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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Some of you think "Enterprise" is going to be a good show.

Some of you think "Enterprise" is going to be crap.

Some people in both groups are discussing their opinions.

Some people in both groups think people in the other group are shitheads because of the fact that they disagree.

Stop flaming each other for no reason just because you disagree about the new series. If you can't handle the fact that someone disagrees w/ you on something, stop reading the threads that discuss those topics. I'm not going to claim I haven't been somewhat harsh to people about these things myself. People are adamant about what they percieve as good or bad signs about "Enterprise". I'm not saying there can't be arguements about it. Even slightly heated ones, perhaps. But the unprovoked insults are getting out of hand. Stop it. Now.
 


Posted by Wes1701E (Member # 212) on :
 
I made a similar post here: http://flare.solareclipse.net/cgi2/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=000057

I completely agree with TSN, although I have been guilty of getting a bit too angry at those who flame me for my "calm the fuc* down" additude.
 


Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
Tim makes a good point.

I'll even go on and say it: I'm guilty of this, too. I don't think I've gone so far as some of the stuff I'm seeing at the moment, but I was clearly crossing the line quite a few times. I began to recognize that at about noon yesterday, so I've bowed out of all the Enterprise threads for the moment. It'll give me time to cool down and think clearly about all of this.

If I've offended anyone, please accept my sincerest apologies.
 


Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
And, on a related note, can we try and keep the threads about Enterprise seperate? If we're having a thread saying it looks a bit like an Akira, let's keep at about whether it does or not.. If it's a thread about the time-travel part, let's talk about that. If it's about the characters, let's talk about that.

Because at the moment, 90% of the threads on the Enterprise forum have degenerated into:

"Continuity is being ignored!"

"Continuity is being worshipped!"

And then people are just going on random rants. Most of the threads about Enterprise are useless at the moment, because everyone's shouting the same thing in all of them.
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Well, most threads are like that, anyway, really... :-)
 
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
 
Yes, the threads have a nice meandering quality, like the gun control/Kira's sex life/something else thread, that was a good one...
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Oh, I don't mind meandering threads at all. It's just these are all meandering to the same point.

Besides, they're not meandering. They're just stopping and starting.

"Apparently, there will be a chair on the Enterprise."

Why are they having Klingons on Enterprise? I guess Mr Berman wants to piss all over Gene Roddenberry, cause he doesn't care about continuity. Enterprise will be awful. Evolution didn't happen".

Or vice-versa.
 


Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
I thought I would bring this thread back into play, because I have an observation to make. TSN's comments were made BEFORE Enterprise was even shown. Now that it is currently running, I find that people here are still acting just like how TSN described.

I post on this board because the people here tend to have much more thought-out, meaningful, civilized discussions & debates about Star Trek, the show for which all our agreements or disagreements aside, we all love. I may not agree with your opinions, and you may not agree with mine, but we should at least be respectful of other people's opinions. If people like Bernd and Masao have honest opinions about this new show which contradict the opinions of other people, that's fine. But lately I've noticed that some people are just being downright rude to others, and I'm not feeling very comfortable about it.

Bernd isn't saying that just because he's unhappy with the Akiraprize or the fact that they used a D7, that he hates Star Trek. Quite the opposite. He cares a great deal about ST, just like I do. Just look at his website.

I will always be of the opinion that the NX-01 is a blatant rip-off of the Akira. Another person here sees no resemblance whatsoever between the two ships. Neither one of us is going to convince the other, but there's nothing wrong with debating about it in a civilized manner.

And if you want to disagree with everything I've just said here, that's fine with me too.
 


Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
Hihi, I wonder how long it would take for *this* thread to dissapear into the big gaping Enterprise hole.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
Speaking of the Enterprise forum, is it going to get a moderator?

I remember a long while ago the admins were looking for new mods, which included me as a canidate. I know the whole "If you have to ask, it's not going to happen." rule, but I still wouldn't mind giving it a shot. It is of course up to Capps...
 


Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Hobbes: When the last time you saw a government resolve something quickly?

We've been moving on filling the mod spaces, though with about the same speed as the Northern Ireland Peace Process.
 


Posted by MIB (Member # 426) on :
 
I'll gladly accept the near-god-like powers that comes with being a moderator. MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! *evil grin*
 
Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :
 
*THWACKK!!*

No, I'm not angling for the job. He just needed thwacked.
 


Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
 
So far, the level of vitriol in the Enterprise forum isn't too far out of control. The current moderators and administrators as well as most of the regular posters are doing a fine job on keeping things civil in there. However, if flare-ups like the current kind or more severe are to be expected for however long Enterprise runs, then we're going to need a permanent board authority presence stationed there (so to speak).

As far as the current situation is going, I don't mind that there are people who do not like the design of the Enterprise. I understand the reasons for this hatred, but in no way do I agree with them. What is really bugging me is the constant slandering of any aspect of the show for the sole purpose of carping about it. There really isn't a need to slide in a snide remark; it's basically just a "look at me; I'm mad" comment that usually adds nothing of merit to the conversation. We've had the debates on the design of the Enterprise for months now. For god's sake, we all know how each other feels, let's let the subject die.

The other thing that is irking me to probably a higher degree are the comments about such and such on Enterprise or about Enterprise being a "slap in the face to loyal fans" or the producers "throwing punches at true fans." I take a good amount of offense to those comments. I love Enterprise. I can criticize parts of it because I don't think it's perfect and can do so constructively. But it seems to me that I cannot be considered a "true" or "loyal" fan simply because overall I enjoy Enterprise. Enough with that.
 


Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
Can we make The_Tom mod of Enterprise and keep him in the Flameboard?
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
There is a Plan. Do not panic. The overhead oxygen masks are provided for your comfort.
 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I don't recall panicking, Mr. I Gotta Edit My Post To Not Offend People!
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Jeff: Psah. Concentration of power. Bad. Says so in our invisible Flare constitution. As soon as I had two forums, I'd begin to try and become mod of everything.

So, No.

And don't think this is gonna stop me from locking your Flameboard threads, either, so

[ October 22, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ]


 
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
When was the last time you locked one of my threads ... ?
 
Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
 
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