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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Fourth, Fifth, and Tenth.
(but seriously...)

If anyone has generally agreed-upon dimensions for the saucer sections of the Galaxy and Sovreign, I'd like to hear them. I'm trying to scale my starship designs, and I need some base measurements to start with.

I could also use Intrepid, Prometheus, and those little fighters from SoA sizes.

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Posted by nx001a (Member # 291) on :

Have you tried looking in the tng technical manual for the saucer section dimensions. i have a look tonight for you if you like? However, i cannot guarantee any thing.

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Posted by Dax (Member # 191) on :

OK, I know the lengths of (most of) these and from there you can work out the saucer dimensions from the schematics.

Definite lengths:
Galaxy 2108'
Sovereign 2248'
Intrepid 1130'

I'm pretty sure the Prometheus is meant to be roughly 1360' but I'm really not sure about the SoA Fighters.

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Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :

In the 24th century all english measurements has been deemed archaic and has been removed from society

USE METRIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

In meters that is (EXACTLY):
Galaxy 642,5184m
Sovereign: 685,1904m
Intrepid: 344,424m
Prometheus: 414,528m

And I thought the fighters were roughly 30 meters.

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

And the 170m Defiant!

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Posted by First of Two (Member # 16) on :

Altair: I assume you meant to use decimal points. Those look like commas. And are the stats for Sovreign and Galaxy the whole ships, or the saucers alone?

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Well, you see, Altair is from the Netherlands, so the commas...

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

I'm thinking only the U.S., the U.K., Australia, and English Canadians use decimals... It's more easier to use commas when writing...

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

... and points for large numbers, like this: $100.000,00

Anyway, those are full lengths.

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

I prefer putting a space in, like this: $100 000,00

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Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :

$10,000,000 here in America. My Chemistry teacher tried to enforce the metric system on us, even though no one used it. Putting spaces every 3 numbers makes it look like it's a different number to me so I'll stick with the commas.

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Posted by Elim Garak (Member # 14) on :

Spaces let you mentally group things rather well, IMO.

I have a list somewhere of what countries/parts of countries use commas, spaces, and periods for what when writing numbers. It was a pretty interesting list, too...

Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :

The proper way to write down a hundred million dollars would of course be 10^8 $, or alternatively 100 M$. This way there is no endless and confusing string of zeroes that would require commas, full stops or spaces. Comparison of order of magnitude is also simple, since it's directly visible in the exponent or the prefix letter. (And of course the $ sign has to come after the number, not before it, to conform to the sensible general system).

Here in Finland, we aren't much better than the Anglo-Saxon world: we do place the symbol for the currency unit after the number, but we still use strings of zeroes separated by spaces, with comma as the decimal sign. Going metric came naturally (back then the nation was barely literate ), and going SI is also working in that we're finally getting rid of horsepowers and calories at least. But there's a lot to be improved in matters of notation...

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :

Well the correct way is grouping in threes with spaces - but people know what you're on about when you put commas i.e. 1 million:

1 000 000
or
1,000,000

but what is with this COMMA for a decimal POINT!

that has got to be just wrong...

everything - stock market/scientific journals - everything uses e.g. thirty-seven point nine.

37.90
100.10
3122.89
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3260.89

etc.
(bugger the spaces didn't work to line up the decimal points)

sorry, who uses the currency symbol after the number?
$20
�1000
�40

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Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :

Finland?! Nifty! Finnish is one of the best languages around, if you like noun cases like I do.

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :

Sweden uses commas too, but I don't have a problem using points when I know I will show the figures to some off-worlder.

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Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :

The proper Duth way is:
�100.000.000.000,000

�100 000 000 000,000 (used in printed txt mostly, like maths books)

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Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :

One million currency units in french would be:

1 000 000,00 $

1 000 000,00 � (I'm not sure if that's the symbol for francs...)

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Posted by Michael Dracon (Member # 4) on :

Prakesh: That's one zero to many after the comma, in both cases

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Posted by Mikey T (Member # 144) on :

I just saw the Galaxy Class saucer dementions on the Art of STar Trek book. But its in feet...

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Posted by Joshua Bell (Member # 327) on :

Isn't localization/internationalization (l10n, i18n in geekspeak) fun?

There's no "correct" way to format numbers; even within a single country there are sub-fields that do it differently; for example, in the US locale, you don't use commas as "thousands separators" for any science-type numbers; conversely, in financial matters you use parentheses instead of dashes for negative numbers. The US and Canada agree on periods as decimal place indicators, but Canada officially uses spaces as thousands separators while the US uses commas.

As a software developer working on user-level applications for a world-wide market, you get used to these things. Take nothing for granted. We're lucky that the whole world uses base 10 and (mostly) just the Arabic digits 0-9 - but when you have right-to-left text (Hebrew, Arabic) and left-to-right numbers (e.g. "!dlrow 123 olleH"), even that complicates things!