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Baloo
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The subject of Dr. Pepper came up on another thread and I thought I'd just do a little research to substantiate Sol System's assertion that Cecil Adams (of "The Straight Dope" fame) said there is no prune juice in Dr. Pepper.

I have also heard this, but am admittedly not an expert on all things Dr. Pepper. I present the following search, composed whilst actually seeking the secret of Dr. Pepper.

  1. Having searched Cecil Adams' site I was unable to find a reference. This doesn't mean he didn't debunk the "Prune Juice Theory" (henceforth referred to as PJT. Why? I like acronyms).

    Hmmm... I expected confirmation of no prune juice fairly quickly. This may take some effort.

  2. Searching for "Dr. Pepper" on the SNOPES site, I was also unable to confirm or disprove PJT. I did, however, discover this: http://snopes.simplenet.com/spoons/noose/elephant.htm

    What made the article all the more amusing was the following illustration:


    "Dammit! I said SIT"!

    No joy at SNOPES.

  3. I checked the alt.folklore.urban FAQ and found links to several enlightening parts of a discussion that had very little to do with PJT.

    Message 17 of 282 for search dr pepper

    The above information is of very little help.

Anyone else care to join the search? The truth is out there, but it's vastly outnumbered by a lot of other stuff that isn't the truth.

--Baloo

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[This message was edited by Baloo on April 10, 1999.]


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Charles Capps
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According to Inventors Who Left Their Brands On America by Frank H. Olsen (published 1991), Dr. Pepper was originally a blend of 23 "fruit flavors" - not nessecarially fruit juices. (Pg. 187)

Again, not much help. *L*

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Sol System
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I could have sworn I read that at Mr. Adam's site.

However, you might want to see if you can find the Dr. Pepper newsgroup FAQ.

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Jeff Raven
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Dr. Phrink: Using this high-tech spetroanalysis device, we have found the secret ingredient to be...*waits for printout, then reads it* LOVE?!
Alright, who's been playing with this thing?!

Actually, I have a book at home called "Big Secrets" which gives the secret ingredient to many of the foods we eat. For instance, those 11 herbs and spices of KFC? They're all common stuff(no biggie, except for a little msg). It also explains Coke's secret "7x" ingredient, but spectroanalysis comes up inconclusive(but we know it is a hydrocarbon complex!).

And I do believe it has Dr Pepper's formula in there too...I'll have to find the book and read it off.

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Siegfried
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*pops open a can of Dr. Pepper and leans back*

Whatever the heck is in this nectar of the gods, it's good. I don't care what's in it. 'Cause I love it, baby!

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Baloo
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Well, I finally had enough time to spare and looked for the alt.fan.dr-pepper faq (this time I used Google. The breakthrough came when I discovered (to my surprise) that the "Dr" in Dr Pepper does not contain a period. (They address this in the FAQ, BTW.)

I quote the relevant passages here:

  1. Does Dr Pepper contain prune juice?

    In a word: NO!

  2. Okay, so what's in Dr Pepper?

    On the label in the US, the ingredients are: Carbonated Water; Imperial Pure Cane Sugar [or "High Fructose Corn Syrup and/or Sugar," if you're not so lucky]; Caramel Color; Phosphoric Acid; Artificial and Natural Flavors; Sodium Benzoate (Preservative); Caffeine.

    Chris Dunthorne told me on 7/3/98 that the ingredients on the label in the UK are a little different: "Carbonated Water, Sugar, Colour (Caramel E150d), Phosphoric Acid, Flavourings, Preservative (E211), Caffeine."

    John Neely, a formerly anonymous Canadian, submitted "Ingredients from The Great White North" on 10/27/98: "Carbonated Water, Sugar/Glucose-Fructose, Carmel colour, Artificial and Natural flavors, Phosphoric acid, sodium benzoate, Caffeine, monosodium phosphate, lactic acid, polyethelene glycol."

    Trace McLean also on 10/27/98 posted the ingredients for Australian Dr Pepper "taken straight from the bottle": "Carbonated water, sugar, colour (150), flavours, food acids (338, 270), preservative (211), caffeine."

    [Just for the hell of it, here's the ingredients for Diet Dr Pepper in the U.S., as posted by Tom Reed on 11/23/98: "Carbonated water, caramel color, aspartame, phosphoric acid, artificial and natural flavors, sodium benzoate (preservative), caffeine. Phenylketonurics: contains phenylalanine."]

    The Dr Pepper company had this to say in a pamphlet it published sometime in either the late 1950's or early 1960's: "Its unique flavor results from the blending of pure fruit flavors (gathered from throughout the world) with mystic spices, from far-off Madagascar, and clean, clear distilled sparkling water." You don't suppose one of those spices is vanilla, do you?

    Brian McElroy posted to alt.fan.dr-pepper on 1/19/98 (and emailed me a correction on 6/30/98) about his visit to the Dublin Dr Pepper plant, which I think definitively answers two questions at once:

    "Just got back today from the Dublin bottling plant and museum. There has been a lot of debate on what flavor Dr Pepper really is, so I asked Mr. Kloster [Bill Kloster], the plant owner, who has worked in that plant for almost 60 years. According to him, Dr Pepper is a mix of 23 different fruit flavors. The original creator wanted to create a drink that tasted like the smell of a soda shop. When you walked into a soda shop in that day, you smelled all the fruit flavors of the different sodas all mixed into one. So he basically took a bunch of flavors and mixed them, and came up with Dr Pepper. He said Dr Pepper does not and has never had prune juice in it."

So there you are. The Dr Pepper FAQ is at http://www.pipeline.com/~chrisf/dpfaq.html if you want to see more information about that beverage than you ever thought existed.

--Baloo

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There goes the "extract of peach pit" theory!


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RW
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No pepper?

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Jubilee
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I have only one thing to say to all this research on the PJT theory.

WE NEED TO GET A LIFE!

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Baloo
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Already got one, thanks! This is what I do with my FREE time!

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Siegfried
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You know, I see nothing wrong at all with this thread or research.

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Krenim
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*Feels a Simpsons quote coming on*

Barney: I don't know where you magic pixies came from, but I sure do like your pixie drink!

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Hey Baloo,

If this is what you do in your free time, I'd hate to see what you are capable of at work...

hehehe...Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Dani
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Personally I don't care WHAT'S in the stuff, it's sooooo yummy. (I was trying to coerce my boss into putting it into the pop machine at work, since it seems that us techies specifically seem to guzzle quite a bit of it....)

I also have Dr. Pepper lip balm if that interests anyone...*LOL*


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Siegfried
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Dr. Pepper lip balm? Dani, I know I don't you at all, but, um, wanna get married?

Yes, I am that much of a Dr. Pepper addict.

*bows head in disgrace and pops opens a can of Dr. Pepper*

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Dani
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Siegfried:

*LOL* It would definitely be the marriage of two true addicts. Ask Charles, I nearly made myself sick on the stuff last night...mmmm...*goes over to the pop machine at work and pounds it for a bit, wishing there was Dr Pepper inside*

*sigh*


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