I noticed this a few years ago.. in the last scene of 'Farpoint', Tasha Yar was wearing one of the TNG miniskirt uniforms. Im thinknig this scene was probably shot first before the decided to put her in a pants uniform? Probably not the best thread starter, but i found it interesting to notice
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
All the times I've watched "Encounter at Farpoint" I have had a feeling that something about Yar's uniform wasn't right. It never dawned on me that she had been raiding Troi's closet before "The Naked Now."
I don't know if this scene was shot last, but I agree with the decision to keep Yar in a typical duty uniform. As the security chief, she'd probably be flashing all of the people behind her. Plus, active security people have this aura around them that shouts utility. I'd think the typical uniform would be better from a combat standpoint than the miniskirt.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
I liked the cutesy idea that, since there was so much equality in the 24th, some guys wore the skirts too (called 'skants') i saw them a lot up until '11001001' i think, then they mercifully got rid of them for everybody (although Pulaski wore a version of one over pants for season 2)
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
I couldn't stand those skirt/skant uniforms at all for either gender. There's always the risk of something being exposed when the ship shudders or if you're on Away missions. How many times didn't we see Uhura's underwear on TOS when the bridge shook?
For a while, I wondered if the costume designers were ever going to bring them back during TNG's run. If they did, I was hoping that it'd come out in a two piece combination (those look too much like nightgowns). A tunic and a longer skirt version or a tunic and a pair of utility shorts would be the best way to bring it back.
Posted by NightWing (Member # 4) on :
Well, I found it a bit odd that several males had a skirt instead of pants, unless they kept with Scottish tradition.
Posted by Jack_Crusher (Member # 696) on :
Maybe those guys *liked* wearing those women's shirts, and nobody gave a second thought to it. Besides, humanity alledgedly has gotten over such silly notions as racial and sexual predjudice.
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
I read somewhere years ago that the uniforms were for either gender - so men could wear skirts or trousers and vice-versa. I would not, however, like to have seen Picard, Riker or Worf in one of the skirts! Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
But Worf looks good in a dress, remember? :-)
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
As noted in the nitpickers guides, the seventh season dress uniforms really didn't look like dresses. The top part wasn't really longer than the jacket of a suit. The second season dress uniforms though did look like skirts (especially since the trousers worn at that time looked like opaque tights).
Posted by David Templar (Member # 580) on :
Think the uniforms in ST:TMP.
'nuff said.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I think it was just an excuse (the TMP uniforms) for William Shatner to get his penis up on a 12" high screen - without it being a porn film! ;o)
Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
Quote: I think it was just an excuse (the TMP uniforms) for William Shatner to get his penis up on a 12" high screen - without it being a porn film!
Whew a, twelve inch high screen. Damn, that's... not really very flattering. 'Course the 12 foot screen wasn't really either...
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
First season TNG had a lot of...gay designs. I can't remember the ep name, but it had a bunch of guys wearing tiny white outfits that barely covered their... stuff.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
"Justice"
It also had a lot of hot girls wearing just as scanty outfits. Not to mention the implication that Tasha got busy with some of those guys.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Dang, Denise Crosby is hot. She seems to have nice lookin' arms too. Got a bigger picture of that?
I didn't think the skant uniforms were all that badly designed...I did think they looked stupid on the men, though. Thank the good lord that Wesley never one....
*shudders*
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
They were impracitcal for the same reason that all short skirts are impractical. If you are the security chief on the flagship of the Federation, you don't want the Alien Badguy Of The Week seeing your knickers everytime you dived out of the way to avoid his phaser fire.
Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
Why wouldn't you? The alien badguy sneaks a look, and you get an opportunity to shoot him.
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
Oh, I totally agree that they would've looked pretty silly on the security chief. They looked pretty silly as military-esque uniforms, period. But they were well designed otherwise. I thought they fit in well as a "Starfleet look"...at least the one they had in the first season of TNG.
But yah...seeing the regulars doing action scenes in them on a regular basis would've been kind of strange.
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
But in the future do people care about people seeing their underwear? Gene was a very underwear minded guy...
The TOS skirts had built in short-shorts anyway, its not like they were letting everything blow in the breeze.. in sure that the TNG skirts would be sensible like that too
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Just trying to picture later uniforms and their version of skirts/skants.
"Resistance is Fut... woahh baby!"
"Resistance is futile, you biological and technological distinctivness (except for those skirts) will be added to our own."
I could just picture Sisko leaping out of his chair on the Defiant to bark orders at the crew, when he realises that his 'skant' was tucked into his underwear at the back ;o)
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
"Why wouldn't you? The alien badguy sneaks a look, and you get an opportunity to shoot him."
For the same reason that Kira doesn't just flash her tits at a bad guy to distract him.
(Saying that, Betty Banner did do that in a PAD written issue of the Incredible Hulk. So SOME heroines will do it).
"But in the future do people care about people seeing their underwear? Gene was a very underwear minded guy..."
Of course, in the two pilots, the women wore trousers. I guess the short skirts was another "concession" he made to get the show on the air. The dirty old man.
"The TOS skirts had built in short-shorts anyway, its not like they were letting everything blow in the breeze."
And you didn't see Uhura's underwear every episode, did you? (At least it matched her uniforms. I wonder if all the crew had department-coded knickers?)
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
The 'underwear' you saw was built into the skirt. Thats why it was the same color. Presumably she wore lacy-underthings beneath it. Or was freeballing.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
If that's the case, I guess there's something about Uhura we never knew...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
The fact that she had a trio of testicles would have been an interesting plot twist.
(You know, that joke works better if you say all the posts out loud).
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
OMG! LOL! I am lauging out loud here - I think everyone else in the house think's I mad! LOL!
Uhura freeballing etc. LOL!
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
If I've said it once, I'll say it again...Uhura likes Fredricks of Hollywood!!!
For people who have seen the pictures of the drawings of possible TNG uniforms in the Art Of Star Trek; imagine instead of the skirts that we see a variation of the standard duty uniform with the long V-neckline that goes near your crotch...
Oh, and what about "Justice" and all those spandex loving people?
