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Malnurtured Snay
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Well, it is in Yesterday's Enterprise, anyway. Watched the episode today, and when Yar and Castille leave 10-Forward, Tasha is telling him about the ship's weapons, troop carrying ability ... and that she was the first of the Galaxy-Class starships.

I guess Starfleet decided to rename the USS Galaxy as the Enterprise for whatever reason. Unless I'm wrong, in "our" universe, the Galaxy and the Yamato were both launched prior to the Enterprise.

(Mind you, I'm not saying that "our" Enterprise-D was really the Galaxy, but in the alt-universe of "Yesterday's Enterprise", the Enterprise was the Galaxy.)

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I think the alternate Tasha said the E-D was the first Galaxy class ship built as a warship. The alternate Galaxy and Yamato could have been built as exploratory ships. Of course that wouldn't make sense since the alternate Riker said they were in need of ships.

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Galaxy and Yamato may have been destroyed near completation at an attack on Utopia Planitia, and therefore they didn't feel like changing the class name.

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Ya know, in the modren navy it isn't all that uncommon for the lead ship of the class to be launched after the second or third ship started, I am very fermilar with one case, the USS Ohio SSBN-726, and USS Michigan SSBN-727, both are Ohio class submarines, because the lead ship, Ohio was projected to launch after the Michigan, they simply swapped names and numbers, so that the Ohio would launch first. This switching doesn't always happen though so it is concevible that, despite what it says in the NG techmanual that Enterprise did launch before the Galaxy did.


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It's possible Tasha meant that the Enterprise was the first production Galaxy-class ship built. Meaning that she was the first one after the USS Galaxy prototype.

In fact, there's nothing in canon that contradicts that this isn't true for the normal universe too. All it takes is for one to ignore the TNG Tech Manual.

Now that I think about it, it's possible that all the Enterprise's were the first production vessel built of their respective classes. Except for the Ent-A of course.

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I noticed that little blurb too and it always sort of bothered me. But these are good explanations. No doubt, with the war going on, the production history of the Galaxy class varied quite a bit from our reality.

Though "The Nitpicker's Guide to Star Trek TNG" brought up the very good point that, with the war on, the senior staff would not still be together, and the Galaxy Class would probably look alot more like the Defiant.

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Maybe she meant "one of the first?"

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I just thought it was an interesting tidbit

My own theory is that the Class remained the Galaxy, and that the Galaxy was renamed the Enterprise to boost spirits.

And she clearly said that the Enterprise was the first of her class.

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Maybe in the alternate timeline - the E-D isn't a Galaxy class starship...

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That might work.

Except ...

Yar: "She was the first Galaxy-Class warship built by the Federation. 42 decks, capable of transporting 4,000 troops.

Castille: "How long have you been onboard?"

Yar: "Four years. Straight out of the Academy. I was lucky to get the Enterprise."

Castille: "Me too. I mean, my Enterprise."

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I would they need a ship that large? If you needed a ship to cawrry troops and have massive fire power, it could be smaller perhaps the size of the Excelsior or Ambassador classes. 5,000,000 million tons of ship is too much for just a heavily armed troop carrier. I bet Starfleet could have won it if they built smaller ships like the Sabre and perhaps a alternate version of the Defiant in some form of another.

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Just 4000 troops? Seems kinda low for me
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Well, I betcha that 4000 troops is what she could carry comfortably, with full gear and support systems, without having to sit in a drydock being modified for it. I believe the TNG manual estimates the E-D could transport 15,000 people at a time if need be.

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For a ship that is about 8 times larger than the E-A, that seems a little small. The aricraft carrier Enterprise I think can hold up to 5,000 people average. Though I think now it is 3,000, that and 80 planes and parts. So assuming that, I would take a guess of about 20,000-30,000 people if stacked in bunks and personal belongings to a minium.

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Well, but if you think that the alternate Enterprise might also carry large training areas for phaser practice, etc (really super big holodecks), a much larger sickbay to handle casualties, drop ships, and a LOT more transporter rooms ...

The crew complement might also be quite a bit larger. Ten-Forward was PACKED. The corridors were PACKED. Every room aboard the ship was PACKED with people.

"Our" Enterprise-D has a crew of ... what? 600? With 400 some civilians or whatnot aboard?

"That" Enterprise-D could have a crew of twenty-five hundred or so.

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