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Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Okay, so I'll leave the plot summaries to others, but there was a LOT of ref dropping here, & not so subtly:

• "Yesterday's Enterprise"!
• "Through A Mirror, Darkly"!
• Dukat!
• Martok!
• Sisko!
• Sarek!

Speaking of the last, the Vulcan ships being blown away by Rios' squad are the same ones used by DiscoSarek in that show's S1 & 2.

The First Contact Borg music cues when Picard & the Queen meet were a nice touch. Repurposing a very identifiable modern Hong Kong as alt-future Okinawa was not.

Elnor is the biggest fucking himbo around.

Where is Soji? Will that have to do with Adam Soong in the past? Interesting casting note: alt-Seven's hubby, the Magistrate of Earth (weird-as title) is played by Jon Jon Briones—the brother of Isa Briones.
 
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
 
Soji hooks up with Adam, creating the mother of modern humanity, because all this has happ . . . wait, wrong franchise.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
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the Magistrate of Earth (weird-as title) is played by Jon Jon Briones—the brother of Isa Briones.
Well, that's creepy since he's also her father.

Not that I put much thought into it, but I always figured Ferengi ears were mostly cartilage.

General Ben Sisko? Or General Jake Sisko?
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Was it her dad? I thought...never mind.

Geberal Joe Sisko!
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
For me, I loved the cat voiced by Patton Oswalt. I was like, "Is that fucking Patton Oswalt in Star Trek?!"
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
{Wayne} Was it realleh? {/Wayne}
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
I think he’s been in just about everything genre or pop-culturally significant but a Star War at this point. And Doctor Who. He clocks up those, he’s basically eclipsed W. Morgan Shepherd. Probably already has if anyone cares to run the numbers.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
Yeah I get it... I just never thought I'd see or hear Oswalt in Trek. Maybe that's just me. Also the fact the hologram animated cat was named Spot - 73 after the E-D's unofficial mascot cat.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Even with his holograms, it was weird that Rios didn't have a crew on La Sirena in this episode.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
It was weird that an obvious freighter was being used as a fighter, TBH. There are some very odd decisions being made all round, so far; but I’ll reserve judgement (and accounting) until later in the season, in case they turn out to have reasons for being so.
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
I also loved the shoutouts, both to in-universe characters and even the meta episode titles (cheesy though they were). There were apparently a few other shoutouts in the president’s intelligence briefing according to Twitter:

Field officer for the Andorian rebellion: Lt. Colonel Tasha Yar
Field officer for the Dominion Alliance war: General Miles O’Brien
Vulcan leader: Fleet Commander Tuvok

I also wondered what the heck a fleet of freighters was doing in a dogfight. I could see the design maybe adapted as troop and equipment transports for orbital assault and landing. But regardless, it made no sense for Rios to be flying the ship alone and empty.
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
So the Kaplan F17 freighers are patrol frigates in the Confederation timeline:

CSS Cetus NCC-93130
CSS La Sirena NCC-93131
CSS Hydra NCC-93135
CSS Charybis NCC-93137
CSS Makara NCC-93142
CSS Selkie NCC-93147
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/CbGMCZvvicx/?utm_medium=share_sheet

The scull collection in detail:
Gul Dukat (Cardassian)
Director Sarek (Vulcan)
Grand Nagus Zek (Ferengi)
Chieftain M'Talas (Lihn Zhee)
General Martok (Klingon)
Commodore Y'Shi (Saurian)
One of Two (Borg Sentinel)

I like the green tint of the Vulcan scull, but strongly dislike the Disco Klingon for Martok.

Also 4 additional Kaplan frigates:

CSS Cetus NCC-93130
CSS La Sirena NCC-93131
CSS Hydra NCC-93135
CSS Charybis NCC-93137
CSS Makara NCC-93142
CSS Selkie NCC-93147
CSS Kappa NCC-93154
CSS Ahuizotl NCC-93159
CSS Zin Kibaru NCC-93161
CSS Scylla NCC-93165
 


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