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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

As more reports filter in from Colorado, it appears that many of the killed and wounded were not injured with guns, but with the pipe bombs used by the maniacs.

Now, since pipe bombs and their use are already illegal, further steps must be taken.

I propose a pipe-control program. There are entirely too many pipes around where the average person can get their hands on them. I've seen children playing with pipes. A lot of people keep pipes in their house, unknowingly risking their lives and the lives of their families.. who knows what could happen if those pipes were to fall into the wrong hands, or to be used unwisely?

We should have a ban on private ownership of pipes. We should have a cash for pipes exchange program, to get people to take pipes out of their house and give them to the authorities. Plus we need to educate more people on the dangers of pipes and pipe use.

Pipes are bad.

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Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :

That may be fine and dandy, but how many of those killed were killed by pipe bombs?

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Posted by Trinculo on :

at least one of the pipe bombs had nails. the nails are projected with the fragments of the bomb and can cause injury and death.

Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :

The difference is that building a pipe bomb is already a criminal act (or isn't it in the USA?), not only using it. There is a long way from conceiving and constructing one (I wouldn't know how) to the eventual crime, while getting a gun seems a lot easier (also morally). Only real criminals planning their deeds for a long time do use pipe bombs, so what would your ironic proposal help? I don't really see your point.

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Posted by Simon on :

I think the only solution to the problem of pipe bomb proliferation is to give them to everybody. Make them completly legal and easy to come by and I'm sure pipe bomb crimes will decrease. As well to prevent a return to our current situation we must entrench the right to own pipe bombs in the constitution.

Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :

I suggest we just ignore the problem, and blame in on the Americans. Oh, wait...

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

First of Two's message was satire, of course. I mean, you could even bludgeon someone to death with a pipe...

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Posted by Trinculo on :

Bernd
On the web there are directions for making every kind of bomb-small pipe bombs to bombs used in the Oklahoma incident. Print the instructions. Build a bomb very carefully. Use said bomb. How do you think these middle class, unloved children get the information to create bombs? Like you and me, they were residents of the net and found a "room" with information on bombs, nazism, and other hateful, spiteful rhetoric one can imagine.

Posted by Chimaera on :

Well, you could bludgeon someone to death with a gun too, if you really wanted to, or just couldn't find the trigger.

Actually, the funny thing is, as far as I know, Americans don't have the constitutional right to own pipes, so taking them away would actually be easier. Then again, I hear the pipe lobby is quite powerfull in Washington.....

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Posted by Antagonist (Member # 76) on :

Need I say this?

Pipes don't kill people, people kill each other with other people.

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Posted by Coddman (Member # 10) on :

Oh come ON now! . . .

People..........I mean.........o_O.
A PIPE BAN? *LMAO* I can just imagine. These police cars roaming the neighborhood, knocking on people's doors and saying, "Excuse me sir. But you need to give us your pipes. Now.", while the house owner looks on, bemused as hell. *LOLOL* Look. Even if you did take away guns, people could always build more guns. Out of what, you ask? Parts. Just as a pipe is a component in a pipe-bomb....oh, let's say....err, I don't know much about guns. But just as a pipe is a component in a pipe-bomb, an *insert common component of a gun that is used Elsewhere* is a component of a gun. So what are you going tah do? Ban the insert common component of a gun that is used Elsewhere*? HA!.....hehe

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

Cody....it was a joke, dude.

Posted by Xentrick (Member # 64) on :

A ban on pipes?

It'll never work in Scotland!

Posted by Jaresh Inyo on :

Pipes bombs may be illegal already, but I bet it's easier to get your hands on a gun than a pipe bomb down there.

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Posted by Baloo (Member # 5) on :

I suggest an immediate ban on any object that is harder than unfired clay. An amount of such objects sufficiently massive to damage another person with would be so unwieldy that the defender could saunter away unharmed whilst his attacker risked a hernia if he gave chase with his weapon.

Oops! I just remembered something. Our bones are harder than unfired clay! I propose a legal requirement for all persons strong enough to lift a (soft rubber) beer glass be required to wear extensive padding so as to render impact with any part of their body harmless.

C'mon, folks. Just how far are we willing to go before we admit that people are the problem, and people, not laws, are the solution?

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

I say we should set up a program of mandatory counseling sessions for all junior high to college students.

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Posted by Xentrick (Member # 64) on :

Mandatory? This has got Big Brother written all over it.

On the positive side, it'll bring the Far Right and the ACLU together on the same side of an issue.

On the negative side, the last thing the USA needs is another bureaucracy. We can't even operate the ones we already have.