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Albertus
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Hi to all. [Smile]

I am new to the board and this is my first post.

I am very interested in the technical side of Trek and found a lot of the threads here to be very interesting.

I am, at the moment, interviewing Ed Whitefire. He created the original Enterprise-D blueprints and worked closely with Andrew Probert, Rich Sternbach and Mike Okuda. They were never published due to licence problems with the publishing house. But, the Blueprints that were published draw very heavily on Ed's original work.

I was wondering if anyone would be interested in my posting the interview here?

Regards

Albertus

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Sure! And, what's more, it sounds like it would be a cool addition to this page if you contacted the sitemaster.

Welcome aboard!

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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Unless, of course, they are the same plans.
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Albertus
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Hi MMoM, I have already contacted Phil Broad, the owner of the Cloudster site, and the interview is available to him if he wants to host it. I found Ed's plans on his site, through the Flare site, that's what started it all. [Razz]

And yes, HerbShrump, they are the same blueprints. [Smile]

The reason I asked about posting the interview here was to complete the circle. But more than that, I felt that Ed had been done an injustice. A great deal of the published plans are indistinguisable from the Whitefire blueprints, but Ed was given no recognition for his originating them or for contributing to the TV series in any way, shape or form. This just seemed wrong.

So I decided to try to redress the balance.

I was surprised that I had never heard of Ed Whitefire or his plans. I am a keen Trek scratchbuilder and spend a lot of time looking for reference material, when I came across Ed's work, it was like a bolt from the blue, like getting a look at the original Franz Joseph plans.

I guess, to some extent, I am on a crusade to get his work and contribution to Trek acknowledged, for this, I make no appologies. [Smile]

[Big Grin]

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Never heard of him or his plans. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen blueprints of a Galaxy that weren't the Sternbach ones.

When were these blueprints done? Wasn't the Ent-D MSD (which looks quite different) already established early on in the series?

Look at these shuttles. The transport shuttle + warp sled looks surprisingly similar to a Danube-class runabout!

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Not sure about the MSD, but these plans were created in the first few seasons of TNG, as evidenced by the lack of a Type 6 shuttlecraft. The text on Phil's site plus other stuff I remember hearing confirms that.

B.J.

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quote:
Originally posted by HerbShrump:
Unless, of course, they are the same plans.

I meant the interview. DUH!
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Albertus
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The interview is entirely new and posted on this forum. [Smile]

[Smile]

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Welcome to the 24th century.

[Razz]

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Duh... my bad.
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Albertus
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Thanks for the welcome Bones. [Smile]

Harry, I had never heard of the plans either, so it came as a shock find out that Ed's blueprints existed.

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Those Blueprints are really cool. Infact I think I might like them better than Sternbach's - problem with his is... a lot of decks seem to be the same - and with not much for the thousand or so people to do on board. I like the idea of the 'mall' - i'm guessing a smaller version on the promenade. the 'town squares' and 'circles' - cause the ship is so large and everyone is packed in - I'm sure there are 'neighbourhoods' that start up.

Etc. Etc. I really don't think Ten-Forward is the only 'leisure' centre on board. Just thinking about it - one could say "oh but after seven years you'd think you'd see or here about such areas of the ship". Well maybe one could think about the show as being on a big starship that focuses on the goings on of it's Starfleet crew etc - not on the everyday population.

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One thing that always bothered me about the Enterprise-D was the vast numbers of non-essential crew aboard. Given how often the ship was menaced by Klingons, Romulans, Borg, superbeings of the week, alien virus, temporal paradoxes, etc., you would think that Starfleet would declare that it was simply a bad idea to put families with children aboard. Why should a ship that would be at the frontlines in the event of war waste valuable space and resources on people who are more of a liability than an asset?

It does seem that sometime after TNG Starfleet came to its senses, as evidenced by Voyager's and the Enterprise-E's smaller crews consisting only of Starfleet crew memembers.

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Zefram, Hi

I believe Roddenberry's thinking on the inclusion of families and such, was that the E-D was on a 30-year-mission not a 5 year one as seen in TOS.

To expect people to be away from family and loved ones for such a long time just seemed unreasonable. [Smile]

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Given the danger associated with space exploration and the apparently high probability of death for the average Starfleet officer, I doubt any crewmembers would survive a thirty year tour.

I understand Roddenberry's reasoning, since as a pacifist he wanted Federation starships to be ships of peace and thus appropriate places for families. The changes made to the Star Trek universe after Roddenberry's death sure changed that, though.

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