Over here http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ you can read a blog from an Iraqi woman. It's interesting, especially, to read some of the earlier posts and see how it's changed.
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I remember hearing something about that on another website...thanks for the link, Ace, I gotta check it out.
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quote:I sometimes get emails asking me to propose solutions or make suggestions. Fine. Today's lesson: don't rape, don't torture, don't kill and get out while you can- while it still looks like you have a choice... Chaos? Civil war? Bloodshed? We�ll take our chances- just take your Puppets, your tanks, your smart weapons, your dumb politicians, your lies, your empty promises, your rapists, your sadistic torturers and go.
Ouch.
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"Today's lesson: don't rape, don't torture, don't kill and get out while you can- while it still looks like you have a choice... Chaos? Civil war? Bloodshed? We�ll take our chances- just take your Puppets, your tanks, your smart weapons, your dumb politicians, your lies, your empty promises, your rapists, your sadistic torturers and go."
Pity nobody could say this to the previous occupant.
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Or the future one, if we leave, as she suggests.
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"Pity nobody could say this to the previous occupant."
Pity that now that the Iraqis CAN say what they think, they're saying the same things they thought about said previous occupant, too.
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Well look at their source of "news". Al Jezerra is a whole lot more propaganda than even the old Soviet Union stations (from what I've seen at least).
Media plays a huge role in what they think of the war as well.
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Except they have a second source that plays an even greater role: the streets.
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The previous occupant's mass media didn't flood the papers/airwaves with every bad thing he did and every person he tormented.
If they had, they would have needed a 24-hr. "All Torture Network." (With Actual Death!)
Fortunately, they now have the Western Media Fifth Column - er, Fourth Estate - to do this for them.
Of course, this is the same media which admitted to intentionally not telling news stories about said occupant. The News We Kept To Ourselves
quote:Then there were the events that were not unreported but that nonetheless still haunt me. A 31-year-old Kuwaiti woman, Asrar Qabandi, was captured by Iraqi secret police occupying her country in 1990 for "crimes," one of which included speaking with CNN on the phone. They beat her daily for two months, forcing her father to watch. In January 1991, on the eve of the American-led offensive, they smashed her skull and tore her body apart limb by limb. A plastic bag containing her body parts was left on the doorstep of her family's home.
Now that's "prisoner abuse."
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quote:Originally posted by Cartman: Except they have a second source that plays an even greater role: the streets.
Y'ever notice that the "Arab street" are all a bunch of peace-loving people who just want to go about their business, as long as you're talking about what the American opinion of them should be, but then they suddenly they become this dangerous, threatening, monolithic hostile force when people start talking about their own opinion?
Curious.
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quote:My uncle had some unusual sense of humor that didn�t fit quite well in his somewhat religious family. He winked at me and turned to his son and asked him "What do you think of the Americans?" His son answered, "They are occupiers". "So you think we should fight them?" his father asked. Ibrahim said "No, but I don�t like them". My uncle said, pretending to change the subject "Do you like your new computer that no one shares with you?" "Yes of course dad". "Ok, are you satisfied with the satellite dish receiver we have or do you need a better one?" "This one is fine but I heard there�s a better one that gets more channels" "ok I�ll get you that next week". Then he said, "Is there anything else you�d like to have son?" "No dad I have all that I need". "Ok but how about a car?" Ibrahim was astounded and said "Really? a..a CAR.. for me!?". "Of course for you! I�m too old to drive now and my eyes are not that well and you are the older son. So whom else would it be for!?" "Oh, dad that will be great! When will that happen?" "Just finish you�re exams and you�ll have it". "I will dad". "Are you happy now son?" "Yes dad, sure I am!" "Then why do you hate the Americans you son of a b***h!? I couldn�t get you a bicycle a year ago, I could hardly feed you and your brothers and sisters. You didn�t know what an apple or a banana tasted like, I couldn�t buy you a damned Pepsi bottle except in occasions, and now you can have all that you wish, and a car of your own! Who do you think made that possible!?"
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Somehow, that does'nt read like an actual blog from anywhere except mabye the Rush Limbaugh show.
What's the source?
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The source is the link at the top of the quote.
The gentleman, Ali, is apparently a doctor.
quote:Now I know this is still a very low figure compared to what doctors get in other countries, but look at the pace of the raises; 120, 150, 200, 300 all in one year! I mean it�s spooky. What will it be the next year, 500$? And what about 3 or 4 years from now? A thousand or can I dare and say few thousand dollars? Will we get more than what the Syrian, Egyptian Iranian and even Saudi doctors!? What a disaster will it be to the mullahs of Iran, Bashar Al-Assad and the king of Saudi Arabia?
He gives his and another doctor's impressions of the Abu Gharaib events on the May 8th entry.
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The previous occupant's mass media didn't flood the papers/airwaves with every bad thing he did and every person he tormented.
It's almost as if the media deliberately WANT the Iraqis to think negatively about the current occupant, isn't it?
Of course, this is the same media which admitted to intentionally not telling news stories about said occupant.
Yeah, because CNN is the only western media network, right?
Now that's "prisoner abuse."
Nah, the abuse that went on at A-G wasn't really that bad, was it? And those few prisoners that were tortured, pffft, compared to what Saddam was capable of, they were LUCKY to be at the mercy of American soldiers, weren't they?
Y'ever notice that the "Arab street" are all a bunch of peace-loving people who just want to go about their business, as long as you're talking about what the American opinion of them should be, but then they suddenly they become this dangerous, threatening, monolithic hostile force when people start talking about their own opinion?
I notice they become this dangerous, threatening, monolithic hostile force when people talk about Israel. I notice they become this dangerous, threatening, monolithic hostile force when people talk about Iran. I notice they become this dangerous, threatening, monolithic hostile force when people talk about Afghanistan. And I notice that the "Arab street" are only a bunch of peace-loving people who just want to go about their business when people talk about how much the American presence in Iraq has benefited them.
Curious indeed.
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quote:Originally posted by Cartman: The previous occupant's mass media didn't flood the papers/airwaves with every bad thing he did and every person he tormented.
It's almost as if the media deliberately WANT the Iraqis to think negatively about the current occupant, isn't it?
If you mean the western media, you betcha.
As for the "Eastern" Media, Al-Jazeera and such, well, they really don't care just as long as they can hate somebody in the west.
quote:Yeah, because CNN is the only western media network, right?
Merely the largest, most "respected" and most-watched television news network outside of the US.
quote: Nah, the abuse that went on at A-G wasn't really that bad, was it? And those few prisoners that were tortured, pffft, compared to what Saddam was capable of, they were LUCKY to be at the mercy of American soldiers, weren't they?
Considering that many of them, specifically those captured in action against US forces and not wearing any standardized uniform, the US would be well within their rights under the Geneva conventions to shoot on sight... perhaps so.
quote: I notice they become this dangerous, threatening, monolithic hostile force when people talk about Iran. I notice they become this dangerous, threatening, monolithic hostile force when people talk about Afghanistan.
That doesn't surprise me. You seem to notice a lot of things that aren't there.
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