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The number of Lost warbirds is unknown but in a fight a Galaxy Can destroy it but only by using superiour tactics for example if a Galaxy class ship found some way to make the warbirds Artificial Quantum Singularity Drive unstable there for knocking out power to the entire ship.
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I didn't read your artical on the Warbird, since this was just a quick post... I was watching Tin Man last night - brilliant episode - anyway you see that first warbird fly over the E-D and fire on it - Not THAT much bigger... also they were 'scared' of Galaxy class ships in "The Face of the Enemy" and there were reports that the D'Deridex class was a 'B' type vessel - presuming there is a better 'A' version - which I am willing to assume is the Warbird seen in "The Neutral Zone" - which was ONE HUGE SHIP! and was supposed to be according to Andy Probert I think...
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Andrew Probert intended the ship to be 4400ft (1341m) long. That is consistent with Data's comment in "The Neutral Zone" where he says the Romulan vessel is "at least twice the length of the Enterprise". Unfortunately the Warbird has at times appeared much smaller (but not always).
I tend to assume that the A-type Warbirds are the ones that were mentioned in "Yesterday's Enterprise" (and were completely different) and the B-type was first seen by the Federation in "TNZ".
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Yesterday's Enterprise!?! You mean the A types - from 20+ years earlier... I'm sure they would have upgraded since then...
You look at nearly every episode since TNZ - the Warbirds have been just a little over the length over the Galaxy class... I reckon the Romulans - in their first contact with the federation in 20+ years in TNZ - would want to send their biggest ship to scare The Federation...
Andrew
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So you're suggesting that there's two different types of Warbird that are externally identical (filmed from the same miniature) yet have different scales? I see...
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have any of you read "The Romulan Prize" ? They introduced the D'Kazzanak Class , which is about 2000 meters long and dwarfs the Galaxy and D'Deredix Class maybe that D'K is the Type Larger Version , I have a Pic of it from the cover of The Book "The Romulan Prize"
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Yeah, Dax they did it with the BoP - and its a very Romulan thing to do... maybe the one and only "giant warbird" we saw in TNZ - the one to show off the Romulan Star Empire - and to frighten the Federation - was a flawed design - so they scaled them down...
I would speculate that the Warbirds seen in such episodes as "Tin Man" "The Pegasus" and "Face of the Enemy" are on par with Nebula/Akira/Excelsior refits (refit to present day tech)
The Galaxies are probably a match or a bit under the TNZ Warbirds...
it sorta make sense since when there Was a Romulan buildup I think the supposed one in "The Defector" and the alternate one in "All Good Things..." The Federation sent Nebulas and Excelsiors to deal with the situation...
can anyone capture us a pic from "The Defector" when the Enterprise and Romulans are surrounded by the Klingon ships...
Also some captures from Tin Man would be nice... when the first Warbird buzzes the E-D.
Thanks
Andrew
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Because the Federation is not totally dedicated to its war machine and builds at least dozens of different ship classes.
That new Romulan ship on the book cover looks a heck of a lot loke the D'Deridex class. Was the new class supposed to look different or just be bigger?
And why is it that every artist who does a TNG piece thinks he has to use that same old picture of Picard witht he little grin on his face?
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Yeah its supposed to look the same they explained it in the book as an entimidation thing , its basicly a cost saving method that way they dont have to make any new Romulan models just pose the old one next to a smaller Enterprise thus creating a Mammoth Warbird.
But now that we have CGI the ships are going to very more.
As for Picards Pic , I have no idea :-)
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Just remember guys size isn't everything. Take for example a modern guided missile destroyer and a WW2 battleship. One is far larger, but the technological advancements and power of the destroyer will ensure that it is victorius every time.
I had a comparison chart of the warbird and galaxy awhile back (deleted along with all my other stuff in a pc F* up) which basically indicates that the size factor is, in terms of power irrelevant.
Why do the Romulans have so many Warbirds? I'd say it's an inefficient building practice. But, they are probably easire to build than Federation starships, as most of the surface area is just a hull. In contrast Federation ships are not hollow in the middle.
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Yes, why does everyone assume size means power? I mean, look at the Kazon motherships... those things are nearly twice the size of a Warbird (the 1200 m. version) and yet one got its b*tt kicked in Basics by the tiny Voyager (somewhat contradictionary since it was the other way around in Caretaker)
Also, examine the Warbird's design: two huge wings (but relatively thin) and a heck of a lot emptiness in between. So there is probably not more internal space overall available then there is on a Galaxy/Sovereign. The forward section seems to be devoted to crew quarters and the bridge, and there is only one (or two) disruptor mounted there (the forward firing pulse thing or the continuous green-phaser like thing). Thus, even though the WB is BIG, it is not a very efficient design at all. Now if it was shaped like an Imperial Star Destroyer... (oops, wrong universe ) but in its current form any Galaxy or even Akira should be able to take it on.
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) but in its current form any Galaxy or even Akira should be able to take it on.
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