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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
I did. My first time, admittedly, and I was nervous, but I did ask her out. Someone I knew said she wanted to go out with me, but he was lying, apparently. Oh well, he will die.
Anyway, the girl I asked out was surprised and just smiled while saying "No thanks, sorry," and walked away. Not bad for my first time (I'm relatively young). Even if she didn't agree to going out with me, it gives me points.
And it's better than some of you will ever do.
 

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Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
*LOL!*
 

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Posted by Alshrim (Member # 258) on :
 
Well .. good for you buddy.
It's not easy - not all the time .. sometimes .. you don't even have to ask .. it just sorta happens..

I'm recently seperated .. well.. it's been nearly 3 months..

I've been alone for that long.. My wife has.. literally disappeared.. she calls only to get shtuff from me .. and i never see her. *shrugs*

however... There has been a girl that I've wanted to ask out for about 2 weeks... nothing serious.. just ask out -- go to bar for a drink.. or a movie.. or just a darn walk....

It's tough to do it after nearly 10 years...

*slaps head* what am I thinkin'?

So I feel yer pain.

It's not the last time you'll be rejected... But when one girl says... 'yes' it makes all the rejections worth it!!

Keep tryin'

[ January 17, 2002: Message edited by: Alshrim ]
 

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Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
At least she didn't run to the other side of the room.

Or fall for your friend who was like you in just about every respect except taller, better muscles, and blonde.

Or agree to go to the prom with you while neglecting to tell you she had a boyfriend.

Sorry. I'm bitter.
 

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Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 
Well, I'm as fresh as daisy. Completely unspoiled by any sort of relationship.

And down right lonely.
 

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I haven't been in a relationship in about a year (yeah, freedom!*). Anyhoo, semester starts Monday the 28th, so hopefully something'll come out of it (a new drinking buddy, if nothing else).

* Financial freedom, too. Dating can be expensive.
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
*sigh*
I liked her, too, but judging from what happened today she will probably try to avoid me as much as possible. But that's normal, I just hope she doesn't think I'm a stalker or anything.
However...as far as I know, I'm the first person to ask her out. And that means, whether she likes it or not, I'll be imbedded in her mind forever as being the first person to ask her out.
 

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Posted by EdipisReks (Member # 510) on :
 
yeah, in my experience, if they don't say yes they do avoid you . man, talk about expenses. it sometimes seems that my girlfriend of 2.5 years gets to my paychecks before i do, because there is never anything left when i want something for me.

[edited to add words that were missing. the first sentence now makes sense]

--jacob

[ January 17, 2002: Message edited by: EdipisReks ]
 

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Posted by Lost (Member # 417) on :
 
You got the first step out of the way, and faced rejection too boot. Not that it is a good thing, but the very worst of it is over.......
 

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
Gotta say wow, because I have never asked a girl out. Been in a lot of 'situations', 'arrangements', 'entanglements'. etc.. (even though i chose the path of most laziness, not asking girls out. sheer probability has landed me with a few good things here and there.. kind of restores your faith in the universe when youre feeling glum. Except when you still arent getting any)
One day when things are boring maybe we'll all pull up a thread and hear the history of Captain Mike and girls. Its quite enthralling I think.
 

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Posted by The Antagonist (Member # 484) on :
 
Hey Veers, congrats on yor first ummm....rejection. Lemme just tell you a few things that I've learned that may make your dating life a little easier.

In my experiences, you shouldn't ever feel like you're not good enough to ask a girl out. If you're in a high school sitcom drama like situation (which was often the case for me),then it'll be hard to pierce the social cliche aspect of asking a girl out. The bottom line is this: If your personalities connect, then there is no reason for you to hesitate to ask her out.
Also think of dating this way: Its all about the sex. No, actually, I don't mean you should be having one-night stands or anything. Shit, no that would be bad. what I mean is that don't get too emotionally attached to your significant other. More serious relationships should come later, after you've figured out how the whole dating thing works.

And remember most of all.... have fun.
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
It could've gone better Veers, but trust me, it could have gone much, much worse. If you don't believe me, I think the Major Barcalow vs. Girls thread is still up here somewhere....

I'm planning on asking someone out tonight after work. Making that call is the hardest thing.

I think the biggest thing when asking girls out (I'm far from being an expert, mind you) is to get a little small talk in first. Make 'em laugh, chat a little. Run into them a few times and establish a couple of commonalities. Then you have the chance to segue into "Hey, I'm going to grab a cup of coffee. Wanna join me?"

Being casual about the first "ask out" is a decent way to get a feel for interest level and at the same time makes future run-ins less uncomfortable in the case of a rejection.

But hey...if it makes you feel better...it never gets any easier
 

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Posted by Alshrim (Member # 258) on :
 
Amen to that Aban Rune !! I'm planning on asking this girl out today too!!

*crosses finger* -- freakin' 32 years old - and still getting the heebee-jeebees when it comes down to this !!
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I know... I pace around the freakin' room for five minutes before I finally get the matza to just dial the number. I'm 26 and it still feels like I'm back in high school every time!
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
I've learned better than to ask a girl out over the phone. In person works so much better. Not that I've had better LUCK with it, mind you. It's just more... natural.
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Oh, definitely!! I always prefer in person. It's just that it tends to creep girls out when I show up at their homes to ask them out I don't work with her or anything, so really the only way I have to get in touch with her is by phone.

I'm not sure this is helping Veers anymore...
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Not really, but it's still very interesting...
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Interesting note: This girl was the one I'd occasionally talk about X-files with...the only one girl I could really talk about sci-fi with. Now, until there is a really big episode that changes the series (for a few months only) or until the series finale, I don't think I'll be comfortable having a casual conversation with her about it anymore.

[ January 18, 2002: Message edited by: Veers ]
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Ok...let's dissect this. I assumed that you didn't know this girl that well before you asked her out.

So what was the situation and what did you say exactly when you asked her out. If you've got friendship history with her, this may not be totally unsalvagable.
 

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Veers,

I guess it depends on how well you know the girl, but I've found that if two people are friends, regardless of which one does the asking (and I've been on both ends), the friendship continues. Just go up to her, and start talking about the X-Files.
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Right. As long as you don't have a deep seeded secret love for her and as long as you don't continue to pressure her for a date after she's said no (and, incedently, as long as she's not psycho), the wierdness can probably be kept to a minimum. Just give it a few days and then start talking about the X-Files is getting cancelled.
 

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
we ARE getting close to a tell all from Captain Mike.. oh it will be a long post
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
OK, I've known her for 5 years maybe, and I don't know how much we can consider ourselves friends, but I have been talking to her now and then, not always on the subject of X-files.

I suppose if I wait a while, I can act like nothing happened and bring up the subject of X-files ending in May.

However, the whole reason I asked her out was that someone I knew said she wanted to go out with me. So I acted on his report. Apparently, he is a lying bastard, so I should put his name, adress, phone number, etc., on this forum so all you can mess with him.

But I'm not interested in becoming involved with the cops. Besides, on Tuesday, he will wish he never said anything.

All I said, BTW, was "Hey--do you want to go out?"
Acting on the advice of another friend, I attempted to keep eye contact and be myself. But I was so surprised that I had actually done what I did that I did not do that, I think.

Anyway, I am hoping this will all blow past me and her. Seeing that no one mentioned it to me besides the people I told, it looks like she didn't tell any of her friends.
(And I don't intend to keep pressuring her...it will make it seem like I'm a jerk and a pervert)

[ January 18, 2002: Message edited by: Veers ]
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Ok...rookie mistake...but it's not fatal. Don't just say, "Wanna go out." Ask her to do something. "I'm going to see Lord of te Rings this weekend. Would you like to go with me?" That way, it's not a big thing. It's just getting together and hanging out to do something that you were already going to anyway. Now, as you go along and build the foundation up a bit...you can become a little more direct.

"Wanna go out" says, "I want to go on a date with you and be your date and take you out for a date."

IMHO, and again...let's not confuse me with someone who knows what he's talking about...casual is better up front. you don't have to be boyfriend/girlfriend after the first date...it can be "get to know you" for awhile.
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 

"Also think of dating this way: Its all about the sex."

*adds that to the list of philosophies that will one day destroy mankind*

*realizes he doesn't have a list of philosophies that will one day destroy mankind*

*considers starting one*

*remembers he's too lazy and goes back to thinking about when he's finally going to ask out the girl he's wanted to ask out for months now*

I'm in class w/ her five days a week. Last semester, too. And yet, here I am still. Why must I suck so incredibly much?
 

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 

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Why must I suck so incredibly much?

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Apparently, he is a lying bastard

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Then again, he could be telling the truth and she just panicked when you actually DID ask her out.

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That's a good point. She could be just acting coy, Veers, or she could be just as nervous as you. The "communal date" idea mentioned earlier can help break the ice alright, but it can be a double-edged sword, she might take to someone else in the group.
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
True--it may have caught her off guard--but I still think I need to make friends with her a little more. If she is "salvagable."
And, there are other girls.
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 
*Wohoah...*
*Nevod found intresting thread*
*Nevod looked in and drooled a lot*

Actually, I feel sorry for you, Veers... But honestly, that's not a reason why I posted.

So: I damn want(or at least I think so) to ask out a girl... I know her for 7 years, and we are(or had been... Because I had stopped any relations whatsoever with anyone for 1 month) for 2.5 years... And I think I can get some crap to talk about...

Though... I don't enjoy talking with people(usually) and I got somewhat evil in last 2 weeks...

Can someone put in more help?
 

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
I would think someone needs to put in a lot of help.

I was going to write a grand and glorious retelling of some good girl stories, but recent developments are making me feel less than generous towards members of the opposite sex that i used to celebrate the existance of. Perhaps when things improve.

I'm glad this board isn't as publicized as TrekBBS, or we would have non-scifi fans surfing in and observing that there is a thread with this name..
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 
Huh, I do realize that the same is happening with me... Or my classmates... They became ignorant, completely ignoring school "laws" and NEVER getting any punishment. That's the reason why I became a bit evil.

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*Looks top and thinks: Why in the hell I posted this?*

Oh, and today 2 girls asked me for something similar... I refused. Why? Because I don't believe im them. Darn, can someone give positive stories? I'm tired of sheer unluckiness.

BTW, the best part about Flare that it has very friendly community.
 

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Funny. My luck with women is getting better & better all the time. Must because I'm (to quote one girl) "a dayum sexay PeePee God."
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
TSN: That was me trying to be reassuring If you've known her for a while and she knows who you are, then I think that's your first step. You're half way home. I'd invite her to something casual. Something you know she's interested in.

Just my two cents. But to me, getting to know someone well enough to even decide I want to ask them out is a whole process in itself. You've got that hurdle jumped already!
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Aban: While I appreciate the offer, I'm not really looking for advice. I already know what I need to do. The difficulty is just in getting the words to actually come out of my mouth. :-)
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Hmm. I think what this thread is seriously lacking is me attempting to give advice. 8)

First off, way to go Veersychops! I bet that took a lot of guts, more than I'd have. I've never actually asked anyone out like that, my relationships usually started out as friendships which rapidly got sexual (usually with drink involved), or as casual meetings in bars or clubs that rapidly got sexual (definitely with drink, and other things, involved).

I was once set up on a blind date. We got along OK, but afterwards the mutual friend informed me that a long-time male friend of hers, hearing of this development, panicked and informed her of his true feelings for her. She returned those feelings, they got together, end of story. Was it a lie to spare my feelings? Don't know. She was small and blonde and cute, the kind who seems all innocent and prim and proper, not really my type, who turns out to be a hellcat in the sack. Oh, wait. . .

Then, more recently, there was a girl I liked at work. We were vague acquaintances for a long time, until I became part of the same social circle as her. Then it became torture. I sort-of asked her out once, she couldn't make it. We never really got much chance for one-on-one interaction, it was more as part of a group. I had to see her go through several relationships while apparently not knowing I existed in that sense. Did she know? Probably, it just wasn't important to her then. Our best mutual friend informs me I likely had my chance, once evening when she called me, despondent over a relationship that was ending badly. She called me, and me alone; I was near where she was so I went over and we spent the evening hanging out; I didn't want to try anything because she was vulnerable then. I was also coming to the realisation, having seen her relationship style, that we wouldn't work together. But I still wonder what might have been. . . We've both found our oysters now, however, and are just as close friends, and like each others' other halves to boot. I'm not allowed to invite her to my stag weekend despite her being one of "the lads" but her boyfriend's coming along.

Is that tour through the lowlights of my lovelife any help, or of any relevance? Probably not. But I lied getting it off my chest. 8)
 

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Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
 

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Originally posted by Veers:
True--it may have caught her off guard--but I still think I need to make friends with her a little more. If she is "salvagable."
And, there are other girls.

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Salvagable. Kinda strikes me as odd using the word, "salvagable" when talking about a girl. But I guess it's the best word for the situation.
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Since we all seem to be spilling our guts about our love lives, or lack thereof...

There was once an extremely attractive girl who had a crush on me, back... three years ago, I believe. The girl practically asked me out on at least one occasion, and flirted with me on a couple others. But at the time, I was just too think to see it. It took one of her friends verbally smacking me over the head to notice it, and even then I was STILL to thick to do anything about it. By the time I actually got around to asking her out over a year later, she, of course, wasn't interested.

Curse my youthful stupidity. That girl was HOT! Still is, for that matter.

At the mo, accounting for age and personality, there are only two girls that I know that I'd be anywhere near intersted in. I apparently don't meet one's standards (but then, no other guy she's met does, either...), so that leaves but one, and she may just be interested. Worth a shot.
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
It did take a lot of guts. I didn't even think I'd do it. Then I just planted my foot down, turned around, and asked her.
The hard part is waiting to say it. Opening your mouth and saying it isn't really the hardest part(well, it is)--but you have to know what to say, how to say it, and when to say it. I think I messed up somewhere in there.
On an unrelated note, why is everything so slow to load on this forum now?
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
You know, the first time I asked a girl out, I said, "You know, I have a friend that's threatening to beat me with a rubber fish if I don't ask you out."

Which was true.

She didn't hear me. Dumb bowling alley.
 

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
When I was a senior in high school, there was a freshman girl on my bus who had a crush on me, and printed out about 100 pages of the MSTVoyager website for me. She was cute, but young, and she had mild tourette's or something like it that made her twitch out funny things every once in a while. She tried to arrange for me to come to her friends birthday party with her, but i backed out cuz i wasnt sure if i wanted to go, and the age difference bothered me.

Nowadays, nobody ever has a crush on me, and the age differences I deal with now are so much more severe than the 3 years i wouldve been dealing with back then. Stupid hindsight.

[ January 19, 2002: Message edited by: CaptainMike ]
 

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Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
The greatest ass-raping I ever recievd from a woman over asking her out would be the girl I knew from Sophomore year (she was a senior at the time). Just about the only interaction my all guys school had with the nearby all girls school was a school play my sophomore year that never got off the ground again.

Anyway, the play ended and life went on. Next year came and so did the junior prom. I managed to track down her AIM ID and started small talk. She invited to her play at the local community college, where she was now going (good sign, eh? ) So I went, dragged my friend with me and sat there and watched her play Miranda in the Tempest. Afterwards we saw her and did the regulatory small talk. I asked her, and I honestly don't remember the next five seconds of my life. I know she said yes and I think - I'm not sure - I got out of there with some dignity attached.

Well, as time would pass, I found myself at her house to get this behavior agreement sheet signed by her. She was looking for a pen while her grandmother in the coffee stained "I Love Jesus" sweat shirt grilled me. As my date reentered to sign the paper, her grandmother turned to her and casually remarked, "Does Jeff know about this?" To which she responded with equal casualness something about him not caring and she was going to do it anyway. Then, for the final kick in the balls, the grandmother turned to me and stated more matter of factly than I have ever heard anybody speak before or since, "Jeff is her boyfriend."

I still have the ticket stub from the play, because finding the courage to ask her out is the bravest thing I have ever done.
 

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Posted by Ultra Magnus (Member # 239) on :
 

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The greatest ass-raping I ever recievd from a woman

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I found myself at her house to get this behavior agreement sheet signed by her.

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Well, dear old me! I hope she wouldn't raise her voice in outcry if your dowry did not meet her family's expectations!

A Gentleman Caller indeed!

I saw a movie once, and it had Kevin Pollock and William Shatner in it. William Shatner was the dad of this woman, who was wearing the sexy underwear for sex, and who owned a Future security-seal chastity belt that could only be opened by the Bill himself.

Kevin Pollock, who does a very nice Shatner impression, made an android of the lady, and enjoyed the sweaty, sweaty sex with it. But it become stuck.

So, I think, crazy courting procedures are crazy.
 

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Herr Magnus has apparently been briefed on the ways of the Barcalow.

Unless he is the Barcalow.
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Ah... Just like the olden days. That's the UM we all know and fear. :-)

"That girl was HOT! Still is, for that matter."

Well, Omega's going to hell. Again.
 

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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Yeah, I was thinking that myself. Whatever happened to "actively not wanting to lust" & all that shit?
 

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Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
Yeah, what ever happened to Ommie's "actively not wanting to lust" attitude towards life?

[Edit] Well freck. GMTA, I suppose. Damned phone.[/Edit]

[ January 20, 2002: Message edited by: Cartman ]
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 
He now just want not to actively want to lust.

While I extremely want to get lazed, but all my efforts are unsuccessful.
anyways...

[ January 20, 2002: Message edited by: Cartman ]
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
That was the first time I had taken action on girls...
*raises eyebrows*
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 

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Originally posted by Veers:
That was the first time I had taken action on girls...
*raises eyebrows*

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Originally posted by CaptainMike:
The only problem is that she isn't really looking for a relationship-type thing right now, so our time together has been relegated to the area of 'fun', which I know is going to crush me soon enough. She has a small child and we've been having such a great time. I'm really crazy about being responsible for helping her take care of her daughter and we do so much for each other that there is no way I could walk away just because the terms of the relationship bother me.

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THIS...is not good.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong. But if this girl isn't planning to have anything to do with you other than "fun," then it's not fair to her daughter at all for her to get so attached to you. It'll cause serious problems later.
 

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
agreed.. that's probably the least of whats wrong with her daughters life though.. my opinion of this is going to change very soon, depending on how im treated in the coming weeks.. im trying to find a way to be destroyed gracefully
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Lust is sexual desire. One can recognize that a female is attractive without having any such feelings towards her. I presume at least some of you have female cousins?
 

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
So let me get this straight:

We have OmegaLust, which comprises trying to pick up a significant other, and regretting not getting "that girl" because "that girl was HOT"

Then we have badbad sexual lust, comprised of the above plus wanting to insert one's organ into the girls' distinct lack of organ.

And Omega then defines OmegaLust as akin to what one feels towards female cousins rather than the aforementioned badbad.

Hot cousins. Lovely. Way to propogate stereotypes about you southerners.
 

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Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 
I think Omega lives in Shelbyville.
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Tom: You must have missed the signature I had a while back. It was from an ICQ conversation I had w/ Omega, in which he said incest was okay, except for the fact that it's illegal, and if it weren't illegal, he'd be banging his cousins.

Well, not in those exact words, but that was the idea conveyed.
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Christ. What was that other line from The Simpsons? "Someone has spiked the punch - we have called your parents to come collect you!" You have to promise not to do all the things that make a dance fun before you go to the dance, or. . . what? You get sued, probably? Fuck me. It's no wonder Americans like killing people so much, you obviously have a lot to get out of your systems.

Anyway. While I frown on publicising things people have said in private conversations, I'd like to know exactly what was said in that ICQ quote so I might better understand OmegaLust. 8)
 

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I think that was something he said on the forums, actually, *not* in an ICQ ...

... which, mind me, reminds me of my current Omega quote, a year and a day old today
 

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Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
Yes yes...shoes...[insert Jewish mumbling here].

Anyways...the terms as I recall (mind you it has been almost two years now) were almost all entirely trivial matters. Such as the acceptable times for the removal of shoes and ties and such. There might have been terms regarding intercourse and alcohol, but I can't recall specifically. It was the super trivial shit that I remember.

Now if you'll excuse me...I'm off to watch Family Guy. The hell with Morpheus and KaZaa, just look for a kid in your dorm whose got the burned CDs you want.
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 

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Originally posted by The_Tom:
So let me get this straight:

We have OmegaLust, which comprises trying to pick up a significant other, and regretting not getting "that girl" because "that girl was HOT"

Then we have badbad sexual lust, comprised of the above plus wanting to insert one's organ into the girls' distinct lack of organ.

And Omega then defines OmegaLust as akin to what one feels towards female cousins rather than the aforementioned badbad.

Hot cousins. Lovely. Way to propogate stereotypes about you southerners.

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Huh?
I think that he was mentioning literally, witout any other meaning, ie: Can we say that that girl is sexual, while not getting attracted to her, or generally not attracting to her, or we'll get attracted anyways, otherwise we won't say that she is sexual. Am I right?
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Nevod: No-one can say, because none of that made any sense whatsoever.

To all those asking about Omega's incestual tendencies, it wasn't something he said here. Like I mentioned above, it was in an ICQ conversation. As I also mentioned, it was my signature for a while, so it's already public domain. I told him I was going to quote it, and he had no problem. Here's the long version (the part that was my sig is bolded). I left out the beginning. We were discussing a certain line from Exodus that had come up in a discussion here.

TSN: Really, the only interpretation that I can see that isn't completely silly is that he's warning that anyone who hates him is going to get punished, their kids are going to get punished, their /kids'/ kids are going to get punished, &c. Scare tactics.

Omega: Quite possible. He also told them not to wear cotton-polyester blends.

TSN: After all, it's not like Yahweh had any problems w/ letting people die if it served his purpose. Remember Job? "Yeah, sure, kill off his family. Fuck 'em. I just need to prove he'll still like me."

TSN: Really? *feels his underwear burst into flame* Hm... I guess so...

Omega: Yeah, we had fun with that one in class this morning. The teacher used some obscure verse in Leviticus as evidence that getting a tatoo was morally wrong. I kept wanting to tell someone to check the tag in the back of my shirt.

Omega: Frelled if Leviticus still applies to anyone.

Omega: ANYWAY.

Omega: A) I have issues with Job.

TSN: I seem to recall that Leviticus included certain anti-incest laws, among others...

TSN: You're not allowed to have issues w/ Job. Heretic! Burn in hell!

Omega: Well, those are on the books now, and I'm supposed to follow the laws of the country.

TSN: So, if the US Code didn't outlaw incest, you'd have no problem w/ it, ignoring the Leviticus laws?

Omega: Hey, the Bible as we know it was compiled by Catholics eight centuries ago. Evaluate each book on an individual basis. Job adds nothing to scripture, and contradicts many things we know about God. Thus, throw it out. It's the ONLY book in the Bible that doesn't have anything to do with Christ. Well, except Song of Solomon, but it's porn, so it's all good.

Omega: You haven't seen my cousins. :-)

Omega: ;-)

TSN: Well, personally, I say throw out all the other books, too.

TSN: Um... Wow. That one's going in the sig...

Omega: Better include that wink.

Omega: How come every time I tell a joke, it ends up in someone's .sig?

TSN: That could be interpreted two different ways, actually...

Omega: Which one?

TSN: The wink.

Omega: *L*

Omega: "How beautiful are your sandaled feet, O queenly maiden. Your rounded thighs are like jewels, the work of a skilled craftsman. Your navel is as delicious as a goblet filled with wine. Your belly is lovely, like a heap of wheat set about with lilies. Your breasts are like twin fawns of a gazelle. Your neck..."

You get the idea.

Omega: Good stuff, Song of Solomon.

TSN: Well, at least on the way upward, he went from thighs to navel w/o any stops in between.

Omega: Yeah, I noticed that...

Omega: These people seemed more interested in breasts. Typical males, I guess.

Omega: Of course, this is Solomon. You'd think with all that wisdom, he'd grasp (*snicker*) more... advanced concepts.

TSN: Not necessarily. Even smart guys gotta get off...

Omega: Yeah, those thousand concubines would have been handy for that.

TSN: Exactly.

[ January 21, 2002: Message edited by: TSN ]
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Alas, somehow I fear, given the old-dogs-new-tricks rule, I shall never grasp the fundamentals of OmegaLust. Instead I shall continue to prectise NaughtyLust, and burn in hellfire. Although, all my female cousins (on my Dad's side of the family) are really hot, as it happens. 8)
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 
TSN: And you think it made sense??? It's so pointless, only this can be more pointless
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Geez, I go away for the weekend and this thread jumps to 6 pages....

Nevod: That's a darn cool web design.

TSN: Sorry. Didn't mean to get so nosey. No more advice from Aban.

Song of Solomon: *realizes this is suicide* I've been looking over this book alot for a talk I have coming up this week. The physical desriptions of the Shulamite and her "beloved" never mention lust. Appreciation of physical beauty...obviously. But it's not lustful. As that transcription stated...there are no stops in between :0)

Well...I made my call on Saturday. We're having dinner on Tuesday.

*bows* Thank you, Ontario. Goodnight!
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 
Ookay, pesky bastards, I'll kill them for getting rid of most pointless site ever. What for they need such a site name???

Trying again... looking...
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Yah...ok...that one's pretty stupid...
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
*SIGH*
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Uhh. . . guys? You're ignoring the lovesick teenager, OK? There, there, Vee, it does get better. . . 8)
 

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Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
No it doesn't.

Don't give the boy false hope.
 

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
Eh. You win some, you lose some. And then there are the ones where she shouts across the dorm's main lobby, "I would never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever sleep with you! Even if I were drunk!"
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
It appears as if Simon's usual good cheer has spread to the other members of Flare. Soon I shall be dancing the happy dance of Sizer.
 

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Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
 
I am so glad I'm not straight anymore. I'd go nuts if I had to deal with dating women and hearing advice about it.
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 

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Originally posted by Siegfried:
Eh. You win some, you lose some. And then there are the ones where she shouts across the dorm's main lobby, "I would never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever sleep with you! Even if I were drunk!"

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Originally posted by Vogon Poet:
Uhh. . . guys? You're ignoring the lovesick teenager, OK? There, there, Vee, it does get better. . . 8)

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Originally posted by Michael_T:
I am so glad I'm not straight anymore. I'd go nuts if I had to deal with dating women and hearing advice about it.

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Originally posted by Aban Rune:

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Originally posted by Michael_T:
I am so glad I'm not straight anymore. I'd go nuts if I had to deal with dating women and hearing advice about it.

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And how is that different than dating men and getting advice about it? Maybe I don't want to know...

[ January 22, 2002: Message edited by: Aban Rune ]

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quote:

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Originally posted by Vogon Poet:
Actually, I was wondering why Simon said the single word 'specific' on the previous page. . .

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I think that he posted accidentially and deleted post. Just gave us some mindboggling thing...

CaptainMike: Look at Zombo! ultimate relaxator.
 

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I think he meant that Nevod's suggestion for what should be done with women who "shouts across the dorm's main lobby, "I would never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever sleep with you! Even if I were drunk!" was extremely specific.
 

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Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
 
Dating men is different, you just say what you want and go from there.
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 
Sorry crap/.

[ January 23, 2002: Message edited by: Nevod ]
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Michael_T:
Dating men is different, you just say what you want and go from there.

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Sorry, I just didn't know. Now I understand. Initially I thought that you was saying about girls dating mens.
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I have gay friends who'd disagree with that Mikey. And I have straight friends who say what you do about dating girls.

*dances the happy Simon dance*
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Okaaaaayyyyy, I think I'll leave this thread...

[ January 24, 2002: Message edited by: Veers ]
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Nein nein nein! Herr Veers, ve haf yet to be gettink to ze underlyink psychosis, from zis ve vill perchance be able to determine zer correct course of treatment. Pliss to be tellink me about your mother. 8)
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 


[ January 24, 2002, 19:50: Message edited by: Veers ]
 

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Posted by The Antagonist (Member # 484) on :
 
Thats funny Mike, I know a few girls that are the same way. You tell 'em what you want and go from there. Not that I like that, not much of a chellenge now, is it? Again, I want to beat a stereotype with a rubber mallet.

Hey Veers, do you know any of this girl's friends? Try calling them up and be really upfront with them. let them know that you want to hook up with this girl and you're in need of some back up. I can't tell you how useful friends are in dating situations. (90% of the time people hook up through their friends in one way or another).

Oh, and Tim? let me rephrase my previous statement. perhaps it isn't all about the sex, its also about having a good time.
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
To steal a line from the incomparable Simon "Mighty" Sizer:

Er, duh?
 

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Posted by The Antagonist (Member # 484) on :
 
*sigh*

*promptly sticks his foot in his mouth*

Nevermind. I'm just going to lurk from now on and not post.

*hears applause in the background*

HEY DAMN IT!
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
I know some of her friends, but I don't want to try and get back up to ask her out. Besides, I think I know who she goes out with: a stupid, childish jerk (who used to be a class clown). I've seen him talk about her once, and they always get very friendly and talk when he goes up to her.
I can't be sure they go out, but I have a feeling they do.
 

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
I searched for many years, trying to discover the Great Unified Gender Theory... that one simple equation that will explain all the interactions between the two sides of humanity. It took many, many failed experiments, and more than once some severe psychological abuse, but I finally boiled it all down to one compound sentence:

Men are stupid, and women are crazy.
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
"I think I know who she goes out with: a stupid, childish jerk (who used to be a class clown)."

I think I'll pre-empt everyone here and say that I have no idea who this woman is.
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Me neither. 8)
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
I've come to a similar conclusion to Rob's, except mine's more complex. EVERYONE, regardless of gender, is a combination of stupid and crazy. It's just a matter of percentages, and they vary with the individual.
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Shocking.
(Sorry. I just had to say that somewhere...I'm watching Dr. No on ABC...)

Anyway, I hope she's not going out with this guy.
 

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Posted by The Antagonist (Member # 484) on :
 
Look at it this way: If she is then she's missing out on you. Or something like that, thats what I keep telling myself (not that I'm the perfect male or anything, but it keeps me from depairing over dating problems).
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Stop worrying. If you spend all your time wandering around going "Must...have...woman...love", then you'll end up like, well, like you lot are now.

Follow Lee's example. A sad bastard for 10 years, and then without trying he falls into his dream woman's arms, and is very happy. And if he can do it, anyone can.
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Er, excuse me? I was not a sad bastard for ten years, thank you very much. It was more like seven. 8)
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Must... have... woman... love...
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
*impersonates the sailor from the Simpsons*
Yaargh. I guess that's the way the old wind blows. If she wants to end up with someone like him for the rest of 'er days, then that's OK with me.
(it's really not, but...)

[ January 27, 2002, 13:14: Message edited by: Veers ]
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
In order:

I was rounding up.

If that's your chat-up line Tim, I can see where you are going wrong.

Captain McAllister, or "Old Sea Captain".
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Liam: It's not a "chat-up line". It's just true.
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Methinks the Nix doth protest too much. Seems to me he's trying to avoid the true calling of his heart, which is to hitch his wagon to the Man Train.

And, if we're gonna be rounding up, I gues we can conclusively state that Liam hasn't been with a woman for, like, thirty years. 8)
 

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
Must... also... have... the... woman... love...

Of course, I'm nearing the point of desperation, so my only requirments now are approximately my age and breathing. Everything else is negotiatable. This boy must go!
 

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
once i gave up the age requirement is when i made my biggest victories (and most spectacular failures)
 

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Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 

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Of course, I'm nearing the point of desperation, so my only requirments now are approximately my age and breathing.

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Originally posted by TSN:
I would like to reiterate a previous lamentation of mine: "Why must I suck so incredibly much?". I won't go into detail, but I have my reasons for repeating said grievance at this time.

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OK, I'll, er, bite. Because his cellmate, Moose, says so. 8)
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
once i gave up the age requirement is when i made my biggest victories

Oh, please tell me that it's the UPPER limit that you gave up?
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
If he's defining "biggest" literally, I'd guess so...
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Unless he was preying on the fat girls in Junior High.
 

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
That was harsh.

So, how bout that local sports team?
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 

"I'll have you know that I have been with every woman throughout all of time. Twice."

Ew... So, was it a mutual thing, or did you have to force yourself on your mom or vice versa?
 

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
Well, I was with one woman twice this morning.
And that's two of MINE, not just two of hers.
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
She had two mornings? Weird...
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Twice in one morning? Gosh. Sexual experimentation finally reaches American shores. Four times in two hours, now. . . 8)
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Is this the same morning? Poor Julie must be knackered. The travelling alone would tire most people out.

[ January 29, 2002, 18:08: Message edited by: PsyLiam ]
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 

"Four times in two hours, now. . ."

I think I've done that. Maybe only three. I'm not sure...
 

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Posted by The Antagonist (Member # 484) on :
 
So lets break this down.

Four times within two hours, or once every 30 minutes. That is roughly enough time to do the deed, roll over, smoke a cigarette, tell 'em they were "the best," and ask if they want to do it again.

Now, assuming a few moments for the ceremonial foreplay, what did you do with the other 27 minutes in between each, errr... session?


 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Try to get my breath back. I'm not a teenager anymore.
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
In age or stone...

Tim's rather clinical comment has disturbed me on several levels. Unless he was talking about finding a grammatical mistake in a published book.
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I was not.
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Well, then, it's settled. We're all* sexual Tyrannosauruses, except Liam. 8)

*Subject to Tim not going into the correct plural of Tyrannosaurus
 

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
yeah, i should have skipped page 10 of 'I asked a girl out today' Make a note of it
 

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
travelling?
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
My longest thread ever has wandered into stupidity...
 

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Posted by Tora Ziyal (Member # 53) on :
 
Wow.
 

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Hi Tora, where ya' been?
 

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Posted by Tora Ziyal (Member # 53) on :
 
Here and there. My Internet connection hasn't worked since October, so I'm reduced to using the uni's computer lab with its Pentium III's and 20-in screens and T1 connections.
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
You poor thing.

And I don't know whether the correct plural of "Tyrranosaurus" is supposed to be "Tyrannosauruses" or "Tyrranosauri". I think I'd just say "Tyrannosaurs" and be safe.
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
"We're all sexual Tyrannosauruses, except Liam."

As I don't know whether or not the Tyrannosaurus was good at sex or not, I'm not sure how to take it. I'll just assume that Lee has called everyone "sexual dinosaurs", which I assume means that I'm the only one here with a non-extinct mojo.
 

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Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
They say the meek...something...something...
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
...are lightly salted?

Oh, wait. That's later in the chapter...
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
The full quote is "the meek shall inherit the Earth, because they're not getting any right now." 8)
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Five months of let myself get my hopes up, and she's been seeing someone for two years. I never had a chance to begin with. Gods, I'm an idiot...
 

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Posted by The Antagonist (Member # 484) on :
 
Ouch... sorry to hear that, Tim.

I guess you should just be thankful you don't have Major Barcalow's luck with women. *lol*
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
And Antag, the only male on the planet who doesn't want two chicks at a time, thanks his stars daily he doesn't have Shik's purported luck. 8)
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 

"...be thankful you don't have Major Barcalow's luck with women."

I would say that his experineces have nothing to do w/ luck, and everything to do w/ he's an idiot. :-)
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Yeah, but plenty of idiots get lucky.
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Yeah, well... They suck.
 

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
No, usually it's the women with the idiots who suck, not the idiots themselves. If the idiots themselves could suck themselves, there would be more women available for you and me.
 

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Posted by Pos_21 (Member # 757) on :
 
i have to say that i think you all are biased twords men. listen to yourselves... well, i guess i shouldn't expect anything better from men.
 

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
The plot thickens...
 

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
Don't use so much cornstarch, Tom. If you just use a pinch of it, the plot with stay smooth and runny. It'll be on the perfect consistency for mash potatoes and Salisbury steak.
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
The man train certainly does favour a bias towards men. Hence the name.
 

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Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
Though "mixing the carriages" would also work.

(Thou all speakest in such colorful metaphores)
 

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Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
Might have to use one of those adaptor thingies, but I don't see where it wouldn't work at least in theory. Of course, an argument could (and likely would) be made that it violates the very principle of the mantrain...
 

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Posted by Nevod (Member # 738) on :
 
Pointing out to thing with sucking idiots and crazy womans...

Well, my idea that mens always think about what they should not think about now. Instead, they think about wrong things, such as quantum physics or morality when it's time to flirt. Idiots can't think so they get womans.The only way to get woman is to get really drunk or be unable to think or such. While womans are schizophrenis so they're uncapable of seeing consequences and stuff.

Dammit, we have no hope.
 

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Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
 
Not unless you have a fully stocked bar in your home or pocket.
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Or a deep, desperate belief that occasionally, just occasionally, the nice guy will win.

It's been about as frequent as Liverpool playing interesting football, but like Sunday, it does sometimes happen.
 

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
Welp, that means I'm pretty much doomed. How much is it to ride the Man Train?
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Update: I'll be working with her on a project soon, and I'm hoping I can start a conversation with this girl and act like nothing happened. That is, unless she decides to only talk with my friend who is working on this project, too, in which case she'll hear all about Gundam...
 

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Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
 

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Originally posted by Veers:
That is, unless she decides to only talk with my friend who is working on this project, too, in which case she'll hear all about Gundam...

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She'll thank you when you save her just as he gets into the facinating subject of Heero + Duo.
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
*finds thread*
Ah, there we go. Well, I talked to her again today, the first time since I asked her out. She talked to me back and it looks like things are okay for now... It's sort of like she has no memory of what I did.
I'm hoping to talk to her again tomorrow.
 

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Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
Well, might as well share my story.

I have a rather attractive female friend who by reasons that I don't remember isn't going to our senior prom with her boyfriend. So, I asked her if I could go with her, so she would still have a date. Well, turns out that a friend of hers said he'd go with her. And I found out she wasn't going with her boyfriend yesterday! I should have acted faster. Oh well. Apparently this other guy might be getting hooked up with someone, and she said that if he does, she'll let me know. ^_^
 

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Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Well, may as well toss my hat into the ring...

First off, I don't measure my success with women by how many dates I get. I measure it by simple emotional attachment, and there is a girl that I'm extremely attached to. We're talking adopted-little-sister level affection. I honestly think I could marry this girl and live happily for the rest of my life. However, due to certain circumstances (which shall remain forever unclear to all reading this, so don't ask), I can't tell her that. Fine by me. She's my friend, and I'm quite happy with that. But I found out yesterday that she's moving to SC in three months, after which I may well never see her again.

C'est la vie...
 

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
I went on a date recently. It was fun. End of my story.

Or: I got the woman love. (But not in that way...)
 

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Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
I'd tell you a story...

...if I ever went out on a date...
 

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Posted by Tora Ziyal (Member # 53) on :
 
To those who think nice guys don't get the girls: perhaps you're looking in the wrong place. (That or maybe you don't act as nice as you think you are.)

One of my roommates always complains about how there are no nice guys in the world. She's had some short relationships that might be really great for a few days and then go down the drain. She has a lot of friends and go out every weekend, but no luck with guys. Well, she hangs out with people who like get drunk and smoke pot and go to frat parties where the only thing guys want is sex, so of course she wouldn't find too many nice guys in that setting. Me, I don't have a lot of guy friends, but every one of them is nice and some even mature. And I wouldn't touch the frat parties with a ten-foot pole. It all depends on where you find them.

Basically, be yourself and find an environment you're comfortable with. If you hate clubs and go clubbing so you can find a girl, you're not gonna have much luck. Or if you do, it's unlikely she's going to be your type.

That's all I have to say about that.
 

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Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
 
Well I'm in pretty much the same situation as Veers (well actually, apart from the lovesick teen bit It's rather different but I couldn't think of a better way to begin this post); I asked a girl out some time ago and she said no. She thenstarted ignoring me completely. This went on for a little while before she started talking to me again. This went on for a few months; we were quite friendly (talking regularly + e-mailing almost every day) but now she's suddenly started to ignore me again. Her best friend assures me she isn't trying to be cruel but...
 

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Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
The girl I'm talking about seems to have forgotten I asked her out a month ago. She seems very (well, not VERY) anxious to talk to me.
Not conversations, of course, just staying stuff to me. But she's not avoiding me or not talking to me.
 

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Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
RE: the whole nice-guy / bad-boy thing.

Exercise: Ask 10 random women whether they'd want Luke or Han.

"I'm nice men."-Han Solo
 

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Ask 10 men and you'd get the same response.
 

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Posted by Wraith (Member # 779) on :
 

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Originally posted by Veers:
The girl I'm talking about seems to have forgotten I asked her out a month ago. She seems very (well, not VERY) anxious to talk to me.
Not conversations, of course, just staying stuff to me. But she's not avoiding me or not talking to me.

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