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Teelie
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I wonder why they didn't go even further back to prevent it from ever starting then.
Must be the Temporal Speed Limit then- only allowed to go back so many months to years.

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I can't see how every starship up until Voyager had subspace-damaging coils. It sounds like post-constructed info from some novel.
I remember hearing that the Constellation-class had faulty engines which damaged subspace but I think that was non-canon too.
I could imagine starships up until 2350 maybe being subspace-unhealthy, but am I to believe that the Enterprise-D flew around in all them seven seasons with an ongoing bio-hazard???

Also DARKSTAR, you mentioned something about that alleged coil-ban then being LIFTED in late 2370?
What's that all about?? Did those supposedly faulty coils get in style again or what?

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Darkstar's lack of supporting evidence aside, I see no real concern with Starfleet fixing the subspace damage problem. My theory was that the fix involved a recalibration of warp field equations with the same hardware, solving the problem without a fleet-wise replacement of huge parts.

This would also make sense if the problem were limited to the local AQ species, many of whom share the same kinds of warp technologies. That is, that most of the REST of the galaxy had fixed the problem, or designed around it already. I mean, LOTS of the other species had been using warp travel for thousands of years or longer. The galaxy would have already been a really dirty place if the pollution thing had been true.

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TSN
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Nimrod: Erm... Never seen "Force of Nature"...?

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Timo
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In any case, the trip the Siskos took from Earth to DS9 need not have been limited by the warp 5 rule. It was something of an emergency, after all. So what if a few subspace squirrels get killed by the pollution when the future of the Federation is at stake? If Sisko did the whole trip aboard the Defiant, with a known top speed of warp 9.5 (AFTER O'Brien's tinkering), then we would still have a lower distance estimate than given by Darkstar, but much higher than if we assumed warp 5. And if the Siskos booked passage on a fast courier ship that took <13 days to gap the distance at constant warp 9.9, and the Defiant was sent ahead earlier on at her somewhat lower maximum speed, then we could buy Darkstar's estimate as is.

How long did Sisko spend on Earth again between "Jem'Hadar" and "The Search"? We have to remember to count in not just the two weeks from Earth to DS9, but the two weeks in the other direction (assuming Sisko had an equally fast ship for this trip and it was available immediately - which is quite likely, since Starfleet would have been sending in reinforcements to DS9 after the loss of the Odyssey). Did Sisko spend more than a month on his Earth trip? Either Dax or Kira stated the exact time in the beginning of "The Search".

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I think the either the DS9 Tech Man, the chronology or the encyclopedia might mention new warp engines and thus no speed limit. I remember reading it somewhere too (and I don't read the novels, so it must have been in one of the reference books). I think they were talking specifically about Voyager.

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Lee
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I thought the Defiant couldn't do more than about warp 8.

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Well, if Bajor is 50ly from Earth (as the DS9TM sort of suggests), and it took 13 days to make the trip, that's about 1404c, which is just under W8.8.

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Omega
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The Deffie went 9.2 in "The Sound of Her Voice", and they were pretty clear that that was her maximum normal speed. O'Brian managed to get her up to 9.6, but only at the cost of draining the phaser capacitors, or something like that.

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Aban Rune
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The Deffie's speed at the end of the series was different than her max speed when she first came to DS9 though. Remember, they fixed a bunch of design problems that limited her speed and power. So the trip from Earth when Sisko first brought her back to the station was probably a little slower then what it would have been in, say, "Past Tense".

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Timo
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It is also possible that the problems were fixed by slapping limiters on the engines. That is, if the ship threatened to tear itself apart at warp 9.1, the simplest solution for O'Brien was to tell Sisko not to go past warp 9.0! That would make the ship slower as time passed, not faster.

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Except that neither O'Brien, or Sisko, or pretty much any Starfleet captains work like that anyway. If O'Brien said "The ship's tearing itself apart at warp 9.1", Sisko would want the problem solved, not avoided.

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