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Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
So yup, we learn a lot about Airiam, only to have her die. We didn't get to know her much before this episode, but we learn that she was a really sweet person. I was especially touched by the early scene where she was deciding which memories to back up. It was really telling which memories she decided to keep; including one just of Michael smiling at her.

So "Brainiac" was/is/will be Section 31's Control. Since Control is an AI, I'm guessing that our heroes can't just blow up Section 31 HQ to end the threat.

And why exactly did Starfleet allow a known logic extremist to program it's threat assessment AI?

Spock continues to be a jerk. I'm really hoping by the end of the season we can chalk this up to his mindmelding with the Red Angel and that he'll get back to his usual self.

All in all, I really liked this episode. The Spock stuff was meh, but everything else was really good.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
This whole "logic extremist" thing is like the biggest load of fwe I've seen. What's the fucking point here?
 
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
 
Perhaps it's their meta way to attack continuity and plot-hole critics, just as the first season MQGA-hat faux-Klingons were meant to mess with Trumpsuckers.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
wut
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Shik:
wut

^What he said.
 
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
 
A half-joke, there, dead because it has to be explained:

1. Season 1 Klingons were supposed to allegorically represent Trump supporters, per an interview with Aaron Harberts.

1A. A derogatory term for Trump supporters is Trumpsuckers, a bit of a double-entendre suggesting they were snookered by Trump and may also have the Cheeto-dust of passion upon their lips due to their strong feelings for him.

1B. "Remain Klingon" was their "Make America Great Again". That's MAGA, which I changed from America to Q'onoS . . . MQGA.

2. The "logic extremists" group may also have a parallel, allegorical meaning.

2A. Because the writers chose as an allegorical foe a real-world group they didn't like before, it stood to reason these terrorist "logic extremists" might also be some group the writers might despise and enjoy satirizing/allegorizing.

2B. Of the choices I could make for humor, the notion that the Star Trek Discovery writers would allegorize/satirize fans of all-but-Discovery . . . representing critics who insist on antiquated notions like continuity and internally-consistent plots and characterization (the bastards!) . . . struck me as particularly amusing.

3. I used "meta" a bit loosely insofar as having it be a thing commenting on its own fans rather than itself.

Hence:

"Perhaps it's their meta way to attack continuity and plot-hole critics, just as the first season MQGA-hat faux-Klingons were meant to mess with Trumpsuckers."

Make more sense now? Sorry for any confusion.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
No. It decidedly does not make any sense at all.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
I get what you're saying. Perhaps the logic extremists are the end result of the introduction of IDIC from Enterprise. To paraphrase, they went full logic. You never go full logic.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fabrux:
To paraphrase, they went full logic. You never go full logic.

I love you guys.
 


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