In the background during interviews with Berman and Braga, were some large blueprints of the NX-01. Included were:
A) A top-view with labeled sections
B) A proper side view (and it looks an awful lot like the Loknar class)
C) A side view cutaway. It appeared to me that the ship has about 7 or 8 decks, with a computer core/ODN trunk right below the bridge, as in all SF ships. Alse included was a cutaway of a nacelle. Couldn't make out if it was in TOS (reactors) or in TNG (coils) style.
D) Something resembling a larger, blockier version of a nacelle. Could be an actual NX-01 nacelle, or some previous design or a blueprint for some other CGI-thing.
I'm still waiting for my new PC with TV_capture card, but does anyone have screenshots of this?
Anyway, I saw that the underside of the saucer is the same as on the original Enterprise. It has the well known downwards pointing piramid shape.
Pitty I didn't see the front deflector, but I'll post a description as soon as it's been on screen.
In the first, with the gormless Braga you get the impression of the side view as well the standard, familiar top views, and larger images of the nacelles over his left shoulder.
In the second you have a better view of the Enterprise in the interview with Berman, over his left shoulder. You get a clear indication of the side-on view of the ship to better gage its shape..
I must say that with the new images I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to vote a tentative "ick" to the side view, too. But to be honest, while some of you here might make a big deal about how the thing looks on a 5-view, I'm only gonna care about it in 3D. The Equinox, for instance, looks like shite from the side, but is quite a beautiful ship in full 3D flight.
[ September 16, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
I don't think that the side view can possibly look that bad onscreen.
Launchers in saucer recess they stole from the old non canon Akyazi-class.. yay!
(UPDATE: A bit of photoshoppage later, and it's almost certainly "STAR")
Another thing I've noticed is the complete and utter overkill on the ship measurements. My dabbling in Thespianism today led to the ultimate insult to one's manliness, namely the insertion of measuring tapes in all manner of locations all in the great pursuit of the knowledge of exactly how long my thigh is in three places. Clearly, this poor ship has suffered a similar fate. Want to know how far apart the nacelles are? How about the catamarans? Or how about the length of the saucer? The inseam on the antimatter ejection hatch?
Clearly, this thing won't be another Defiant.
[ September 16, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
The saucer does look like it could have seven or eight decks, including the bridge. But there's no sign of the tiny "secondary hull" anywhere. Are we to assume that it sits between the longitudal pylons, perfectly on level with them and not sticking up or down even one deck's worth? The 3D pics make it seem it should be noticeably below the longitudal pylon level. And no obvious multi-deck shuttlebay cavity is visible here.
Hrmgrlmgrlm... I think the Loknars looked better than the NX-01 from side.
Timo Saloniemi
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Though like that ship, it has a rather...unflattering profile. We might not see it that often. Which would, hopefully, open up some different angles for in-orbit shots. Maybe she'll orbit like a space shuttle?
The other very bad thing is that the engineering interior makes no sense, unless engineering is in the small aft pod - unlikely. If engineering is in the main hull, the PTC would have to bend up and down and left and right several times and run through most of the ships until they finally reach the nacelles. What an engineer's nightmare!
So it looks like the Akira from top and the Loknar/Springfield from the side. What will the bottom look like???
[ September 17, 2001: Message edited by: J ]
Now, have a good luck at the extreme upper-right corner of the schematics sheet behind Braga. You can make out a forward view of the nacelles and they're, well, oval from the front. Vertical ovals, sorta TMP-ish.
The Phoenixish brackets around the Bussards don't seem to be too visible, either, although they could just not be really noticeable enough to show up on a blurry diagram.
But, anyway, the oblique colour view of the Enterprise 3D model makes it really look like the nacelles are round.
If so, either these schematics are works-in-progress or the 3D views in TVGuide and USA Today were.
Thoughts?
[ September 17, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
Also, in that same picture, it shows the saucer to be an oval. We've seen a near dead-perfect top view from the TV Guide picture as well as the uniform patches and the schematic on the wall behind the situation table on the bridge show a near perfect circular saucer.
Given this, I'd be led to believe that the schematics are fairly old ones. The production shots we've seen show that at the saucer's shape is wrong in those schematics. I guess we'll find out for sure in another week.
The saucer is interesting. Obviously, when one mentally compensates for the skewing of the wall, it should look less oval. But it still jars me a bit on the big one behind Berman. Odd stuff.
Um since that pic is a three view 3D rendering and since we're working devilishly hard to see it, i have to ask.. has anyone seen this months Star Trek Communicator mag? Ive had it for three weeks and the cover is a huge pic of the NX (printed about 7 inches long and 4 high, 3d modeled) and i can even see little dudes in the round portholes... Its a little less strain on the eyes to look at that than sharpening the one behind Rick and Bran's heads
I have to call you out on your use of the word 'use' in this case. Seeing a 3D top view of the Enterprise NX would be of some use to me if i had several hundred printouts of it to hold up the leg of my coffee table, but right now i have precious little use for it.
But I'm proud of the fact you managed to refine it to that point..
I'm holding the mag in my hands. It looks real nice. Unfortunately i moved three weeks ago and the only thing i cant find is the USB wire that connects my scanner to my comp.. maybe ill go up to the art lab later. I really assumed everyone else had seen this thing.. i did an approximate upper half deck count and fun stuff like that
It takes up the whole width of the cover (8") and is not the same top view i keep seeing everywhere else, shows more to the side and front. The Deflector dish looks really tiny, and is either ovular or angled forward (more likely both)
By the porthole placement the 'main diameter' of the saucer is one deck high, going up another deck in a gentle slope, then the 'bubble' begins, 3 tiers of portholes on it. Odd because at this point the hull is more top facing than side, so some portholew would look almost straight up. The foreswept 'box & catamaran connects' begin there, followed by one more deck with copletely up facing ports. I cant tell whether the bridge module is one deck, or deck two with the bridge just occupying the dome above it. The port/stbd running lights have dark recesses around them identical to the 1701 (thank god theyre not phaser strips!)
on each side around deck 4 or 5 there are indentations with landing pads painted on them.
There seems to be an airlock recessed into the main diameter (deck 7 or 8 i estimate) on the stbd side.. and towards the rear, right before the catamaran connect there are plates that could be the cowls of port/stbd impulse engines or some other rear facing recessed structure. if they are imp drives it would leave the middle areas open to be bays or something else
The Nacelles are definitely round
That has to be the ugliest side view of a ship ever to grace the Star Trek universe. However, it certainly looks more like a 22nd century ship from the side than it does from the top.
And as far as what other ship it reminds me of, try the Ralph McQuarrie "Phase II" prototypes.
Every other Trek ship has some angles that we just don't want to see. The first that comes to my mind is the Galaxy class. It's a beautiful ship, but she looks awful when you're below her and looking up at an angle. The saucer looks just too big to be matched with the stardrive section. The Intrepid? Any shot that featured the "saucer" as the focal point. Looks like a giant nose sticking out. Horrible side views? I'd put the Nova, Akira, Sabre, and Norway in that list. However, all of those ships are real beauties when views from their good angles.
But I have to say I do not know of a starship design I completely dislike. Miranda was to some degree my least favourite of the older ships, but since buildng a Miranda mesh it has grown on me, and I see many things about it that I now like. I think this will be the case with NX-01. Many may have said urgh! at first. But a little way down the line we may fall in love with it. We really have to wait until we see more of it in 3D, and on screen.
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