Still pretty busy, but I'll try to cover the highlights.
Sonya Gomez! And she's a captain! And she's voiced by her original actress! And she's credited as a Special Guest Star! God bless you, Mike McMahon. GOD. BLESS. YOU.
Cetacean Ops! God bless... oh wait, already said that.
Freeman finally gets that promotion she's been gunning for all season, and the Cerritos crew is NOT happy she's leaving. Freeman finally decides she wants to stay with her crew and goes to turn down the promotion... only to be arrested for the destruction of Pakled Planet! (It's the Pakleds. Let's face it, they blew themselves up.)
Seems there's a lot more to Rutherford's implant than meets the eye, if his memory of the Secret Board of Shadow Figures is any indications.
Nova! Now I see why the ship just got a visual update in STO.
That's all I can think of for now; I need to get ready for work. But bring on Season 3!
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
NAKED. STARSHIP.
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shik: NAKED. STARSHIP.
*Shaxs voice* IT'S NAKED TIME!!!!!
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I’m not sure I can add any more superlatives, but damn if this wasn’t amazing. Of *course* Mike McMahan would bring back those loved and dreaded words, “To Be Continued…”
From the moment we saw Captain Gomez, I felt like I should know her, but didn’t recognize the voice and the animation style isn’t close enough to recognize people unless you already know who they are. (Even Riker, Troi, and Paris.) But when I saw the credits, I literally facepalmed, I should’ve realized who she was. (I just read an interview where McMahan calls formerly-Ensign Gomez a lower decker, which is so true.) The callback to “a much more intimidating Captain” should’ve been a dead giveaway, which made the scene even sweeter in retrospect.
Cetacean Ops was awesome and the whales (in uniforms) were hilarious. Apparently the whales have a thing for skinny dipping? Now I’m even more mad that Tendi interrupted Barnes’ and Rutherford’s date.
And now that Cetacean Ops has been seen, we’ve got a new even more obscure reference for a running joke… the rubber ducky room! Perfect Lower Decks humor to take an effectively invisible in-joke from the Enterprise-D MSD and mention it in dialogue.
I fully expect that Hero Collector will be doing a “naked Cerritos” model at some point.
So many ships in the last scene! It’s always a treat to see Starfleet being, you know, a *fleet*.
…Wait, it’s HOW LONG until the next episode?! Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Those were porpoises, not whales.
I loved the rubber ducky room ref, too.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Mike M. confirmed they're Beluga whales, not dolphins.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Ugh, then he needs to draw his cetaceans better.
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
So.... Excelsior-class with Sovereign-class nacelles? Either way, cool looking ship.
Posted by 137th Gebirg (Member # 2692) on :
Obena Class Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Even the bridge design plays tribute to the Excelsior bridge (as seen in ST6): the master systems display behind the captain's position, and the TNG-style Ops/Conn positions, along with their positioning.
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
Yes, it looks cool but at the end of the day it's not inspired by the Excelsior-class but a kitbash. So much that even the offical website called it an Excelsior-class.
Nostalgia is the only reason why Starfleet would design the ship as it is, and that just rubs me the wrong way.
Overall, it seems to be marketing ploy. The Excelsior is a fan favourite, and I suppose the eventual Eaglemoss model of the Obena will sell quite well.
The Nova looked a bit off, no? Any ideas what the background ship was?
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I think it’s fine that the Obena looks similar to the Excelsior. After all, there must be principles of warp dynamics and hull integrity and so on that make reusing basic designs sensible. And even though the arrangement and proportions are similar, it doesn’t look like a kitbash to me, it looks like a bespoke ship whose shape happens to be very similar. (Exhibit A: USS Ford and USS Nimitz IRL.)
In fairness, I suspect it’s the near-identical appearance of the warp nacelles to the Sovereign that might make you feel it’s a kitbash. But I think they made just enough changes to the rest of the ship (from an art perspective) to make it feel like it’s a new design in-universe and not a rebuild.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
A better analogy might be a WW2 Jeep, and a modern Wrangler, where there is clearly a more modern design which plays homage to the original.
Posted by o2 (Member # 907) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spike: The Nova looked a bit off, no? Any ideas what the background ship was?
It if was a Nova at all... To me it looked like a post-Nemesis design, based on the Nova class, but this does not make much sense, since the Nova class was already a new design in the 2370s.
Are you refering to the background ship that was below the Oberth class? Some source claims it is an Antaris freighter, but I cannot imagine any reason why Starfleet should send a ship from a past century to this mission. Am I wrong or does this ship has 4 red bussard collectors and hence 4 warp nacelles?
Posted by o2 (Member # 907) on :
Oh, and the shuttle from 'Veritas' with the registry NCC-77567 is quickly passing by as well.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
quote:Originally posted by 137th Gebirg: Obena Class
After watching YouTube follow-up videos, I stand corrected. I also remember the Capt. Freeman line about ships coming out of spacedock looking like a Sovereign-class.
It would make sense to upgrade the Excelsior-class nacelles over the years. When you think about it... "Oh cool, it's the late 24th century but you're using nacelles from a century ago. Try to keep up. Also my grandpa played jacks behind the soda shop, when you're done taking us to warp you should join him."
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
quote:Originally posted by Hobbes:
quote:Originally posted by 137th Gebirg: Obena Class
After watching YouTube follow-up videos, I stand corrected. I also remember the Capt. Freeman line about ships coming out of spacedock looking like a Sovereign-class.
It would make sense to upgrade the Excelsior-class nacelles over the years. When you think about it... "Oh cool, it's the late 24th century but you're using nacelles from a century ago. Try to keep up. Also my grandpa played jacks behind the soda shop, when you're done taking us to warp you should join him."
Not sure why the double post... MOD!!! I NEED A MOD. DELETE THE DOUBLE POST! Now! It will give you butthole herpes if you don't. You don't want that. Imagine a Taco Bell shit times 90000.... that plus one.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Once again, I have to state that what nacelles look like on the outside has nothing to do with drive capability. It's just a housing & cosmetics play no part. It's what's inside that matters.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
So just a fun note: but currently on Paramount+, this episode is listed as "First Contact" and not "First First Contact." (The title card remains correct).
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