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Posted by StationMaster (Member # 63) on :

Okay - I hate to say this, but why is when anything goes horribly wrong in the world, the media is more than happy to jump in and blame the internet.

Of some 100 MILLION web Sites out there, only 5% of these are related to Warez or Porn.
However as Sky News in the UK showed last night, the rest of the world is more than happy to blame the internet.
Graphics from the Trench Coat Mafia's web site were shown and then a lengthly explanation of how it linked into porn etc continued.
Sky News then went on to portray the Internet as Evil and a vile cess pit of corruption and social disease proving how easy it was to buy guns, find out how to build bombs etc.

In 4 years of living my life on the internet, I have never been so insulted. I don't yearn the knowledge of bomb building - why - I found out at school, before the internet entered my life.

I know how to make napalm (SP?) but do you see me in my garage with a vat making the stuff - no.

If someone want to know how to build a bomb, they can find out. The Internet does list this material, but they dont have to be connected.

I am quite sick of the internet being portrayed as a breeding ground for loonies. By example, everyone here are upstanding, honest people who enjoy company. I mean that.
Are we the only good place out there? No - the are hundreds - no - thousands of sites or areas like this where nice people hang out.
Does the press ever say -
"Hey - I was on this forum the other day and this really nice guy gave me some great advice which changed my life!"
No - because that does not make news. But it does happen.

Welcome to the net - satan's child.

Fuming StationMaster

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :

I agree that the internet is not to blame in this. I do however believe that the ownership of guns has to be restricted. I think it was Liam in another thread who said that here in the UK, you could walk around at night and although it is dangerous in some areas, the likelihood of not getting shot does make you feel a lot better. This is true and I can verify this from personal experience.

There are people (like my housemate) who habitually worry about everything and won't walk home after 10.30, but for the vast majority of people, this feeling is very reassuring.

If you people in the states want guns, have them, but like I said, the ownership would have to be screened a lot more stringently to try to prevent something like the school shootings from happening again.

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Posted by The First One (Member # 35) on :

*hides as the mob goes by with flaming torches in the direction of SM's house*

Posted by The Excalibur (Member # 34) on :

The nesesary information to build the Atom Bomb was in books before the net came along, so lets burn all books too, Starting with "Fahrenheit 451". (will take a turn guarding Station masters home, wish I'd bought the Bumper thing from the other thread.)

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Posted by Orion Syndicate (Member # 25) on :

*lol@Excalibur*

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It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious.

Posted by Simon on :

Whenever anything like this happens people try to find something to blame. Our papers here are blamming the event on "The Matrix". As well as other movies and the internet. They are looking for easy solutions to deep societal problems, and the media is a easy target.

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

My mother blames my supposed "corruption" on the internet. The fact that I'm bi-sexual and have a different belief system, to her, couldn't possibly have come about if I hadn't gone online. That's why when I go home I won't have the 'net anymore, because according to her it "Brings the devil into the house, corrupts innocent children, and encourages my satanic behaviour" ...

Nice, eh?

Well, I was bi-sexual all my life, and she should have recognized that when I started looking at porno magazines LONG before we had the net. As for the Wiccan stuff, I learned about it IRL, and it's not my fault if the best free resources are on the 'net.

We are not a bunch of loonies and crazies out here. I have met a good deal of very decent people, this community being a small bit of them. The problem is, as always, no one wants to print the good stuff about anything .. they only want to print the bad stuff.

*SIGH*

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Posted by Antagonist (Member # 76) on :

Sure, of course they blame the internet, because when they hear of whackos wearing trenchcoats and sporting "counter-culture"-like clothing, they think of today's youth, and today's youth are mostly some way involved into the Internet.

Then when they think of the internet they think of their versions of hackers. You know, the image the media puts into their heads. And everybody knows that hackers are satan's children, that gather into hordes in the streets to deal drugs, etc. *sarcastic tone*

I to know how to make a variety of various weapons. So what? It is a skill that I picked up. Big whoop, like I'm crazy enough to use it on innocent people for bitter revenge.

As for Jubilee's problem with parents...
They always look for the new things that are "controversial." Yes, mother, the internet has poisoned my mind, yet I seem to be doing well in school and staying out of trouble.

56k is the devil!!
Phones are the devil!
Oh no.. *hands on cheeks*..books spread truth, they must tell people to believe in free will, burn them! :P

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Just remember, witches are made of wood and small stones float.

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

With all due respect Jubes, I think your mom's a bit loony.

Then again, half MY family is evangelical fundamental Church-of something-or-other, or the more radical type of Mormons, or... yadda-yadda-yadda... makes it almost impossible for me to go to family functions, as I have to hold my tongue while some cousin or another spouts loudly off some inanity, for fear of causing everybody else "discomfort" and embarassing my mom.

You know I had one guy say that evolution was false because the speed of light was slowing down, causing the galaxies' apparent redshift?

Now, besides the fact that the two concepts aren't at all related, there are logic holes in that statement you could toss Jupiter through.
F'r instance, at the rate he claimed, everything would have redshifted so far so fast our eyes couldn't keep up with it, plus he obviously forgot the fact that light is only one little bit of the electromagnetic spectrum, and what does for light would do for everything else, and things that rely on electromagnetism would stop working (like microwaves, radios, X-rays, etc.)

But simple logic never stops raging faith.

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Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :

I assure you, First, you ain't the only one thinking Jubes' mother's a nut.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Let us test. WE take a simple pair of weighing scales.

On one end we place Jubilee McGann.

On the other end, we place...a duck!

If she weighs the same as a duck, ashe is indeed a witch, and should be BURNNNNEEDD!

First: Eh? I've never heard of Redshift. And how the hell does it apply to evolution. Or is that person you're talking about just very very strange?

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Posted by RW (Member # 27) on :

People who say others are witches that should be vurned should be burned. yes. This includes people who say their children are influenced by (rolls over floor laughing real bad) The Devil *makes scary noises, waves hands about*

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

No offense taken. SHE IS A NUT. She belongs to this weird cult church back home, but doesn't realize it's a cult, and she drives me and my sisters and my father CRAZY!

Oh, and Liam .... I garuntee I weigh aLOT more than a duck ... but if I did, you wouldn't burn me anyways. I mean, come on ... get rid of something THIS gorgeous?

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Posted by Jaresh Inyo on :

This shit has been going for a long time before the Internet existed. If kids get it into their heads to kill, they will. Period. Internet or no Internet, a sick person plus easy access to guns equals a school full of shattered skulls.

However, for global terrorism, the Internet is a tremendous advantage. Has anyone else here seen that page on how to build the nuclear warhead for only a few hundred thousand? Scary.

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Josh: I think they're getting to know each other a bit too well, if you catch my drift.
Me: Oh, I agree. I think they're spending too much time together, that is of course, if you catch my drift.
Asher: I think he's *ucking her, and he's cheating on his wife, and he's risking his marriage, and if his wife finds out about it she'll leave him and take their son, and his life will be ruined. If you catch my drift...

Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Does the nuclear warhead have Intel Inside?

Are you sure you don't way the same as a duck. The logic is pretty convincing...

(look, it should be obvious by now that I can't remember the quote from the movie, and am desperate for someone to fill it in for me. Okay?)

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Posted by Jeff Raven (Member # 20) on :

For Liam, I present the entire Witch Scene.

CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch!
VILLAGER #1: We have found a witch, might we burn her?
CROWD: Burn her! Burn!
BEDEVERE: How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.
BEDEVERE: Bring her forward.
WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE: But you are dressed as one.
WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
CROWD: No, we didn't -- no.
WITCH: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.
BEDEVERE: Well?
VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE: The nose?
VILLAGER #1: And the hat -- but she is a witch!
CROWD: Burn her! Witch! Witch! Burn her!
BEDEVERE: Did you dress her up like this?
CROWD: No, no... no ... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.
VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.
BEDEVERE: What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE: A newt?
VILLAGER #3: I got better.
VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
CROWD: Burn! Burn her!
BEDEVERE: Quiet, quiet. Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
CROWD: Are there? What are they?
VILLAGER #2: Do they hurt?
BEDEVERE: Tell me, what do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2: Burn!
CROWD: Burn, burn them up!
BEDEVERE: And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1: More witches!
VILLAGER #2: Wood!
BEDEVERE: So, why do witches burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3: B--... 'cause they're made of wood...?
BEDEVERE: Good!
CROWD: Oh yeah, yeah...
BEDEVERE: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1: Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEVERE: Aah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
BEDEVERE: Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1: No, no.
VILLAGER #2: It floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!
CROWD: The pond!
BEDEVERE: What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1: Bread!
VILLAGER #2: Apples!
VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1: Cider!
VILLAGER #2: Uhhh, gravy!
VILLAGER #1: Cherries!
VILLAGER #2: Mud!
VILLAGER #3: Churches -- churches!
VILLAGER #2: Lead -- lead!
ARTHUR: A duck.
CROWD: Oooh.
BEDEVERE: Exactly! So, logically...,
VILLAGER #1: If... she.. weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.
BEDEVERE: And therefore--?
VILLAGER #1: A witch!
CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch!
BEDEVERE: We shall use my largest scales!
[yelling]
BEDEVERE: Right, remove the supports!
*the supports are removed, the scales do not move*

CROWD: A witch! A witch!
WITCH: It's a fair cop.
CROWD: Burn her! Burn her!

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Posted by Simon on :

If that is recited that from memory I will be very worried about your mental health.

Posted by Jubilee (Member # 99) on :

Only you, Jeff. Only you.

Liam: Yes, I am QUITE sure I weigh more than a duck.

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Posted by Diane (Member # 53) on :

People like to blame things on the Internet because it's the last form of anarchy.

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Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :

Look at the crazyness here. Threads about chocolate. Does Jubilee weigh the same as a duck. People remembering entire scences from Monty Python Films.

It's complete chaos, and evil. We should all be BURRNNNNEEDDD

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-Chris Morris.

Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

*Inferno* BUUUUUURRRNNN!

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Posted by Curry Monster (Member # 12) on :

Jeff - You da man!

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'Sir, you've been ordered not to take Polermo'

'Ring General HQ, ask them if they want me to give it back'.