added some time to the schedule, but at least they'd have a ship capable of faster than Warp 5 travel! (Dates are complete conjecture, just there to make the point)

But I digress.

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I always figured that the nacelles would be the last things to be buttoned up, the warp core on of the final elements placed, & then the bridge.

Or at least, that's how it works at MY shipyards...

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Michael Dracon
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This proves to me that the Federation is already using time travel to their advantage. First they go back in time to send the Hanson family on their search for the Borg and their Queen (They could even detect lifesigns on a Cube, while the Enterprise could not at first), and now they do so to improve their warp system designs...

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I wonder why they didn't go even further back to prevent it from ever starting then.
Must be the Temporal Speed Limit then- only allowed to go back so many months to years.

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