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o2
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ok, we have the Star Trek TVH on Blu Ray now for a few month and I wonder what kind of information could have been collected so far:

First of all, we could really see the registry of the USS Saratogo in TVH (compare this http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tvhhd/tvhhd0212.jpg to this http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tvh/ch3/tvh0112.jpg ). Since the number was known before, this is not realy a leap foreward. The name is not legible either, since the proper section on the warp nacelle is a little bit over-exposed.

I had high hopes that we also could spot the registry of the Oberth class spaceship in spacedock at the end of the movie, but as you can see here http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tvhhd/tvhhd2249.jpg , the number is - at least to my eyes - still not legible.

There is also no way to identify the Miranda class starship in spacedock when the probe arrives at Earth http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/tvhhd/tvhhd0293.jpg . The angle for the reg on the warp nacelle is to steep and - for some reason - there is no registry under the impulse drive.

Conclusion: We have now the picture in HD, but no more information then before.

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HD can only go so far as the original film will allow and it's likely the information simply isn't there. The best bet for increased clarity would be if they rescanned the negatives of the original miniature footage and digitally re-composited it into the plates, even then you're always going to be limited by the innate quality of the film and the photochemical processes of the day.

The clearer caps of the Grissom in TSFS were handy though, I've yet to finish off those schematics.

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Nim
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Your links art broken, o2.
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quote:
Originally posted by Nim:
Your links art broken, o2.

The URLs are correct, but the server prohibits deep links to the pictures. Don't know how to fix this...
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quote:
Originally posted by Reverend:
HD can only go so far as the original film will allow and it's likely the information simply isn't there.

Yes, sure, but since I don't have access to the original negatives I have to investigate the material I have access to.

In case of the reg for the Oberth: There is definetly something there, though still not legiable. And so we are waiting for the digitaly remastered version of ST TVH and hope for the best...

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Ah, it works when going to http://movies.trekcore.com, gets you the whole menu. Good one, oxygen.
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So is the Saratoga NCC-1867 or NCC-1937? I still can't tell. Various editions of the Encyclopedia have used either or both. 1867 would be just one digit changed from the previous labeling (Reliant) but then again 1937 is only one digit away from the next (Lantree).
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more like 1887... when did TVH come out? that hull number might be a in-joke..?

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The middle two digits aren't the same, it's just difficult to tell what either of them are.
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For the sake of clarity (and perhaps in the interests of link longevity), I have reposted the images o2 attempted to link above:

The USS Saratoga (tvhhd0212.jpg) which compares rather favorably to The Saratoga in SD (tvh0112.jpg)

The Oberth class in Spacedock towards the end of the movie (tvhhd0293.jpg)

The Miranda class in spacedock when the probe arrives at earth (tvhhd0293.jpg)

In conclusion, HD is awesome and these movies look beautiful, but may not give we happy few ship nerds as much new information as we'd dreamt.

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I find it humorous that you made a post "for the sake of clarity" wherein only one out of four links leads to the picture its caption matches.

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Originally posted by bX:
For the sake of clarity (and perhaps in the interests of link longevity), I have reposted the images o2 attempted to link above:

The USS Saratoga (tvhhd0212.jpg) which compares rather favorably to The Saratoga in SD (tvh0112.jpg) !!!

The Oberth class in Spacedock towards the end of the movie (tvhhd0293.jpg) !!!

The Miranda class in spacedock when the probe arrives at earth (tvhhd0293.jpg)!!!

In conclusion, HD is awesome and these movies look beautiful, but may not give we happy few ship nerds as much new information as we'd dreamt.


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D'oh!!!! I hate it when I do it backwards! (thanks for letting me know, Mim...) This should work better:

quote:
Originally posted by bX:
For the entirely ironic sake of clarity (and perhaps in the interests of link longevity), I have reposted the images o2 attempted to link above:

The USS Saratoga (tvh0212.jpg) which compares rather favorably to The Saratoga in SD (tvh0112.jpg)

The Miranda class in spacedock when the probe arrives at earth (tvhhd0293.jpg)

The Oberth class in Spacedock towards the end of the movie (tvhhd2249.jpg)

In conclusion, HD is awesome and these movies look beautiful, but may not give we happy few ship nerds as much new information as we'd dreamt.

(Don't know if the moderators were interested in doing their thing here. I've got no problem facing the completely embarrassing fact that I've done more to obfuscate than to improve the original links, but in the interests of the topic at hand, it might be best to deactivate or reassign the links per the above.)
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Believe me, it's happened to me before. I just thought it was funny. [Razz]
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