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I like the U.S.S. Yamato, NCC-1305-E. I don't think Nagilum made a mistake, I think that was the registry number. Otherwise, Data would have quickly pointed out that Riker should NOT beam over to that ship that was supposed to be NCC-71something. How come it is so unbelievable that another ship had a history that allowed it to be honored with a reserved registry. The Voyager crew also didn't raise eyebrows when they saw the Dauntless NX-01-A. They saw it, remembered that the first starship converted over to Starfleet service was the U.S.S. Dauntless and was registered as NCC-01, and figured Starfleet was being nice. I think that Starfleet obviously considers this a possiblility when they have a second starship to bear the name, but tries to limit the number of times it happens, maybe to a dozen or so in their history. I dont buy the Enterprise as the only starship that ever managed to have adventures.
Even though I hate reading fan pages where every single ship has a B suffix, because those people really dont have any clue how the system works, but i think i makes sense there could be a few more variants that occured along the way.
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If anything, NCC-1305-E should be considered the "correct" registry because it was spoken in dialogue, while the other registry was just seen on a computer screen. Dialogue should, IMHO, take precedence over b.g. data.
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I know.. Captain Varley was captain of the starship Yamato 1305-D, He stole his ship from spacedock to go back and save his first officer from aliens. He destroyed his ship after evacuating the crew to destroy a Ferengi salvage party.. On the way home in a captured Ferengi Marauder, he stopped a huge alien probe from destroying Alpha centauri. In honor the Federation council took a new Galaxy-class ship, the Yorktown NCC-71807 and had it repainted as the Yamato NCC-1305-E.
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I just figured out how to solve EVERY inconsistency ever seen in all the Star Trek series...
Wait for it.
We've been watching subtely different universes each time and have never realized it.
::sits back and relishes the greatest insight since Hubble's expanding universe::
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Crisis on Infinite Treks.. if they let me write it i could reconcile al Trek continuities into one canon.. but then the status quo would continue, with lots of good novels coming out and lots of bad tv shows being made contradicting what i have reconciled. its because the studio people are pompous and refuse to acknowledge anyone understands star trek but them, as they change it into something its not by making it a poorly written T&A special FX nightmare meanwhile the novel people are creating great stories, only to have them trashed by the studio people who say..'that didnt happen, and im so upset about you thinking you could use your license to publish under the name star trek, and actually writing star trek that doesnt reflect what i am trying to warp it into that i will call you, the swear of swears, non canon!'
wow i feel better now
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quote:Originally posted by TSN: Quod erat demonstrandum.
Erm . . . say what?
As for the registry: NCC-1305-E sounds fine, but maybe they put the 7**** registry number in to make it look like Starfleet was a bit bigger than people originally thought and that having another ship with a letter in the reg was a bit too simple, unoriginal and similar to NCC-1701-D?
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Thats definitely the reason. The episode's writer was unfamiliar with the numbering system (apparently they dont teach okudagrams in writing classes!) so he made up a number similar to the 1701-D's for its sister ship. The art department ordered it changed, but calmed down when the scene was deleted from the script. Last minute, the scene was added back in, before any of those officious nits had a chance to say anything and it was filmed and aired with riker saying 1305-E. It works just fine like i explained it, except those guys couldnt take being wrong, and since they write the encyclopediae, just list the other registry anyway. They even got a chance to contradict it onscreen when the Yamato appeared again in 'Contagion' they blew up a model labed 7something and put it on one of their nifty graphics. Except they cant go back and change the dialogue, which is more telling than their tiny little art on the hull and the screen.
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The only ship with the letter numbering system is the Enterprise. The Yamato's registry in "Where Silence Has Lease" was a mistake, and the USS Nash is also a screwed up vessel. Who'd rather have the sissy 1305-E instead of 71807? Except for Picard and company...
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But its what they said.. in the episode.. *sighs*
Nobody has said that that only has to apply to the Enterprise, and Riker's line of dialogue proves it doesnt.
I'm not sure how to determine the superiority of a registry number.. it never struck me as sissy before.. although ive always wondered about NCC-3801 or NCC-2097.. man whats up with them?!
I agree the Nash is a retarded little piece of modelmaking. Space travelers need to learn right side up! (OK that was sarcasm, but i mean what i said about the Nash)
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There were five of them.. thats all.. People dont hail the Enterprise-E demanding to know where the other five Enterprises went, so i dont get this question.
Maybe one of them had a big gun on the front. Or got destroyed in the Tzenkethi war.. or the Tarn conflicts or the Talarian war or the first Cardassian war.. or the Kzin incursions.. or was assaulted by the Chakuun.. its a big galaxy
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"They even got a chance to contradict it onscreen when the Yamato appeared again in 'Contagion' they blew up a model labed 7something and put it on one of their nifty graphics."
Apparently, the saucer model for Contagion had already been built and filmed by the time Okuda or anyone found out about the "Where Silence has Least" mistake.
"but then the status quo would continue, with lots of good novels coming out and lots of bad tv shows being made contradicting what i have reconciled."
I'd love to read the novels in your parallel universe someday.
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