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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

IE5 has recently been posted for downloading ....i've gotten mixed reviews however, was wondering what everyone who HAD downloaded it thought about it and if I should bother with it.

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If Galileo had lied to save his life, would America, or the West, or Space have been discovered?

Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

It's nice and everything, but I prefer Netscape

But I'm weird, so I use them both. IE5 is visually much better than previous versions and Netscape, but it still crashes on my computer a
lot

But I guess it's worth getting

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The Unknown Vulcan

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

DEATH TO INTERNET EXPLORER! DIE INTERNET EXPLORER DIE!

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Posted by Chimaera on :

I've had IE5 running on my computer for over a week now, and it hasn't crashed yet. I think it depends on your operating system, I run Windows 95 without a problem, but my roomate has Windows 98 and says IE5 crashes occassionally. I personally prefer the layout/setup of IE5 over netscape, and IE5 runs faster than previous versions.

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Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :

*grumbles 'cause over 60% of accesses here are from IE*

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Posted by LB4747 on :

I've found IE5 to be faster loading pages than either Communicator 4.5 or IE4. I've also had none of the lockups that I suffered under IE4 (for the record, I'm running Win95. I don't know what problems or differences there may be with Win98 computers).

I'd say, if you're already using IE4, then you should definitely upgrade as soon as possible to IE5. If your using Netscape, you might want to consider waiting for the next Netscape version (whenever that may come out).

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Lawrence Boucher
- "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you."
- "For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain."

Posted by StationMaster (Member # 63) on :

IE 5 is a pile of poo.

Simple, Plain and ruthless.

I hate it - I hate Micro$oft.

They walk in and let people get away with anything in HTML.
They think that they can pollute HTML to such a point where it becomes Micro$oft HTML.
They give me headache after headache while designing websites (and I produce on average 12-16 each week)
They make all of these "silly" differences between the way things initiate in Netscape and Miscrosoft Browsers.

I mean ask yourself. Take Melissa for example.
In IE it has all of this "CAN YOU TRUST THIS DOCUMENT OR THE JAVA THINGIMY WHATIZ?" crap in it with differing levels of protection (micro$ofts version of safe sex)
and then they let Outlook (that shoddly little snuff box of an e-mail package) accept and open very nasty virii when ever it feels like it.

My advice is if you want a good browser that does crash from time to time - Use Netscape.
If you want to use something else other than netscape - use Opera.

DONT use Bill "I nearly own the world....HA HA HA!" Gates "products" as they stink and make life much harder than it really should be.

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I feel better now.

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

I agree with Goffy's last statement. Everyone should get rid of Windows and use Linux or the Mac OS.

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

Well, when I learn how to use Linux, maybe I'll switch...

But as for Macs... if you buy an Apple, you'll find out what you got is a lemon.

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Posted by Chimaera on :

I find Linux a little intriguing (and I've heard a lot of good things about it), but I have neither the time nor the patience to fiddle with a system like that in order to get it working just the way I want it to. I'm one of those "plug and play" people who doesn't want to spend his time fiddling with things I really don't understand completely anyway. This is why I use windows, because the only settings I have to fiddle with are the desktop image and sounds. That was the original reason I switched from Netscape to IE4, because I was fed up with having to go out hunting for plugins for Netscape, when IE had them all already installed.

Not to mention Windows reminded me of the time change this morning

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

See, Chimaera, you're the ideal Mac user.

(My computer didn't need to remind me...it changed the time automatically! )

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Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

Linux is annoying...I've had it for a month and my mouse still wont work

At least my distribution came with Netscape
There's even a nifty button on the desktop for it

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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

*would like to go on the record as saying that*

I HATE MACS!

*ahem* *and that's pretty bad, coming from a graphic techniques major*

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If Galileo had lied to save his life, would America, or the West, or Space have been discovered?
And if Columbus had never set sail, would the Earth still be flat?

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Well, I hate Windows, so we're even.

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Rollbar: "That's the best offer we've had all day..."

Posted by LB4747 on :

In my experience, Macs are waaaay overrated. I once owned a PowerBook and it was nothing but a piece of crap. It crashed on a regular basis and the OS was anything but easy to use. It didn't even last a year -- the thing literally fell apart beyond use. A testament to poor design and shoddy craftsmanship. The biggest waste of money in my life. Yes, I'm bitter.

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- "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you."
- "For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain."

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Okay, there's only one way to sort this out.

Frank, you go in one corner...

Anyone wanna champion Windows in the other corner? Anyone?

Anyone?

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

LB: Was it a 5300-series one?

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Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

Babe, you know I'd volunteer to champion windows if'n I were up to it ... Instead I'll be one of those pretty, useless, sidelines women .. hows'about that? [smile]

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If Galileo had lied to save his life, would America, or the West, or Space have been discovered?
And if Columbus had never set sail, would the Earth still be flat?

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

See, what sort of name is 5300-series?

You want cool, racey imaginative names like Pentium. Pentium II. Er, Pentium III.

Or 486, 386.

No wait, scrap all that.

I shall instead support Jubes whole heartidly. Hows that?

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'It's okay to only know three chords but God, put them in the right order'
-Hank Hill

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Well, the 5300-series was just a (poorly-made) group of PowerBooks. See, "PowerBook" is imaginative.

These days Apple just makes G3s and iMacs. There used to be Performas, Quadras, Centrises, LCs, Classics, and all kinds of other nifty names. And then there were the clone companies, like Power Computing, whose line included PowerWaves, PowerTowers, PowerCenters, PowerBases, PowerCurves, and there was almost the PowerTrip laptop. Lots of power there.

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Destruction Drone: "Throw down your weapons and I will spare your miserable lives!"
Rollbar: "That's the best offer we've had all day..."

Posted by LB4747 on :

No, it wasn't a 5300. It was a 190cs. Admittedly, not nearly the top of the line (but it was all I could afford at that time). To be fair, I'm sure the more expensive, better powered Macs aren't nearly as problematic. Still, I did pay a reasonable amount of money for it and it would've been nice if the computer had lasted more than a year.

I don't actually hate Macs; it's just that I don't see that much benefit in switching over from Wintel based machines. And I personally don't think the Mac OS is vastly superior to Windows. Feel free to persuade me otherwise.

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Lawrence Boucher
- "If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you."
- "For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain."

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Well, the 190 was essentially the 5300 with a 68040 processor, so it had similar quality problems. (Two of these actually burst into flames, although this happened at Apple's headquarters.)

This page has a few outdated links, but is still useful.

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Destruction Drone: "Throw down your weapons and I will spare your miserable lives!"
Rollbar: "That's the best offer we've had all day..."

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

*realizing that she has now started some sort of mac/windows argument, the original poster of the topic goes O_o and then pulls a CC*

*in other words, she just shakes her head and walks away*

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If Galileo had lied to save his life, would America, or the West, or Space have been discovered?
And if Columbus had never set sail, would the Earth still be flat?

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Shouting "I hate Macs!" in a crowded thread will always start an argument.

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Destruction Drone: "Throw down your weapons and I will spare your miserable lives!"
Rollbar: "That's the best offer we've had all day..."

Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :

*enters the thread just long enough to relieve himself on both Microsoft and Macintosh, then hurriedly runs away*

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Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

Ya know, Bill Gates holes world records for wealth, so he can simply make some of you disappear if he so wishes

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The Unknown Vulcan

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

*comes back in, just to say*

Wow, I started a topic that has 25 replies! Cool!
*now making her newbie-ness apparent*
*then walks back out*

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If Galileo had lied to save his life, would America, or the West, or Space have been discovered?
And if Columbus had never set sail, would the Earth still be flat?

Posted by Chimaera on :

Whether or not they are better machines, I hear the imac's are selling quite well, which I find rather peculiar for a computer that has no disk drive and looks like a child's toy IMHO.

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"Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you."
-Commander Riker, USS Enterprise

Posted by deadcujo (Member # 13) on :

Imac's look too plain and flashy to me...I prefer having a big box full of wires and stuff, and not having everything stuffed into the monitor

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The Unknown Vulcan

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Of course, the problem with iMac's is that next year they'll be hopelessly behind the pace of technology. On the other hand, if Macintosh then release a better iMac, they've kinda missed the point...

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Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

I hate Internet Exploder 5 *and* Netsnail 4.5. Death to all software companies!

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

They've released several versions of the iMac. The fourth is due out this week.

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

LB4747: If you're interested, Apple has a new program where you can send back your 190, and get a new G3 laptop (a good one, too) for only $1899.

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