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Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
Yup, Nickelodeon's Star Trek cartoon is going to be Star Trek: Prodigy.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Ugh, just what we need, a ship of Wesleys.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Ooh, ver Prodge!

Owwwwwww... eeyow
Owwwwwww... eeyow
On the... Firestarter! USS Firestarter!
It’s that class you hated, Eaves-defecated!
On the... Firestarter! USS Firestarter!
He’s the instigator, named it after an aviator!
(hey! hey! hey!)
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
A fucking plus plus PLUS, Lee.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
So, a bunch of kids find a defunct Starfleet starship, get it working and go out and have adventures? Five Go Mad In Deep Space? With lashings of Romulan Ale? Granted this joke only makes sense if you’re aware of the 80s UK TV show The Comic Strip Presents...

More seriously though, I’m wondering if this will be set during the long interregnum between PIC and DSC s3. It seems to me that a “defunct Starfleet starship” only becomes noteworthy if there’s no Starfleet or Federation anymore. After all we don’t know what happens to retired/decommissioned ships; presumably they’re reclaimed in an environmentally-friendly manner. And how large will this ship be? Nothing really large but presumably but more than a runabout, know what I mean?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"After all we don’t know what happens to retired/decommissioned ships..."

Well, we know that sometimes they get put in a scrapyard, à la "Unification". Also, more relevantly, there's what happened to the Stargazer : Picard and crew abandoned ship and said "eh, it probably blew up after we left, right?" and it just floated in space for years.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Sometimes I wonder if that’s what ex-Flareites think. They often seem far too surprised to find we’re still here when they return after a long absence.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lee:
Sometimes I wonder if that’s what ex-Flareites think. They often seem far too surprised to find we’re still here when they return after a long absence.

Here I am having to write “LOL” like a 90s-era caveman instead of just using a heart or “haha” tapback. [Big Grin]

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the ship the kids commandeer will be a derelict from the Dominion War. That implies but doesn’t require that it’s set in the late 24th century like the other new shows... though I suppose it could be set later, if kids flying around in an antique spaceship makes any (more) sense.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lee:
Sometimes I wonder if that’s what ex-Flareites think. They often seem far too surprised to find we’re still here when they return after a long absence.

21 years and counting. My Flare account is old enough to drink now.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
quote:
Originally posted by Lee:
Sometimes I wonder if that’s what ex-Flareites think. They often seem far too surprised to find we’re still here when they return after a long absence.

Here I am having to write “LOL” like a 90s-era caveman instead of just using a heart or “haha” tapback. [Big Grin]

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the ship the kids commandeer will be a derelict from the Dominion War. That implies but doesn’t require that it’s set in the late 24th century like the other new shows... though I suppose it could be set later, if kids flying around in an antique spaceship makes any (more) sense.

The implication being that finding & fixing an abandoned war-loss starship is the same as restoring an old Camaro you found in a barn.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
Well yes, precisely. If still a going concern, where will Starfleet be in all this? Presumably they're going to have an opinion about a bunch of teenagers digging up a long-lost starship, on which it's likely people died, so as to be able to get girls. And you just know that the characters are going to be all perky and, well, there's no getting away from it, excessively American about it all. Manifest destiny, self-expression, all that guff. Ugh.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
"American Graffiti" in space
 
Posted by 137th Gebirg (Member # 2692) on :
 
Don’t know about “perky”. Most teenager-based shows I’ve seen are full of insufferable angst-ridden artificial drama. The upcoming “World Beyond” TWD spin-off follows a similar premise, a bunch of teenagers trying to survive during the zombie apocalypse. Don’t know if I want to see it or not, but I’ve been following the other two WD shows and I figure I’ll give it a chance, but my expectations are low... like subterranean low.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
OK well that's boring. The USS Protostar, NX-76884, therefore Protostar-class.

Registry puts it after the USS ibn Majid NCC-75710, but before the tranche of Luna-class vessels - or before the one canon one, USS Titan NCC-80102

https://twitter.com/MariusJacobs16/status/1418625888967659522?s=20

It's just feasible it could be the same class as the ibn Majid (if you ignire the registry, anyway). Only front and rear views in the new teaser trailer, showing it to have Sovereign and Interpid lineage I'd suggest, so consistent-ish for the time period the registry aligns to.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
I have so much to say, I don't know where to start.
 
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
I'm of two minds on that ship name. On the one hand, the rational part of my brain thinks that we've had ship classes named after astronomical phenomena before (Nebula, Galaxy, etc.) and sees nothing wrong with it. But the aesthetic part of my brain just doesn't think it sounds like a ship name.

The ship looks pretty good though.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Looks like it's a relatively small ship? Can't see what's going on on the underside, but the top half looks like maybe four or five decks?

Not really a fan of the Abramsverse-looking nacelles or the bridge (?) that's almost entirely glass.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
I like the design of the ship, from what little we’ve seen. The fore-aft profile looks a little simplistic, almost diamond-shaped. I agree it looks like about a 5- or 6-deck upper saucer, which suggests a ship slightly larger than a Nova but definitely smaller than an Intrepid.

It’s hard to see for sure, but yeah, it definitely looks like there’s plenty of windows on the bridge. Which doesn’t bother me as much when it’s not a glaring anachronism. (Abrams and Disco) After all, the Enterprise-E had a blank wall with a holographic viewscreen, so why not just have windows instead? It makes just as much sense as having the whole bridge exposed at the top of the ship anyhow. [Wink]
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Soooo...set in the Delta Quadrant...in 2383. But, there's a whole-ass recent-build Starfleet ship just, y'know...sitting there. Plus there's a Medusan & a Tellarite that looks nothing like a Tellarite. In the Delta Quadrant. And a holo-Janeway. And they're making more novelverse shit canon with this Brikar thing.

My butthole is spasming.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
Oh no! They’re bringing names and aliens from the novels into canon! I’m sure Hikaru Sulu and Nyota Uhura would never stand for that.

Considering that there’s a Talaxian now settled down over 40,000 light years from his homeworld and Humans who observed the Borg in the Delta Quadrant in the 2350s, I can think of all sort of possible ways for a Tellarite to make it it out that far from home. And Starfleet misplaces its shit all the time, I have no trouble believing it lost a prototype, especially if it was testing a new propulsion system. (Just guessing there.)
 
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by MinutiaeMan:
Considering that there’s a Talaxian now settled down over 40,000 light years from his homeworld

At least we know how Neelix got there. We never did get an explanation as to how all the other Talaxians crossed the entire quadrant.

Plus we don't know that this initial world they're all escaping from is in the Delta Quadrant. Could be that Starfleet built the prototype ship, lost it in the Alpha/Beta Quadrant, the kids find it, engage the drive again, and wind up in the Delta Quadrant.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Krenim:
At least we know how Neelix got there. We never did get an explanation as to how all the other Talaxians crossed the entire quadrant.

True, except that if it were a one-off character, many nitpickers wouldn’t find “Neelix hitchhiked 40,000 light years in 7 years” to be a satisfactory answer. There’s a lot of weird stuff that happens in Trek, but we often expect it to all be explained perfectly and on-screen. [Wink]
quote:
Plus we don't know that this initial world they're all escaping from is in the Delta Quadrant. Could be that Starfleet built the prototype ship, lost it in the Alpha/Beta Quadrant, the kids find it, engage the drive again, and wind up in the Delta Quadrant.
Agreed. We can’t make too many assumptions yet.
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
After all the Discovery monstrosities it's good to finally see something familiar again. Not too keen on the name.

The animation looks amazing.
 
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
Prodigy Main Title Sequence

Music's nice.

I'm not wowed by the visuals. The Protostar travelling by/in/past representations of the main characters, I think?

The Protostar seems to have two different modes. The second mode looks very Dauntless-esque, so we might very well be dealing with a quantum slipstream drive.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
Agreed, the music is excellent. I wasn’t surprised to see it was composed by Michael Giacchino.

The visuals seem a bit “simple” but it feels right… and presumably will look better with the actual text appearing. And personally, I prefer it to the design student’s orgasm that is the Discovery credits.

Edit: The scenes the ship is flying though are the main characters! I can’t believe I didn’t spot that. I like it a lot more knowing that.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
The one with the ENT theme is better. The music is meh.
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
The Janeway hologram should wear a FC or LD uniform as the ship's clearly not from the DS9/VOY jumpsuit era.
 
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
The Janeway hologram should wear a FC or LD uniform as the ship's clearly not from the DS9/VOY jumpsuit era.

I dunno, I think it fits. Janeway at her most (in)famous. Let's say the training hologram resembled Kirk instead of Janeway. Could you really picture holo-Kirk wearing any uniform besides either the TOS or WoK one?
 


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