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Shik
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Boy HOWdy, didn't we have fun the last time with the Prime Directive? I wonder if there's an overriding element in this one, too? Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not gonna say.

Since Monsieur de Minutiae is otherwise occupied by other elements, I've gone ahead with the next episode of YTA!. It's the Sobchak Sector & it's a doozy.


The map key, rules, & disclaimer:
  • Each sector is approximately 20 cubic ly. At warp nine, a starship will take approximately five days to traverse a side.
  • Each unnamed dot/circle represents a main-sequence star with little interesting about it unless noted. Some may be inhabited or habitable but are not one serious note.
  • Each planet is in a star system, and except where noted is class-M. Circle sizes are not relevant.
  • Blue circles denote major Federation-affiliated systems and installations.
  • Red circles denote major Klingon-affiliated systems and installations.
  • Yellow circles denote primary systems of interest.
  • Purple circles denote home systems of non-aligned governments.
  • The space in the adjoining sectors is essentially devoid of anything interesting or valuable. Borders extend in staight lines beyond that which is noted.
  • Unless noted, all inhabited planets are occupied by humanoid species with a variety of bumpy heads.

Timeline: 2275. That means that yes, you're still wearing those silly pajamas from TMP. But no more wrist communicators at least.



Sobchak Sector

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As you can see this is a complicated area. it is located somewhat "below" the normal galactic plane; Organia would be a bit above it, but a few sectors away. Federation space is in blue. Klingon space is red. the space of the Penxi Optimus, a non-aligned nation, is in purple. Dashed lines indicate the "hidden" borders. Notice how the spaces wrap around each other; there is overlap:
  • The red/purple area to the right is a border between the Klingons & the Penxi; from the map view angle, the Penxi are "in front."
  • The blue/purple area to the left center is a border between the Federation & the Penxi; from the map view angle, the Federation is "in front." Not the element that juts out.
  • The red/blue area to the top center is a border between the Klingons & the Federation; from the map view angle, the Federation is "in front."
  • The green area in the center is the Ul'Chek nebula, and overalps some small bit of space of all three territories.
As you can see, this is an area of heavy stellar population. There are three Klingon worlds of note: Rosek II, Voltok III, & Ke'GencH VII. The Oblerk Military Base also sits near your the border & the nebula.

Your office is aboard Deep Space Station K-10, situated near the Klingon border in free space. It serves as an administrative site for Federation policy, a starbase for fleet coordination, & acts as a major trade & transit point in the sector. There are five major Federation worlds in the sector:

Repka
  • Star type: Binary system, A3V (system primary), K6V
  • Number of planets: 6 planets, 30 dwarf planets
  • Classes (inner to outer orbits): N, M (3 small moons), L, asteroid belt, D, J, wide asteroid belt, J
  • Member world: Repka II
  • Population: 1.8 million
  • Government: Competency-based anarchy (the more you know & the better you do, the more widely regarded you are held)
  • Type: Industrial/agricultural colony
  • Notes: Originally an Earth colony founded 2182
Yvel
  • Star type: Binary system, F3V (system primary), white dwarf
  • Number of planets: 6 planets, 10 dwarf planets
  • Classes (inner to outer orbits): B, D, G, M, asteroid belt, Q, J
  • Member world: Yvel IV
  • Population: 4.1 billion
  • Government: Learned oligarchy (only the learned hold power; the more you know, the more power you have)
  • Type: Species homeworld
  • Notes: A well-known place of study for scholars of all fields

Ogul
  • Star type: Binary system, O1III, G4V (system primary)
  • Number of planets: 7 planets
  • Classes (inner to outer orbits): D, D, H, F, G, M, asteroid belt, T (81 moons)
  • Member world: Ogul VI
  • Population: 11.3 billion
  • Government: Participatory republic (the people vote directly--no rerpresentatives)
  • Type: Species homeworld
  • Notes: Ogul VII is a class-T ultragiant that is effectively a failed star. Of its 81 moons, 6 are class-M, 2 are class-L, & 12 are class-K. Most of these have been colonized lightly or greatly in some measure by the Ogul & by other Federation citizens. Many of the rockier class-D moons have been colonized much like Luna as well.
Espejo
  • Star type: Single system, G2V
  • Number of planets: 8 planets, 4 dwarf planets
  • Classes (inner to outer orbits): Y, E, N, O, M, K, J, J
  • Member world: Espejo V
  • Population: 5.3 billion
  • Government: Benevolent fascism
  • Type: Federation colony
  • Notes: Founded 2197. Espejo IV is a class-O pelagic world that has several oceanographic research stations in its seas.
Safko
  • Star type: Single system, B1Ib
  • Number of planets: 4 planets
  • Classes (inner to outer orbits): M, D, C, C
  • Member world: Safko I
  • Population: 985,000
  • Government: Theocratic democracy
  • Type: Dissident religious colony
  • Notes: Originally an Earth colony founded 2093. The outer worlds are a major source of minerals & heavy metals.
There is also a non-aligned state, the Penxi Optimus:
  • Number of inhabited star systems: 10
  • Population: 185.3 billion
  • Government: Despotic autocracy
  • Technology: Equivalent to Federation ca. 2225-2235
  • Defense: 4 heavy warships (Siegfried-class equivalent); 9 warships (Lancaster-class equivalent); 350 assorted smaller ships (frigates, destroyers, raider craft)
  • Notes: First contact in 2203 by USS Vilnius. Known for raiding parties into both Federation & Klingon space. Known refuge for Orion & other pirates, renegade Klingons, & other assorted galactic scum.
The Ul'Chek Nebula which sits in the center of the sector is kinda biggish & somewhat unknown. It's a fairly standard nebula causing midlevel sensor interference to ships that pass through it, which is why it's used as a smokescreen by pirates & raiders; pursuers find their quarry quite difficult to track. it is unknown if there are any stars of planets contained within; at the moment, it is being charted & surveyed by an Oberth-class research vessel, USS Nernst (NCC-893).

There is a small standing patrol force homeported at K-10 that makes its rounds in the sector. It is as follows:
  • USS India (NCC-1479), Lancaster-class
  • USS Skua (NCC-1396), Kestrel-class
  • USS Dazzler (NCC-1567) & USS Reporter (NCC-1787), Avenger-class
  • USS Buccaneer (NCC-1686) & USS Spanker (NCC-1842), Predator-class

    QUESTION ONE (four parts)

    • The yellow circle in the center of the map is Sobchak's Planet, a newly charted class-M world orbiting as the fourth world out from a relatively boring G1V star. It is unknown if the Organian Peace Treaty extends to this area of space, but to be certain, Sobchak's Planet has been placed under its auspice. That means both the Federation & the Klingons are going to be placing a colony on its surface. As per the treaty terms, whichever government's colony sufficiently develops well enough is awarded oversight of the whole system.

      As admiral for this sector, it is up to you to recommend the general elements of the Federation colony. What kind will it be: industrial? Agricultural? Mining? Residential? A combination of one or more? Will it be placed near the Klingons' site? Away from them? Explain the reasons for your choices.
    • Based on your decision on the type of colony to be founded, outline what you wish to request from Starfleet in terms of support. Will you need freighters for machinery or livestock? Transports for colonists? How many? Will you require escorts? If so, how many & of what type? (Please note that due to their need elsewhere, there are no Constitution-, Pyotr Velikiy-, or the 2 new Belknap-class large cruisers available.)
    • The survey vessel in the Ul'Chek Nebula has reported unusual sensor oddities as it probes deeper. There is no further explanation as the crew has none to report. It might be Klingons, it might be Penxi, it might be swap gas reflecting off the hull. Ruminate upon possible courses of action, but do NOT act upon them.
    • The reports of pircay from commercial craft both large & small are beginning to rise. How will you address it? Does it affect your plans from questions 1A & 1B; if so, how?

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    A moment to step out of character here. I realize that the TMP era is sketchy on shippy canon, so I've allowed for some leeway, even if most of it DOES irk my sense of sequential hull numbers. That being said, I will allow for ships from the following non-canon sources (class inclusions or exceptions as noted):
  • FJ Tech Manual: All except Federation
  • ASDB: Antares
  • TAS: Huron
  • Ships Of The Star Fleet: Any vessel commissioned between 2235 & 2275 with the aforementioned exception of Decatur & Belknap (which by my notes should be the only 2 in service at that time)
  • FASA: Any vessel commissioned between 2235 & 2275 . You will of course need to figure out the conversion dates yourself.
  • Starfleet Museum: Lancaster, Kestrel, Valley Forge, Avenger, Predator, Belleau Wood, Siegfried, Ocean, Giant, Constellation (his freighter, not the canon one), Starmaster, "small transport", Sahara. (I will also accept Pyotr Velikiy if the situation arises where one is needed. That situation is not here at the moment)

    If you use any non-canon ship, please include a link to it for those of us who are unaware of it--NO EXCEPTIONS. Also, whether any of these ships are refitted to movie-style standards is entirely up to you. They can be movie, they can be TOS, they can be mix & match. It's not a problem.


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    Oh my god... you want me to make sense of that map? [Eek!] And I'm not even referring to my usual artistic conversion!

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    Tch. It's not difficult. Just follow the lines. Part of your training, Cadet, is to think 3-dimensionally.

    Welcome to real world training.

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    Oh yeah, and the Lancaster got retired in 2264. Better make it a Valley Forge instead. (Ain't it a bitch when the guy who did the timeline reminds you of inconvenient facts? [Wink] )

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    I know it did. I'm fiddling & have my reasons, my renumbering of the classes for my own universe not withstanding. Shush.

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    == Q1A ==

    Considering the current time period, it seems that there's a grudging peace established between the Federation and the Klingon Empire. Each side periodically complains and blusters about various issues, and there may be a minor skirmish here and there, but there's no major flash points. Settlement issues, under the auspices of the Organian Peace Treaty (OPT) have helped the two antagonists avoid most major points of conflict. However, despite this peaceful interlude, we can't afford to let our guard down, because given the opportunity, the Klingons would very much love to take the offensive again.

    I'm going to base my responses heavily on Masao's version of TOS political history, specifically the events and causes of the Four Days' War from "Errand of Mercy" (I just love that name... I suggested it specifically to thumb my nose at the FASA timeline.) Therefore, the Federation's primary goal � in the past, anyway � has been to deny vital resources to the Klingons and to block potential avenues of expansion. Although it's possible that there's the potential for some kind of peaceful coexistence on Sobchak's Planet, the risk is far too great, for the moment, to give the Klingons too much breathing room.

    Therefore, the primary goal of colonization of Sobchak's will be for agricultural and settlement purposes. With a much greater population, the Federation can afford to move in larger numbers of people to lay claim to the planet, and with the focus on agriculture, establish a case for the Federation's greatest strengths: sustainable development. Some mining facilities will be established, but in an environmentally-neutral fashion that will leave as little impact as possible on the overall ecosphere.

    In contrast, the Klingons are most likely to see Sobchak's as a ball of resources waiting to be consumed as fast as possible. They'll move in some strip-mining operations, and probably what they would consider a large population, to try to play the numbers game. They'll lose in that, of course. But as a result, the Federation colony will be established as far away from the Klingon colony (if it's already been established) as possible. However, if the Klingons haven't set up shop yet, then we'll take the best fertile land that's also closest to the biggest mineral deposits.

    I should mention that I briefly considered planting my colony close to the Klingons instead, establishing a kind of dual settlement that could become one city (kinda like Minneapolis/St. Paul, for example). But then I thought about the joke that has become Nimbus III (NEVER ASK ABOUT NIMBUS III!), and I decided I know better.

    (IMPORTANT: I'm assuming that Sobchak's potential is roughly unremarkable, with equal capacity for agricultural or mining efforts. If there's few resources or less arable land, the colony plans will be adapted accordingly. Shik?)

    == Q1B ==

    For transports themselves, I imagine there'll be a steady stream of them coming and going. Starfleet's not asking me if I want any transports permanently assigned, are they? 'Cause if so, that's kinda pointless. I imagine that some ships will make regular round trips on a fixed route, but that's still not under my direct control. Depending on how modular and configurable they are, I imagine that we can have (once the colony gets going) a bunch of transports that bring in settlers and carry out finished produce. For the first year or two, only a couple of big ships would be needed, probably. As the colony grows, the demands will change. In terms of numbers, I figure that after the first few really big shipments in, most of the needs will be relatively small until the colony becomes sustainable. So I figure the ships'll be of the Giant class (for big stuff) and Starmaster class (for the little stuff like resupply and minor needs). Probably twice as many little ships as big ones.

    As for escorts... At the very least, there need to be some seriously heavy but clearly defensive assets attached to the Sobchak's colony. Considering that the Penxi Optimus (would their homeworld be Penxi Optimus Prime?) seem to be equivalent to the Barbary States of ancient Earth, there's plenty of justification for military assets there, regardless of the Klingon situation. The proximity to the nebula doesn't help, either. Therefore, a minimum of two squadrons of Penguin-class fighters (or their newer equivalents, if available) will be based on Sobchak's for defense. (Fighters aren't really useful for offense these days, since the advent of advanced deflector shields and more accurate energy-beam weapons.) An additional Predator or Kestrel destroyer would be needed for best results, as well, to complement the fighters. Also, a network of sensor buoys would need to be deployed between the colony and the outskirts of the nebula, to provide a kind of early-warning network.

    I don't think that there'll be a huge need for escorts inside Federation space itself, seeing how that's relatively secure. The standing patrol squadron would be shifted to cover the usual routes to and from the colony, as necessary. However, a Sahara tender would be handy to provide roving support for the patrol squadron, especially when they're running on and in the nebula, as a mobile resupply base. Also, in the interests of preparedness, an old Belleau Wood-class assault transport would make for an excellent ad hoc orbiting supply base near Sobchak's. It could function as a tender for the fighters (though not as well as a carrier, of course), but also work great for any potential combat operations that might be needed should hostilities flare up on the ground at Sobchak's.

    Since Shik's taking liberties with Masao's stuff, I'm gonna list my forces:
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    73rd Sector Patrol Squadron
    USS Los Angeles (NCC-1479, Valley Forge class)
    USS Skua (NCC-1443, Kestrel class)
    USS Dazzler (NCC-D120, Avenger class)
    USS Reporter (NCC-D159, Avenger class)
    USS Buccaneer (NCC-D218, Predator class)
    USS Spanker (NCC-D279, Predator class)

    I should register my concerns her about the paltry size of the local squadron... all of the ships are either close to retirement or due for a major refit. I seriously doubt that the squadron could effectively resist any likely Klingon incursion force, should one attack. Ideally, there should be at least a Miranda-class medium cruiser to provide some modern firepower in the case of a cavalry-style raid or a reconnaissance-in-force. And if the Penxi choose to make any real trouble, then they'll pretty much have the run of the whole damn sector with their 13 heavy combatants and 350 destroyer-types!

    Of course, part of my response depends on the kinds of defenses the five established worlds have in place. How did they fare during the Four Days' War, Shik? Can you provide any more detailed background on the Federation-Klingon conflict as it occurred in this sector, specifically?

    == Q1C ==

    Well, that's exactly what the Oberth is there to find... so I'd want them to look closer. Given the situation in the sector, I'd have to assume that it was some kind of patrol force sent by one of the local threat forces, so I'd want to send over one of my destroyer squadrons to take position at the nearest point, outside the nebula, to the scout's current position. This would solely be intended to provide cover if the scout stirs up a hornet's nest inside and needs to make a quick getaway.

    == Q1D ==

    If piracy starts increasing, I'd have to ask for some more destroyer-type vessels. Preferably, I'd want something a bit newer... that way, I could rotate my older destroyers out to fight the pirates (who probably are operating older machinery, though not necessarily) and keep the newer vessels for countering any fleet movements made by the Penxi or the Klingons. My first choice would be that destroyer kitbash from the DS9:TM, known in Bernd's files as the Constitution variant 1. For lack of a better idea, I'll reluctantly use the DITL's name, and call it the Polaris class. A minimum of two, preferably three.

    It'd help to sum up my requests, so here they are:
    • 1 Miranda-class medium cruisers
    • 2-3 Polaris-class destroyers
    • 1 Kestrel-class destroyer
    • 1 Sahara-class tender
    • 1 Belleau Wood-class assault transport
    And I guess that's all for now...

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    I'm assuming that Sobchak's potential is roughly unremarkable, with equal capacity for agricultural or mining efforts. If there's few resources or less arable land, the colony plans will be adapted accordingly.

    Yes, that's perfectly feasible. Also, there have been no colonies planted as of yet on either side. the world is still uninhabited.

    Of course, part of my response depends on the kinds of defenses the five established worlds have in place. How did they fare during the Four Days' War, Shik? Can you provide any more detailed background on the Federation-Klingon conflict as it occurred in this sector, specifically?

    Ships came in. Ships faced each other. Ships got hot. Ships went home. The end.

    And now, the smackdown:
    Since Shik's taking liberties with Masao's stuff, I'm gonna list my forces:
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    73rd Sector Patrol Squadron
    USS Los Angeles (NCC-1479, Valley Forge class)
    USS Skua (NCC-1443, Kestrel class)
    USS Dazzler (NCC-D120, Avenger class)
    USS Reporter (NCC-D159, Avenger class)
    USS Buccaneer (NCC-D218, Predator class)
    USS Spanker (NCC-D279, Predator class)


    Uhhh...NO. The Lancaster stays. We're using the technology & equipment from Masao here, not the timeline. Don't complain.

    Therefore, a minimum of two squadrons of Penguin-class fighters (or their newer equivalents, if available) will be based on Sobchak's for defense. (Fighters aren't really useful for offense these days, since the advent of advanced deflector shields and more accurate energy-beam weapons.)

    Again, no. I did not specify fighters for a reason: there are none. That's why I never mentioned Al-Burak or Swordfish in the list at the end. There's a reason why I built the way I did. Your fiddling fucks things up. Don't do it. Dong le ma?

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    Psst... the whole point of YtA! is to allow for individual responses and interpretations of the Trek universe. That includes various responses for the different types of ships and possibilities in technology.

    I'll switch back to the Lancaster, I guess, but I'm keeping the fighters. [Razz] Seriously, fighters are an established part of Trek combat, even back in TOS. Remember "Journey to Babel," and the tiny (dare I say fighter-sized?) Orion raider? If the Penxi have 350 friggin' ships in their fleet, then that's gotta include a few fighters. It would be stupidly short-sighted to not prepare to counter that potential threat.

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    Tch. Fine. Keep your VFE.

    Throw MY calculations off, will you?? Gonna be fighting a elder god soon..!

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    Also, can you answer my question about the planetary defenses? That's kinda needed in case the Klingons or the Penxi decide to launch a cavalry raid...

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    Apologies. Sort of glossed over that. Um...hm. Well, they're the major Fed worlds in the sector (which is why they were singled out), so they're going to have good defenses but nothing on the level of the core worlds, not as heavily defended as Earth or Andor & such.

    So...figure they're important to the sector & of medium importance to the Federation as a whole. Repka & Ogul would be more so, because they're sort of the Deneva & Beta Rigel of the area, respectively. Safko would probably be more passively defended due to the "we'll be saved by God" nature of the planetary society. Espejo's society would probably go "YES, WE WILL DEFEND OURSELVES!!" & have some nice setup, while Yvel...well, who knows. Scholars are notorious for being absent-minded & procrastinative.

    The exact nature I will leave to the player's discretion.

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    quote:
    Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
    Also, can you answer my question about the planetary defenses? That's kinda needed in case the Klingons or the Penxi decide to launch a cavalry raid...

    I can see it now....James Ewell Brown Stovacor....General of the Klingon Cavalry.

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    Station Log, Stardate 7706.8. Admiral Herb Shrump reporting:

    I have arrived at Starbase K10, located in the heart of the Sobchak Sector. The staff has made me feel welcome, and I look forward to assuming my new post. My primary duty as Admiral of this sector is oversight of the new Federation colony on Sobchak Prime. Under the terms of the Organian Peace Treaty, this planet is shared with the Klingons, with the goal of seeing which government can develop the planet the best. I intend the Federation to be that government.

    After careful consideration, I�ve decided recommend locating the colony on the opposite continent, as far away from the Klingon settlement as possible. This is purely a military decision. If the Klingons decide to mount a raid, attack or perform any type of harassment, I want to see them coming. Placing our colony on the opposite continent will insure that any accidental intrusions not take place.

    Additonally, I would strongly encourage a standard satellite/sensor net in orbit of the planet. You know the Klingons will have one. They spy on us, we spy on them... Further, one squardon of fighters based on Sobchak is not out of the question either.

    As for the type of colony, I would recommend primarily an agricultural colony with modest mining and industrial capabilities. With the need for foodstuffs growing at an alarming rate, and with K10 being a busy trading point, the new colony will be able to easily export foodstuffs to various ports of call. Further, a modest mining and industrial base will help the colony become self-sufficient, in case of any potential piracy or blockades by the Klingons.

    Based on this decision, I am requesting from Stafleet the dispatching of the following starships to help establish the colony.

    Three Huron Class freighters for transporting of foods/livestock between Sobchak and K10.
    Three Antares Class freighters for transporting of foods/livestock between Sobchak and K10.
    Two Starmaster transports for colonists/personnel
    One Ocean transport for colonists/personnel
    One Ptolemy Class Tug/Transport
    One Battle Pod for the Tug (Battle Pod has 4 phasers and 4 photon launchers (URL of tug with Battle Pod: http://www.caddocourt.com/sfb/ssd/fedbtl.gif
    Two Mark II and Two Mark V cargo pods

    Two of the new Miranda Class starships
    Six Kestral Class light cruisers for convoy escort duty.
    One Penguin Class fighter squadron

    A survey vessel in the Ul�Chek nebula has detected unusual readings emanating from the nebula. Our knowledge of this nebula is scant. It could be anything from a natural occurrence, a fluctuation in a dynoscanner, or Klingons meddling in our backyard. Right now it�s a minor point. I would recommend the survey vessel continue exploring the nebula. Additionally, I would reccomend shifting the patrol patterns so that a couple of our home based starships, perhaps the India and the Dazzler could help scan the nebula as part of their regular patrol.

    Piracy has become an increasing problem. With a sector this large, Klingons this close and a nice nebula to provide cover, the vermin have found plenty of opportunities to plunder the innocents. My hope is that the addition of more Kestral Class cruisers and a Miranda or two will help stem this growing tide. Regardless of Starfleet�s reaction to adjusting the patrol patterns along the nebula, I would feel comfortable shifting them myself, or adding a couple of standing patrols along this region in order to ferret out any troublemakers.

    End log.

    Note: How long will we have between questions? I am leaving for an extened weekend this Friday and won't have computer access until Tuesday or Wednesday of next week.

    [ August 29, 2006, 06:35 PM: Message edited by: HerbShrump ]

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    You should be OK, Herb. I tend to leave long lead times.

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    Not as long as Mark, though. [Razz]

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