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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Minds out of the gutter, please...

Anyway, I was thinking we should co-opt the time-honored workplace practice of guessing a new baby's delivery date & time and weight for the expectant new delivery coming from proud parents Eaves, Drexler and Zimmerman. Thus far, all we have is:

quote:
When asked about the design of the new (old?) Enterprise, John said it was smaller then Kirk's, but that they're still working on it, so the exact size hasn't been established.

So, the simple proposition I put out to all of you is guess the Enterprise-(-A)'s length. The contest will be open to submissions until such a time as we see the ship or otherwise gain access to information that makes guessing the length any easier. A winner will be announced once we get official word of the correct value, which will hopefully come from official channels and not by scaling windows off grainy vidcaps.

One guess per person, and no post editing. Guesses should be whole numbers, in meters, and a discrete value rather than a range. And don't repeat the exact same number as someone else.

Closest wins. In event of a tie, the two people will split the prize. The prize is nothing, thus facilitating easy splitting.

Finally, for reference's sake, Kirk's Enterprise (pre-refit) was 289m long.

Place your bets.

[ June 11, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
 


Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
Since it will most likely be a CGI model....I'll take 12 cm, or the casual length across a normal CD disc capable of holding the model
 
Posted by Mucus (Member # 24) on :
 
doh.
ignore double post

[ June 11, 2001: Message edited by: Mucus ]
 


Posted by Conspiracy of One (Member # 36) on :
 
170.7m.
 
Posted by Ace (Member # 389) on :
 
Perhaps 200 m?
 
Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
 
My estimate is 110.00 meters.
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
As for me, I'm staking 235m.

How did I know Frank would go with what he did...
 


Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
 
220m.
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
I'll go for 250m.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
147 meters. And 23 quatloos.
 
Posted by NightWing (Member # 4) on :
 
I think they will be making the ship as large as possible to get in some nice goodies to play with in next episodes. So I'm going for about 250 meters as well.
 
Posted by Davok (Member # 143) on :
 
152,40m.

quote:
they're still working on it, so the exact size hasn't been established.

Yeah right.. this is why I guess that some time during the first season, one of those VFX guys will come up with a canon length of "uhm.. 500 feet".
 
Posted by Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
 
210m. Nice 'n thick.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Well I reckon anything above 289m, cause we all know that they're going to totally fuck 'history' up and Of course, they wouldn't know the 'real' length of Kirk's Enterprise.
 
Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
 
Hey, wouldn't the Enterprise-(-A) be the Enterprise+A?

Anyhoo, I'll pitch my bid in for 190 metres.
 


Posted by The_Evil_Lord (Member # 256) on :
 
Anything over 200 meters is definitely too large, I can't imagine the fresh young Starfleet having that kind of industrial production capacity. So, I'm gonna go with a nice rounded figure, say 175,3141592654 meters.

[ June 12, 2001: Message edited by: The_Evil_Lord ]
 


Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Bah, I'm still called her the Pre-E. And for my wager, I'll say 280 m.

Mark
 


Posted by Dr. Jonas Bashir (Member # 481) on :
 
Mark... it's supposed to be SMALLER than Kirk's Enterprise.

My guess: 156.7 m
 


Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
 
Nit: Starfleet won't even be around until 2161-- and new ships [specifically built for Starfleet] shouldn't start rolling off the lines until really close to 2170.

However my bid would place a reasonable size around 100 meters... however knowing TPTB we'll probably get one that's 10, 100, 1000, and 10000 all at the same time.
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
112.776m

[ June 12, 2001: Message edited by: TSN ]
 


Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
 
I'm going for small so 23.5 meters. Then in episode 2 it will be 700 kilometers.
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
my guess: 186M.

But we could also start a new pool on 'the likelihood of being told virutally no information whatsoever on the Enterprise in the first ep'.
 


Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
*rolls eyes at everyone who didn't read the following:*
quote:
Guesses should be whole numbers, in meters, and a discrete value rather than a range.

I've rounded the guesses of you fraction-touting jokers. NightWing's guess of 250m has been disallowed, as Vogon Poet beat him to it, but I'll welcome a re-wager.


Wagers accepted so far
0.012m - Mucus
024m - Matrix
100m - J
110m - targetemployee
113m - TSN
147m - Shik
152m - Davok
157m - Dr. Jonas Bashir
171m - <> aka Frank
175m - The_Evil_Lord
186m - The Red Admiral
190m - Mr. Christopher
200m - Ace
210m - Nimrod
220m - Bernd
235m - The_Tom
250m - Vogon Poet
280m - Mark Nguyen
 


Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
 
Put me in for 130m for the Big Pre-E.
 
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
Has it occured to anyone that this might be something totally different from what we're familiar with? What if these seven officers are the only crew aboard? Why not? Then we'd be dealing with some sort of glorified runabout, no bigger than an Akira.
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
As I recall, the Big-E is 289m, so my Pre-E guess is a hair shorter at 280. In any case, I'm sure it will be longer than ths largest estimates at the Defiant's size, i.e. > 170m.

I'm also wagering that Eaves carries through his sleekness paradigm that he used on the E-E to Series V. Thus, the Pre-E will be just a bit shorter, but overall smaller in size and volume, just as the E-E was to the E-D (granted, the E-E was longer, but you get what I mean).

[head spinning at all the E's...]

Mark
 


Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Omega: Well, even by Frank's rather minature estimate of an Akira's length, Akiras are hardly glorified runabouts.

And while the idea of a really small ship is certainly a possibility, the fact that they're filling three soundstages with sets seems to be a strike against that. Besides, what would Star Trek be without redshirts?

Nonetheless, should Mr. Omega choose to submit a small figure for length, it will most certainly be welcomed.
 


Posted by Tech Sergeant Chen (Member # 350) on :
 
Might as well boldly go between a couple of other guesses. 180m.
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
What do we get when we win?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I'm not a "fraction-touting joker". I chose 112.776m because it's 370 feet. The Trek VFX people seem to prefer lengths in feet, so I figured it would probably be a round number of feet, and thus a fractional number of meters.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
You didn't include my length... something GREATER than 289m, cause well, I'm sure they don't care what the original length of the Enterprise was.
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Tim: Yup, I was well aware that designs have been traditionally done in feet. But if you picked 113m it would be impossible for anyone to beat you if the ship was 370 feet. So nyah and double-nyah.

Shik: I believe the answer to your question's in my original post.

Andrew: Eaves is a hugeass TOS fan. No worries there. So give me a number already.

[ June 12, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ]
 


Posted by Hunter (Member # 611) on :
 
Put me in for 161m
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
BTW, I'm guessing that the contestant that comes closest to the actual length without going over gets a chance at the showcase showdown..?

Mark
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Mark Nguyen, come on down! You're the next contestant on "The Length Is Right"!
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Luckily, in this situation, it's closest to the actual retail length but you are allowed to go over.

And if you get within 2m I'll give you both showcases.
 


Posted by Matrix (Member # 376) on :
 
I chose 23.5 meters becuase a half meter helps alot

I highly doubt that ship will be no larger than the E-nil. I also highly doubt the ship will be the size of a runabout.
 


Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
137m compressed. I think/hope there's gonna be some kinda variable geometry thing happening which may affect the craft's overall length...
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
250m
 
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
 
Put me down for 160 meters
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Yeeesh, that's the third 250m guess. Pick something else!
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Yeah, I chose it first! Although now I'm thinking it's way too large. . .
 
Posted by NightWing (Member # 4) on :
 
Okay, here is new my bet: 650ft/198m (or 198.12 to be exact).
 
Posted by Omega (Member # 91) on :
 
87m
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
*flaps the "last lap" flag*

You have exactly 24 hours to put in final bets, or less if the TV Guide poster leaks first.

At which point the incessant scaling dicussions will kick in. We won't crown a champion until we get an "official" figure from the horse's (Eaves) or the pony's (Drexler) mouth..

Wagers accepted so far
0.012m - Mucus
024m - Matrix
087m - Omega
100m - J
110m - targetemployee
113m - TSN
130m - Stingray
137m - Balaam Xumucane
147m - Shik
152m - Davok
157m - Dr. Jonas Bashir
160m - Treknophyle
161m - Hunter
171m - BlabbityBlah aka Frank
175m - The_Evil_Lord
180m - Tech Sergeant Chen
186m - The Red Admiral
190m - Mr. Christopher
198m - NightWing
200m - Ace
210m - Nimrod
220m - Bernd
235m - The_Tom
250m - Vogon Poet
280m - Mark Nguyen

[ July 07, 2001: Message edited by: The_Tom ]


 
Posted by Aethelwer (Member # 36) on :
 
BlabbityBlah?
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
Or whatever your name is this week...
 
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
That'll do it for new entries... contest closed.

Methinks the 200m+ club is looking more likely to win...
 


Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
I just got the Star Trek Communicator with the large NX01 on the cover
I count somewhere between 7-9 decks, but thats just above the saucer plane (its a top view) its likely we have a lower pod with the sensory and ordnance like the 1701. that would add 2-4 more decks giving us a possible 12 decks, and the width of the saucer looks to be a little bigger than 3/4 the 1701 saucer (going by the bridge size) this means about 125-150m saucer bringus into a 200+ length. i havent put a ruler or calculator to the damn thing though im just eyeballing. will scan it for show later....
 


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