After reading posts for sometime now (but I couldn't make it through all 50-odd pages), I was wondering if you could answer some questions that I might have, concerning the Enterprise-C and Ambassador class vessels in general.
Firstly, does anyone have any stills, etc. of the Enterprise-C bridge as seen in Yesterday's Enterprise? I have the diagram issued out in the Star Trek magazine, but what I'm really looking for is the LCARS design used on the computer panels and the coloring.
Also, I'm wondering if any of you have ideas about how an engine room on a vessel of that class would be layed out.
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Well, there's nothing canon on this so anythign anyone would say is going to be totally made up. The bridge in "YE" seemed to have a more TMP style look to it. I believe the coloring of the LCARS and what not harkened back to the Ents. A and B.
The whole ship seems to have an art deco feel so I'd take that into consideration when thinking about room design. You're probably not going to find the plushly carpeted, well lit rooms like you do an a Galaxy Class. I'd say metal deck plating with carpet here and there.
But like I said, there's absolutely nothign official on this area of that ship.
She doesn't have any of the characteristics I associate with art deco. I mean, the grill of the neck could be on anything from deco to moderne. None of the lines or detailing on the rest of the ship suggest deco to me. No spirals, no zigzags, no sweeping curves. The D is more deco than the C...and even she ain't really there either.
You want deco...watch Flash Gordon from 1980...THAT'S wall to wall deco.
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By Art Deco, I mean the use of circles and blockier solid shapes. The Ent D is more Art Noveau...lots of curves and stuff...obviously the ships aren't going to fit either classification perfectly...
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I think the Enterprise-Cs engine room has a high cieling for most of the dec, with an open area in the middle where the warp reactor core is, fed by matter and antimatter injectors from above and below. Electro plasma conduits run backwards from it into the distance, one to each nacelle. a protective railing keeps you from falling down that shaft, and there are ladders around it to scale up to various point around the injectors. The is probably a Master Situation Display and maybe even a large table with displays in the work area. perhaps a catwalk around the warp core on upper and lower decks. Also there is probably a chief engineers office/work area and an entrance to the jefferies tube system.
But seriously, its not gonna be too different from the 1701-A or 1701-D because they both used the same engine room in the movies, so a transition between them would look exactly like them. Except with different carpeting and lighting of course
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Well, the Enterprise-A only had the doughnut-like warp core in ST VI, not in ST V.
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for Ambassador pictures, go here http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ambassador.htm . As for the computer system, I THINK that the Enterorise C used a touch computer system similar to the system onboard the Enterprise A in ST6:TUC.
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Because the Enterprise-A's warp core wasnt shown in Star Trek V. They couldnt even afford to show Shatner's rock monsters on that budget. So the only time weve seen the 1701A's reactor was in STVI, unless you think they changed it between movies because they *would have* used a different warp core, but didnt
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Well, considering the ST IV, V, and VI bridges, it's not an unreasonable assumption.
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Actually, we did see the engine room in The Final Frontier. Well, we did kind of. We got a shot a curved doorway with Scotty inside the doorway standing at a pedestal station with a purplish light glowing on him and the wall. I can't remember exactly where it was, but it was definitely in the first half.
The Enterprise-A had some major reconstructive surgery performed on her. Other than a new bridge module being snapped on, the corridors got a major overhaul as well. They weren't just blatantly the Enterprise-D corridor sets. I can't remember, but didn't the transporter room also have some cosmetic changes between The Final Frontier and The Undiscovered Country? I know both featured the Enterprise-D set, but I want to say that they differed a bit.
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I believe (but am not sure) that the ST5 transporter room had a freestanding control console, whereas for ST6, a control booth in the TMP stype was built. Perhaps Scotty hadn't had the time to re-erect a booth for the mission in ST5, after stowing it away for some repairs?
Other than that, I'd speculate that the difference between ST5 and ST6 interiors was simply due to somebody getting fed up with all the decorative panels and carpets blocking service access to the ailing components, and ripped them all off, revealing the original bulkheads (which were of very similar styles in ST2-3 and ST6, actually).
Or then the carpeting was only there on the corridors reserved for VIP use - including the observation lounge with the subspace transmitter, and, for some weird reason, the corridors outside the brig. The rest of the ship might have looked like it did in ST6.
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Back to the subject... Yeah, the E-C computer graphics were deliberately made to look like the E-A and Excelsior ones. Some other period starships, like USS Hathaway and the E-B, shared that basic style (too bad it wasn't invented yet when the Stargazer was shown in "The Battle"). What little we saw of the Bozeman seemed to be in this style, too.
The engineering area of an Ambassador class ship has perhaps never been seen, but it has been described in the "New Frontier" novels which used to rotate around an Ambassador (although a putative post-Wolf 359 refit specimen). Now that ship is dust and the hero is flying around in a Galaxy class vessel, though, so the "New Frontier" comics are unlikely to show us how the room would have looked like. The single comic out so far, "Double Time", showed us a transporter room and a bridge done tastefully in E-C style yet with suitable alterations to reflect the refit and the fact that one of the characters would have objected to having stairs on the bridge...
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