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Starship Freak
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Ok, I´m a starship fan, and I´ve followed the analysis of various starship-scenes you guys have done here such as the Wolf 359 battle wreckage-scene, the Qualor II surplus depot ships and the Abbadon´s repository of lost treasures-ships, all of which had many obscure ships.
But I´ve yet to see an analysis of the Utopia Planitia Yard-scene in "Relativity". Are all the ships really accounted for? Do we know for sure which ship-classes are in the various drydocks?

I´d like to see some large screencaps, say 1500x or so if anyone here can provide them. I´ve looked everywhere, trekcore obviously, but found nothing so large that also have all the ships. Most sites have perhaps one or two small caps, say 768x, I´d like many more pics and large as well for all the detail.

Can anyone please help?
(ps -- double post over at TrekBBS as well, you never know..)

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There was an almost identical image as the establishing shot of the yards in one of the SotL calendars. As far as I remember, the classes were the usual suspects and pretty much all of them were identifiable. It's got to be online somewhere.

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It was the first SOTL calander- the centerfold.
Too bad it shows the Enterprise D alongside the Akira and oversized, low-res Steamrunners and Sabres in the background.
Pretty though.

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Daniel Butler
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1500x? As in 1500 pixels by some other number of pixels? I don't think Trek was ever broadcast at that resolution...
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Ok, as I said in my post Mars need women, I've been to Trekcore, the site only has a few images, small at that, so that´s no option.

The calender image I have, in the form of a very poor scan, and as you say, the usual suspects in that view.

As for 1500x, yes, I meant 1500 pixels by some other number of pixels but I didn't suggest that it was broadcast at that resolution. 1500x was a suggestion. When you cap from dvd's you can choose size you see. I usually go for large caps, better for the small details.

And as for the usual suspects, there are several ships in the background that I have been unable to identify with the pics I found online, the pics are simply too small, which is the reason for my appeal for help.

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Standard broadcast definition is 640x480. Beyond that, the size of the image is irrelevant. The pictures at TrekCore seem to be 690 by 530 or thereabouts. So don't turn your nose up at them because they're "small" for your uses... they're exactly the size that you want! You can blow it up to 10,000 pixels yourself for all it matters.

Hell, back in my day, we had screencaps that were half the size, twice as grainy, and we loved it! Anyone remember Pedro's Shiporama? [Big Grin]

*cue the Four Yorkshiremen again*

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I was going to say, HD is only 1080i (horizontally), so going up to 1500 or more won't really help you, since you'll just get dithering and artificing as you go up. You definately won't get a lot more clarity...

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Back in my day, I capped from videotapes and posted on my site..

Ok, I have previously tried "blowing" up trekcore shots in photoshop, but get poor results. But fine, I get the message from all you guys, I should just shut up about "large" pics and settle for 640x480. That´s fine, but my original question wasn't really designed to get a lesson in imaging, but thanks!

Ok, so can anyone contribute actual pics?

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Sorry I guess I didn't read your first post clearly. Have you also tried ditl.org? There's also the neutralzone.de/database/. They might have some larger pictures for you.
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It´s ok, Mars, and thanks, but I´ve been there as well.

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quote:
Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
Standard broadcast definition is 640x480. Beyond that, the size of the image is irrelevant. The pictures at TrekCore seem to be 690 by 530 or thereabouts. So don't turn your nose up at them because they're "small" for your uses... they're exactly the size that you want! You can blow it up to 10,000 pixels yourself for all it matters.

Hell, back in my day, we had screencaps that were half the size, twice as grainy, and we loved it! Anyone remember Pedro's Shiporama? [Big Grin]

*cue the Four Yorkshiremen again*

Ah you were lucky...we used to watch our screencaps on the back of a rolled up corpse in a ceptic tank after working 72 hours a day in't mill, week in, week out and paid t' millman three shillings a day for t' privilage of working there after getting up at ten o'clock, thirty minutes before we went to bed and our old dad would cut us in half with a bread knife....

Now that we have that out of our system...I remember pedro. When is he ever going to get around to uploading the modeller's gallery I wonder? [Wink]

I know it's not much good for analysis, by Mojo posted a pretty alternate angle of Utopia planitia on his blog a while back.

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Mars Needs Women
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Well then I guess you'll just have to settle for fuzzy screencaps. Though like the others say, there really isn't anything new in those shots aside from those mushroom shaped space stations.
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"I was going to say, HD is only 1080i (horizontally)..."

Vertically. It's 1080 horizontal lines, so 1080 is the vertical height of the image.

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Daniel Butler
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Indeed, TSN.

Starship Freak: I guess what we were trying to get across is that if it was never broadcast as big as 1500x then showing a 1500x image from the low-resolution broadcast won't magically make new details appear. All the information in the original image is there at the original resolution.

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