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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Okay, here's the fruit of several weeks of research and several arthritic hours of typing.

Now all of you tear it to pieces.

Seriously. Scrutinize it to the finest detail. Show no mercy! If there are ANY errors or omissions, I want to correct them.

Federation Starships

Name Registry No. Class Source

U.S.S. Adelphi NCC-26849 Ambassador “Tin Man” (TNG)
U.T.S. Aeon “Fututre’s End” (VOY)
U.S.S. Agamemnon NCC-11638 Apollo “Descent” (TNG)
U.S.S. Ahwahnee NCC-2048 Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Ahwahnee NCC-71620 Cheyenne “Redemption” (TNG)
U.S.S. Ahwahnee NCC-73620 Cheyenne “The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S Ajax NCC-11574 Apollo “Tapestry” (TNG)“Where No One Has Gone Before” (TNG)“Redemption” (TNG)
U.S.S. Akagi NCC-62158 Rigel “Redemption” (TNG)“You Are Cordially Invited” (DS9)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Akira NCC-62497 Akira Star Trek Fact Files
U.S.S. Al-Batani NCC-42995 Excelsior “Caretaker” (VOY)“Bride of Chaotica” (VOY)“Live Fast and Prosper” (VOY)
U.S.S. Alka-Selsior Excelsior “The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S. Ambassador NCC-10521 Ambassador TNG Technical Manual
U.S.S. Antares NCC-501 Antares “Charlie X” (TOS)
U.S.S. Appalachia NCC-52136 Steamrunner Star Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Archon NCC-189 Daedalus “Return of the Archons” (TOS)
U.S.S. Arcos NCC-6237 Deneva “Legacy” (TNG)
S.S. Ariel “The Eye of the Beholder” (TAS)
U.S.S. Aries NCC-45167 Renaissance “The Icarus Factor” (TNG)“Identity Crisis” (TNG)“Redemption” (TNG)“Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Armstrong NCC-57537 Challenger “Apocalypse Rising” (DS9)
S.S. Artemis “The Ensigns of Command” (TNG)
S.S. Astral Queen “The Conscience of the King” (TOS)
S.S. Aurora “The Way to Eden” (TOS)
S.S. Beagle “Bread and Circuses” (TOS)
U.S.S. Bellerophon NCC-62048 Nebula “Emissary” (DS9)
U.S.S. Bellerophon NCC-74705 Intrepid “Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges” (DS9)
U.S.S. Berlin NCC-14232 Excelsior “Angel One” (TNG)
U.S.S. Biko NCC-50331 Oberth “A Fistful of Datas” (TNG)
U.S.S. Billings “Night” (VOY)
S.S. Bonaventure NCC-S1200 Bonaventure “The Time Trap” (TAS)
U.S.S. Bonchune NCC-70915 Nebula “Message in a Bottle” (VOY)“Endgame” (VOY)
U.S.S. Bonestell NCC-31600 Oberth “Emissary” (DS9)
U.S.S. Bozeman NCC-1941 Soyuz “Cause and Effect” (TNG)“All Good Things…” (TNG)Star Trek: GenerationsStar Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Bradbury NX-72307 Bradbury “Menage a Troi” (TNG)
U.S.S. Brattain NCC-21166 Miranda “Night Terrors” (TNG)
U.S.S. Budapest NCC-64923 Norway Star Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Buran NCC-57580 Challenger “The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S. Cairo NCC-42136 Excelsior “Chain of Command” (TNG)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Carolina NCC-160 Daedalus “Friday’s Child” (TOS)
U.S.S. Carolina “Inside Man” (VOY)
U.S.S. Centaur NCC-42043 Excelsior “A Time to Stand” (DS9)
U.S.S. Challenger NCC-2032 Challenger Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Challenger NCC-71099 Galaxy “Timeless” (VOY)
U.S.S. Charleston NCC-42285 Excelsior “The Neutral Zone” (TNG)“Redemption” (TNG)
U.S.S. Chekov NCC-57302 Springfield “The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S. Clement NCC-12537 Apollo “Lower Decks” (TNG)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Cochrane NCC-8000 Oberth “The Drumhead” (TNG)
U.S.S. Cochrane NCC-59318 Oberth “Emissary” (DS9)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Columbia NCC-621 Star Trek: The Motion Picture
S.S. Columbia “The Cage” (TOS)“The Menagerie” (TOS)
U.S.S. Concorde NCC-68711 Freedom “All Good Things…” (TNG)
U.S.S. Constantinople NCC-34852 Istanbul “The Schizoid Man” (TNG)
U.S.S. Constellation NCC-1017 Constitution “The Doomsday Machine” (TOS)
U.S.S. Constellation NCC-1974 Constellation Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country“The Abandoned” (DS9)“Waltz” (DS9)
U.S.S. Constitution NCC-1700 Constitution “Space Seed” (TOS)“Court Martial” (TOS)“Datalore” (TNG)
U.S.S. Copernicus NCC-623 Oberth Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
U.S.S. Cortez “Favor the Bold” (DS9)“Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)“Far Beyond the Stars” (DS9)
U.S.S. Crazy Horse NCC-50446 Excelsior “The Pegasus” (TNG)
U.S.S. Crockett NCC-38955 Excelsior “Paradise” (DS9)
U.S.S. Curry NCC-45617 Excelsior/Constitution “A Time to Stand” (DS9)
U.S.S. Danube NX-72003 Danube DS9 Technical Manual
U.S.S. Dauntless NX-01-A Dauntless “Hope and Fear” (VOY)
U.S.S. Defiant NCC-1764 Constitution “The Tholian Web” (TOS)
U.S.S. Defiant NX-74205 Defiant DS9Star Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Defiant NX-74205 Defiant “What You Leave Behind” (DS9)
U.S.S. Denver NCC-54927 Yorkshire “Ethics” (TNG)
U.S.S. Destiny “Shadows and Symbols” (DS9) “Afterimage” (DS9)
S.S. Dierdre “Friday’s Child” (TOS)
U.S.S. Drake NCC-20381 Wambundu “The Arsenal of Freedom” (TNG)
U.S.S. Drake NCC-70956 Andromeda “Apocalypse Rising” (DS9)
U.S.S. Eagle NCC-956 Constitution Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
L.T.A. Elmira “Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Emden NCC-1856 Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Endeavour NCC-1895 Constitution Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Endeavour NCC-71805 Nebula “Redemption” (TNG)“The Game” (TNG)“Scorpion” (VOY)Star Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Entente NCC-2120 Star Trek: The Motion Picture
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 Constitution TOSStar Trek: The Motion PictureStar Trek II: The Wrath of KhanStar Trek III: The Search For Spock
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-A Constitution Star Trek IV: The Voyage HomeStar Trek V: The Final FrontierStar Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-B Excelsior Star Trek: Generations
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-C Ambassador “Yesterday’s Enterprise” (TNG)
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D Galaxy TNGStar Trek: Generations
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-E Sovereign Star Trek: First ContactStar Trek: Insurrection“Life Lines” (VOY)
U.S.S. Equinox NCC-72381 Nova “Equinox” (VOY)
U.S.S. Essex NCC-173 Daedalus “Power Play” (TNG)
U.S.S. Essex NCC-1697 Constitution “Court Martial” (TOS)
U.S.S. Excalibur NCC-1664 Constitution “Court Martial” (TOS)“The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)
U.S.S. Excalibur NCC-26517 Ambassador “Redemption” (TNG)
U.S.S. Excelsior NCC-2000 Excelsior Star Trek III: The Search For SpockStar Trek IV: The Voyage HomeStar Trek V: The Final FrontierStar Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country“Interface” (TNG)
U.S.S. Exeter NCC-1672 Constitution “Court Martial” (TOS)“The Omega Glory” (TOS)
U.S.S. Exeter NCC-26531 Ambassador “Non Sequitur” (VOY)“You Are Cordially Invited” (DS9)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Farragut NCC-1647 Constitution “Obsession” (TOS)
U.S.S. Farragut NCC-60597 Nebula Star Trek: Generations“Nor the Battle to the Strong” (DS9)
U.S.S. Farragut Excelsior “Chrysalis” (DS9)
U.S.S. Fearless NCC-14598 Excelsior “Where No One Has Gone Before” (TNG)
U.S.S. Firebrand NCC-68723 Freedom “The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S. Fleming NCC-20316 Wambundu “Force of Nature” (TNG)
U.S.S. Fredrickson NCC-42111 Excelsior “A Time to Stand” (DS9)“Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)“Relativity” (VOY)
U.S.S. Gage NCC-11672 Apollo “Emissary” (DS9)
U.S.S. Galaxy NCC-70637 Galaxy TNG Technical Manual“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)
U.S.S. Galice “Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Gander Danube “Penumbra” (DS9)
U.S.S. Gandhi NCC-26632 Ambassador “Second Chances” (TNG)“Defiant” (DS9)
U.S.S. Ganges NCC-72454 Danube “Past Prologue” (DS9)
U.S.S. Gettysburg NCC-3890 Constellation “Too Short A Season” (TNG)“Treachery, Faith, and the Great River” (DS9)
U.S.S. Goddard NCC-59621 Korolev “The Vengeance Factor” (TNG)“Redemption” (TNG)
U.S.S. Gorkon NCC-40521 Excelsior “Descent” (TNG)
U.S.S. Grissom NCC-638 Oberth Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
U.S.S. Grissom NCC-42857 Excelsior “The Most Toys” (TNG)
U.S.S. Hathaway NCC-2593 Constellation “Peak Performance” (TNG)
U.S.S. Havana NCC-34043 Istanbul “Lessons” (TNG)
U.S.S. Helin NCC-1692 Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Hera NCC-62006 Nebula “Interface” (TNG)
U.S.S. Hermes NCC-585 Hermes Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
U.S.S. Hermes NCC-10376 Antares “Redemption” (TNG)
U.S.S. Hiroshima Steamrunner Star Trek Encyclopedia
U.S.S. Hispaniola “Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Hokkaido Renaissance TNG Technical Manual
U.S.S. Honshu NCC-60205 Nebula “Waltz” (DS9)
U.S.S. Hood NCC-1703 Constitution “Court Martial” (TOS)“The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)
U.S.S. Hood NCC-42296 Excelsior “Encounter at Farpoint” (TNG)“Tin Man” (TNG)“The Defector” (TNG)“Allegiance” (TNG)“Redemption” (TNG)“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)
U.S.S. Horatio NCC-10532 Ambassador “Conspiracy” (TNG)
U.S.S. Horizon NCC-176 Daedalus “A Piece of the Action” (TOS)
U.S.S. Hornet NCC-45231 Renaissance “Redemption” (TNG)“Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges” (DS9)
S.S. Huron NCC-F1313 “The Pirates of Orion” (TAS)
U.S.S. Intrepid NCC-1831 Constitution “Court Martial” (TOS)“The Immunity Syndrome” (TOS)
U.S.S. Intrepid NCC-38907 Excelsior “Sins of the Father” (TNG)“Family” (TNG)“Force of Nature” (TNG)
U.S.S. Intrepid Intrepid “In The Flesh” (VOY)
U.S.S. Jenolen NCC-2010 Sydney “Relics” (TNG)
U.S.S. John Muir NCC-1732 Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Kai Winn “Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Kearsarge NCC-57566 Challenger “Firstborn” (TNG)
S.S. Kobayashi Maru Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
U.S.S. Kongo NCC-1710 Constitution Star Trek II: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Kongo NCC-42173 Excelsior “Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)
U.S.S. Korolev NCC-2014 Korolev Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Kyushu NCC-65491 New Orleans “The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S. Lakota NCC-42768 Excelsior “Homefront” (DS9)“Paradise Lost” (DS9)
S.S. Lakul NFT-7793 Whorfin Star Trek: Generations
U.S.S. Lalo NCC-43837 Mediterranean “We’ll Always Have Paris” (TNG)“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S. Lantree NCC-1837 Miranda “Unnatural Selection” (TNG)
U.S.S. LaSalle NCC-6203 Deneva “Reunion” (TNG)
U.S.S. Leeds NCC-70352 Nebula DS9
U.S.S. Lexington NCC-1709 Constitution “Court Martial” (TOS)“The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)“Trials and Tribble-ations” (DS9)
U.S.S. Lexington NCC-14427 Excelsior “Thine Own Self” (TNG)
U.S.S. Lexington NCC-61832 Nebula “Explorers” (DS9)Star Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Liberator NCC-67016 “The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S. Livingston NCC-34099 Excelsior “Invasive Procedures” (DS9)
U.S.S. Madison Star Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Magellan NCC-3069 Constellation “Starship Mine” (TNG)
U.S.S. Magellan Galaxy “Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)
U.S.S. Majestic NCC-31860 Miranda “Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)
U.S.S. Malinche NCC-38997 Excelsior “For the Uniform” (DS9)
U.S.S. Maryland NCC-45109 Renaisssance “In Purgatory’s Shadow” (DS9)
U.S.S. Mayflower Star Trek EncyclopediaDS9 Technical Manual
U.S.S. Mekong NCC-72617 Danube “The Maquis” (DS9)“Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Melbourne NCC-62043 Excelsior “Emissary” (DS9)
U.S.S. Melbourne NCC-62043 Nebula “11001001” (TNG)“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)“Emissary” (DS9)
U.S.S. Merrimack NCC-61827 Nebula “Redemption” (TNG)“Birthright” (TNG)“Sarek” (TNG)“The Game” (TNG)
S.S. Milan NDT-50863 “New Ground” (TNG)
U.S.S. Monitor NCC-61826 Nebula “The Defector” (TNG)
U.S.S. Musashi “Treachery, Faith, and the Great River” (DS9)
U.S.S. Nash NCC-2010-B Sydney “Chrysalis” (DS9)“Trials and Tribble-ations” (DS9)
U.S.S. Nautilus NCC-31910 Miranda “Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)
U.S.S. Nobel NCC-55012 Olympic “Interface” (TNG)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
S.S. Norkova Antares “The Passenger” (DS9)
U.S.S. Oberth NCC-602 Oberth Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
S.S. Odin NGL-12535 “Angel One” (TNG)
U.S.S. Odyssey NCC-71832 Galaxy “The Jem’Hadar” (DS9)
S.S. Oregon “Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Okinawa NCC-13958 Excelsior “Homefront” (DS9)“Paradise Lost” (DS9)
U.S.S. Olympia “The Sound of Her Voice” (DS9)
U.S.S. Orinoco NCC-72905 Danube “The Siege” (DS9)
U.S.S. Pasteur NCC-58925 Olympic “All Good Things…” (TNG)
U.S.S. Pegasus NCC-53847 Oberth “The Pegasus” (TNG)
U.S.S. Philadelphia “Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)
U.S.S. Phoenix NCC-65420 Nebula “The Wounded” (TNG)
U.S.S. Portland NCC-57418 Chimera “The Die is Cast” (DS9)
U.S.S. Potemkin NCC-1657 Constitution “The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)“Turnabout Intruder” (TOS)“The Pirates of Orion” (TAS)
U.S.S. Potemkin NCC-18253 Excelsior “Peak Performance” (TNG)“Second Chances” (TNG)“Ethics” (TNG)“You Are Cordially Invited” (DS9)
U.S.G.S. Powell “Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Ptolemy NCC-3801 Ptolemy Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
U.S.S. Princeton NCC-59804 Niagara “The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S. Prokofiev NCC-68814 Andromeda “Tribunal” (DS9)
U.S.S. Prometheus NCC-71201 Nebula “Second Sight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Prometheus NX-59650 Prometheus “Message in a Bottle” (VOY)“Endgame” (VOY)
U.S.S. Proxima NCC-61952 Nebula “In Purgatory’s Shadow” (DS9)
U.S.S. Pueblo “Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)
U.S.S. Rabin NCC-63293 Akira Star Trek Fact Files
U.S.S. Raman NCC-29487 Oberth “Interface” (TNG)
S.S./U.S.S. Raven NAR-32450 “The Raven” (VOY)“Dark Frontier” (VOY)
U.S.S. Relativity NCV-474439-G Wells “Relativity” (VOY)
U.S.S. Reliant NCC-1864 Miranda Star trek II: The Wrath of Khan
U.S.S. Renegade NCC-63102 New Orleans “Conspiracy” (TNG)
U.S.S. Republic NCC-1371 Constitution “Court Martial” (TOS)
U.S.S. Repulse NCC-2544 Excelsior “The Child” (TNG)“Unnatural Selection” (TNG)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Revere NCC-595 Star Trek: The Motion Picture
U.S.S. Rio Grande NCC-72452 Danube DS9
U.S.S. Rhode Island NCC-72701 Nova “Endgame” (VOY)
S.S. Robert Fox NFT-1327 Whorfin Star Trek: Generations
U.S.S. Roosevelt NCC-2573 Excelsior “Unity” (VOY)
U.S.S. Rubicon NCC-72936 Danube “Family Business” (DS9)“Hippocratic Oath” (DS9)
U.S.S. Rutledge NCC-57295 New Orleans “The Wounded” (TNG)“Nor the Battle to the Strong” (DS9)
U.S.S. Saladin NCC-500 Saladin Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
S.S. Santa Maria BDR-529 Erewon “Paradise” (DS9)
U.S.S. Sao Paulo NCC-75633 Defiant “Dogs of War” (DS9)
U.S.S. Sarajevo NCC-38529 Istanbul “In Purgatory’s Shadow” (DS9)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Saratoga NCC-1867 Miranda Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
U.S.S. Saratoga NCC-31911 Miranda “Emissary” (DS9)
U.S.S. Saratoga “Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night” (DS9)
U.S.S. Sarek “Favor the Bold” (DS9)
U.S.S. Scovil NCC-1598 Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Seaview “Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)
U.S.S. Sentinel “Treachery, Faith, and the Great River” (DS9)
U.S.S. Shenandoah NCC-73024 Danube “Change of Heart” (DS9)
U.S.S. Shepard Oberth Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
U.S.S. Shiku Maru “Darmok” (TNG)
U.S.S. ShirKahr NCC-31905 Miranda “Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)
U.S.S. Silversides “Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)
U.S.S. Sitak Miranda “Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)
U.S.S. Sovereign Sovereign Star Trek Encyclopedia
U.S.S. Spector NCC-65549 Akira “Message in a Bottle” (VOY)
U.S.S. Springfield NCC-1963 Springfield Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Stargazer NCC-2893 Constellation “The Battle” (TNG)“Allegiance” (TNG)“The Wounded” (TNG)“Chain of Command” (TNG)
U.S.S. Strata “Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)
U.S.S. Sutherland NCC-72015 Nebula “Redemption” (TNG)“You Are Cordially Invited” (DS9)“Change of Heart” (DS9)
U.S.S. Syracuse “Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)
U.S.S. T’Kumbra Nebula “Take Me Out to the Holosuite” (DS9)
S.S. T’Pau NSP-17938 Apollo “Unification” (TNG)
S.S. T’Vran “Vortex” (DS9)
U.S.S. Tecumseh NCC-14934 Excelsior “Nor the Battle to the Strong” (DS9)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Thomas Paine NCC-65530 New Orleans “Conspiracy” (TNG)“Redemption” (TNG)
U.S.S. Thunderchild NCC-63549 Akira Star Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Tian An Men NCC-21382 Miranda “Redemption” (TNG)“In the Cards” (DS9)“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)
U.S.S. Ticonderoga Star Trek: Insurrection
U.S.S. Tolstoy NCC-62095 Rigel “The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
U.S.S. Tombaugh “Infinite Regress” (VOY)
U.S.S. Trial “The Way of the Warrior” (DS9)
U.S.S. Trieste NCC-37124 Merced “Clues” (TNG)“11001001” (TNG)“Redemption” (TNG)
U.S.S. Trinculo NCC-71867 Galaxy “Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)
U.S.S. Tripoli NCC-19386 Hokule’a “Datalore” (TNG)“Unification” (TNG)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Truman “Field of Fire” (DS9)
U.S.S. Tsiolkovsky NCC-53911 Oberth “The Naked Now” (TNG)
U.S.S. Ulysses NCC-66808 Nebula “The Adversary” (DS9)
U.S.S. Valdemar NCC-26198 Ambassador “Tribunal” (DS9)
U.S.S. Valiant NCC-1223 Constitution “A Taste of Armageddon” (TOS)
U.S.S. Valiant NCC-20000 Oberth Star Trek: Generations
U.S.S. Valiant NCC-74210 Defiant “Valiant” (DS9)
U.S.S. Valkyrie NCC-2590 Constellation “Redemption” (TNG)
U.S.S. Valley Forge NCC-43305 Excelsior “Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)
U.S.S. Venture NCC-71854 Galaxy “The Way of the Warrior” (DS9)“Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)
U.S.S. Veracruz “The Siege of AR558” (DS9)
S.S. Vico NAR-18834 Oberth “Hero Worship” (TNG)
U.S.S. Victory NCC-9754 Constellation “Elementary, Dear Data” (TNG)“Identity Crisis” (TNG)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Volga NCC-73196 Danube “Body Parts” (DS9)
U.S.S. Voyager NCC-73602 Intrepid/Constitution “A Time to Stand” (DS9)
U.S.S. Voyager NCC-74656 Intrepid VOY
S.S. W.E.B. DuBois “Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Wellington NCC-28473 Niagara “11001001” (TNG)“Remember Me” (TNG)“Ensign Ro” (TNG)
U.S.S. Whorfin NCC-1024 Whorfin Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
U.S.S. Wyoming NCC-43730 Mediterranean “Flashback” (VOY)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
S.S. Xhosa Antares “The Way of the Warrior” (DS9)“For the Cause” (DS9)
U.S.S. Yamaguchi NCC-26510 Ambassador “Emissary” (DS9)
U.S.S. Yamato NCC-71807 (formerly NCC-1305-E) Galaxy “Where Silence Has Lease” (TNG)“Contagion” (TNG)
U.S.S. Yangtzee Kiang NCC-72453 Danube “Emissary” (DS9)“Past Prologue” (DS9)
U.S.S. Yeager NCC-61947 Sabre Star Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Yellowstone NCC-70073 Sequoia “Melora” (DS9)
U.S.S. Yellowstone NX-74751 Yellowstone “Non Sequitur” (VOY)
U.S.S. Yorktown NCC-1717 Constitution “Obsession” (TOS)Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
U.S.S. Yorktown “Flashback” (VOY)
U.S.S. Yorktown NCC-61137 Zodiac “Frame of Mind” (TNG)“All Good Things…” (TNG)“Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Yosemite NCC-19002 Oberth “Realm of Fear” (TNG)“Whispers” (DS9)
U.S.S. Yukon NCC-74602 Danube “Sons of Mogh” (DS9)“By Inferno’s Light” (DS9)
U.S.S. Zandura Zandura Star Trek: First Contact
U.S.S. Zapata NCC-33184 Surak “Menage a Troi” (TNG)“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)
U.S.S. Zhukov NCC-62136 Ambassador “Hollow Pursuits”
S.S. Zola Peregrine “Caretaker” (VOY)
NCC-G1465 “More Tribbles, More Troubles” (TAS)
NCC-G1495 “More Tribbles, More Troubles” (TAS)
NCC-1685 “Court Martial” (TOS)
NCC-1718 “Court Martial” (TOS)
NCC-7100 Constellation TNG
NCC-13471 Miranda “What You Leave Behind” (DS9)
NAR-25820 Sydney Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
NCC-71325 “Caretaker” (VOY)
NCC-73918 Danube “Tacking Into the Wind” (DS9)
NCC-75227 Star Trek: Insurrection
NXP-2365WP/T Defiant DS9 Technical Manual
 


Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
The Zandura wasn't actually in First Contact, as I recall, and the ship itself never even designed beyond a few preliminary sketches.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Forgot to add these:
D.E.V. Eagle Valley, DY-950 class
S.S. Hatteras, DY-245 class
From “Up the Long Ladder” (TNG)

S.S. Woden, DY-100 class
From “The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)
 


Posted by USSdefiant (Member # 655) on :
 
One thing that I NEED you guys to do is not just to tell us what we missed but where you get whatever information you tell us. Oh yeah, I know this guy in real life, wow, we all have a real life. j/k. Anyway, I have been helping him(well, mostly listing to him talk for hours on end so he can sort things out verbally without looking weird as he talks to himself ) and we really need to know where ALL information came from as you might have noticed from his 10 posts or so.

On a different subject, he is the Monkey of Mim whos expertise is on federation starships, I am the Monkey of Mim whos expertise is on Physics in startrek and technology that relies a hell of a lot on our theoretical physics in startrek. I would be really happy if any of you could start some conversations focused more on this kind of technology that hopefully doesn't end up as a debate on REAL physics. Yes I love learning about REAL physics but we are talking about startrek here, we can include real physics in it but I dont want it to become exclusively on real physics.

[ July 05, 2001: Message edited by: USSdefiant ]
 


Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Curiously enough, I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Well, my own ships list just has SF ships, so I filtered everything else out of your list, and compared the names. I didn't check every class and registry and everything. I just check to see if there were any that one of us had and the other didn't. Most of what I found missing from your list are class ships. USS Nebula, USS Daedalus, and so on. I'll assume you left these out on purpose. If not, now you know.

Also missing were the following:

USS Discovery -- "The Squire of Gothos" (TOS) -- This one's still debatable. One would suspect it wasn't intended to be a ship name, but Kirk's poor grammar causes it to only make sense if it is. I choose to include it. You may not.

USS Republic -- "Valiant" (DS9) -- Some people think this is the same as the Constitution-class ship. I doubt it.

USS Yamato (five of them) -- "Where Silence Has Lease" (TNG) -- If we accept the NCC-1305-E registry as valid (which I do), there must have been five other Yamatos to precede the one we saw.

I also have some questions about things that were on your list. You may have simply copied them from other sources, and other people would have better answers. Hopefully I'll get the answers from someone...

USS Cochrane, NCC-8000 -- I think I remember this coming up before. How exactly did we find this out? Was it visible in the episode, or did someone simply claim that that was what the ship said?

USS Dauntless -- More a comment than a question... This wasn't a real Starfleet ship.

USS Defiant -- Another comment... You can't seriously think that the ship was supposed to have said that in WYLB, can you? It was just laziness on the part of the VFX guys. It should be ignored.

USS Jenol*n -- Actually, maybe I have more comments than I have questions. Anyway, the correct spelling of the caves for which this ship was named is "Jenolan". Since no two onscreen sources agree on the spelling, I'd recommend going w/ that one.

Kai Winn -- Are you sure this was a "USS" ship? I hope not...

USS Kongo -- There really isn't any evidence that an Excelsior-class by this name was ever used. I may have just been an idea in Okuda's head that never made it any further.

USS Lexington, Excelsior-class -- This ship wasn't actually seen in TNG, and the line in DS9 about the other Lexington, IIRC, pretty much says that the TNG one has to be the same as the DS9 one.

Shiku Maru -- Was this ever established to be a "USS"? The Encyclopedias don't give it a prefix.

USS Spector -- Wasn't this just in the Fact Files? I thought the Akira in MiaB was either unlabelled, or still labelled "Thunderchild".

USS Voyager, NCC-73602 -- Is this assuming the monstrosity seen in the DS9TM is actually the Voyager preproduction model, and that it was actually seen in DS9 somewhere?

USS Yellowstone -- I don't see any reason to assume this exists in the normal timeline, but some people do.

USS Yorktown -- Why assume the one mentioned in "Flashback" is a new one?

USS Zandura -- As mentioned, this wasn't actually in the movie.

NCC-13471 -- I'm just lonst on this one. Weren't the up-close shots in WYLB that showed a Miranda or two just stock footage?

NCC-73916 -- I have NCC-73918. I seem to recall there being a debate over this one in the past. Was a definitive answer reached, or did everyone just go w/ their preference?
 


Posted by USSdefiant (Member # 655) on :
 
I have been working with him, and we did talk about the USS Dauntless. He probably should have mentioned that he meant this to be a questionable one. It is possible that the alien took the design of the ship from the message that starfleet sent to Voyager because the shape does seem to have the new starship "look" that began with the dominion war(basically a pointy look). But, it is also possible that the alien had the ship already and just used the molecular synthesis technology to make the panels look right. From the name "molecular synthesis" it seems that he has the technology that will make it a lot easier to make a whole new ship with a design that is a real starfleet one to fool Voyager more easily. Well, that is just my two cents but it would be better to hear a hell of a lot more from him because he is the ship expert of the Monkeys of Mim.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
OK...the thing with the Dauntless. It was established quite clearly that the ship was Arturis' ship. It wasn't taken form any existing Starfleet design. He made it *look* like a Starfleet ship through molecular synthesis, but the structure never changed. Just the detail.

What should be on your list is the possibility of a pre-TOS era U.S.S. Dauntless with the registry of NX/NCC-01. The suffix of "A" on Arturis' Dauntless might imply that he was taking the name from an early Starfleet ship. I, however, choose to believe that the new form of registry was meant to indicate the new form of propulsion. But that's me.
 


Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
You know, you've gotta give this Arturis guy a lot of credit, even if he was insane. He's got a ship, albeit of alien origin, which looks quite uncannily like a Federation starship (Whether his ship originally looked like what we saw, or he made exterior modifications to make it look more Starfleet-ish, is never found out). He paints the Starfleet logos on the outside hull. He has to have done some extensive research into the interiors of Federation starships for his particle synthesis thingy. He also knows past names and registries of Federation vessels, as the Voyager crew do not even question the name "Dauntless" or the registry of NX-01A. And he somehow intercepted the Admiral's message and was able to edit it to his own making.

That's a hell of a lot of work just to kill Voyager's crew.
 


Posted by Joshua Bell (Member # 327) on :
 
If his computers and replication technology were only slightly more advanced than the Federation's, though, he could basically just dictate your instructions to the computer and have it do all the nitty gritty work.

"Computer: Design a Starfleet-like ship with more advanced drives. Paint logos on the hull. Pick a name and registry that's a logical choice for such a ship, given our access to Federation data banks, and edit this intercepted message as follows..."

I mean, if the Enterprise can whip together Moriarty based on an off-hand challenge ("design an opponent who can defeat Data"), how much further do you need to extrapolate?

Heck, maybe he just said, "Computer, I want to mess with Voyager's crew. Figure out a way."
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Okay, here goes...

1. I am not among those who believe the myth of the U.S.S. Discovery.

2. I am among those who believe that the Republic is the old Constitution.

3. Actually, I just added that hyphen accidentally. The actual registry was NCC-1305E without a dash before the E. I tend to think it was just a part of the registry number and not a sequence indicator. (Like the TAS ships.)

4. The U.S.S. Cochrane NCC-8000 is from the TNG Companion.

5. I am aware the Dauntless wasn't a real Starfleet ship. However, it may actually be based on a real ship. Plus, I'd just add it anyway to add because even though it was fake I like the Dauntless and think it deserve a place in the chart. (Sorry.)

6. Whether it was an error by the VFX people or not, the onscreen evidence clearly and repeatedly shows that the new Defiant is still NX-74205.

7. I agree that the 'a' spelling is probably the most accurate, but for now I'm listing the one given in both the Encyclopedias and the Fact Files.

8. I'm fairly sure that the U.S.S. Kai Winn was indeed on the ship readout in "Whispers" (DS9). Go figure.

9. Correct. Still waiting for confirmation on the Excelsior-class Kongo. I just put it in for now because I was printing my copy out and I didn't want to have to go back and add it later. (What can I say, I'm lazy!)

10. I list the Excelsior-class and Nebula-class Lexingtons because the Encyclopedia does.

11. Not sure about this one. You're probably right. I think I just got the prefix from someone else's list.

12. The Spector is from the Fact Files. (For the purposes of this list, FF, Encyclopedia, and Tech. Man.[official] info counts.)

13. It is assuming exactly that.

14. I'm just listing everything that's been seen or mentioned. (I'm not really debating as to whether it exists in the normal timeline.)

15. Because the Constitution-class was turned into the Enterprise-A.
 


Posted by Wes1701E (Member # 212) on :
 
NCC-75227 Star Trek: Insurrection

that little scout Data used? Venture-Class, if you belive Armada
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
I hit the 'add reply' before I was done.

16. Okay. (It was on "Fitz's Canon Shiplist" so being the gullible little thing that I am...)

17. I think it was from a magazine oic or something. Everyone lists it. I'm not sure about the 4 and the 7. Maybe they should be flipped. Does anyone know the answer?

18. Uh...Don't I have 73918???


Wow. (And nobody even griped about my having the TAS ships in there...)
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
P.S.

BRANDON, DON'T EVEN GO INTO THAT MOLECULAR SYNTHESIS CRAP!


P.P.S.

YOU NEVER LISTENED TO ME TALK FOR HOURS! I MAKE PERFECT SENSE, AND I DON'T TALK TO MYSELF EVEN WHEN YOU'RE NOT AROUND!!!

YOUR TROUBLE IS THAT YOU TRY TO TAKE CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING!


(Wait a sec. Was that flaming?)
 


Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
 
This made my head hurt. It would be a lot easier to read if it was sorted by class...

--Jonah
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Okay, I reversed the 73918/73916 numbers. The point is, I have the one that you don't.

And is that NCC-8000 Cochrane then the one from "Emissary", or is there a reason to believe the 5xxxx registry the Encyclopedia gives for that?

[ July 06, 2001: Message edited by: TSN ]
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Well, I had it in microsoft word in a table format with nice columns, (a la Encyclopedia) but when I posted it I just pasted the entire document into my reply window and that's how it turned out.

But, I will maybe do one by class as well.
 


Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Ahem. TSN?

quote:
If we accept the NCC-1305-E registry as valid (which I do)...

quote:
You can't seriously think that the ship was supposed to have said that in WYLB, can you? It was just laziness on the part of the VFX guys. It should be ignored.

What's good for the goose, etc!
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Personally I just never have understood anyone who wants to ignore what's onscreen. Isn't that, like, totally against everything you guys believe in...or...something?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Simon: There's a difference. One of those things was actually spoken. Those sorts of things are supposed to be accurate. But we've seen time and again that the VFX people are less concerned w/ accuracy, and more concerned w/ making things look pretty. So I've decided to ignore stuff like that. Besides, the "1305-E" wasn't a mistake. Labelling the ship w/ a 7xxxx number was the mistake. Someone should have told Okuda the "1305-E" was going to be on screen, so he could make the labels accordingly.
 
Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
 
We, as the audience, need to be cautious about what is said and seen in Star Trek.

Let's discuss the latter part. The argument for the third Defiant's registry is that since it is visible as NX-74205, the registry is valid. The counter-argument is that the VFX staff were rushed and didn't have the time to complete all changes.

I am not taking sides in this debate. However, I will point to several registry issues. Here they are:

U.S.S. Hood
This Excelsior Class starship is introduced in "Encounter at Farpoint". The underside of the saucer is seen as the ship pulls away from the U.S.S. Enterprise. The registry is that of the U.S.S. Excelsior-NX-2000. Later, in "Redemption, Part 2", the U.S.S. Hood is given an unique registry-NCC-42296. Then, finally, in "Tears of the Prophets" and according to insiders, the U.S.S. Hood is given the registry of the U.S.S. Lakota- NCC-42768. If we follow the argument illustrated above for the U.S.S. Defiant, then the U.S.S. Hood started life with registry- NX-2000, then had a change in registry-NCC-42296, and finally was given another registry-NCC-42768. This is seen for the most part on screen and can thus be ruled canonical. Or we could argue that the U.S.S. Hood had only one registry and that the other two registries were inadvertent.

S.S. K.E. Tsiolkovsky
This ship, from "The Naked Now", has one visible registry-NCC-638 (seen as the ship careens into the solar fragment). This is the registry of the U.S.S. Grissom, of ST III. On the other hand, there is the dedication plate which is seen and not readable in the episode. This has the registry of NCC-53911. Since the visible evidence is more noticeable, can we say the S.S. K.E. Tsiolkovsky had the Grissom's registry? Or is this another instance of inadvertence?

U.S.S. Prometheus
This ship has two registries-NX-59650 and NX-74913. This one has been the focal point of many controversies and I will simply point to this case.

Danube Class starships & U.S.S. Rio Grande
This is a more interesting case. The first known runabout in Star Trek history, the U.S.S. Rio Grande had the registry NCC-72452. This is seen when the ship is ascending to the outer hull of the station. AFter this introduction, every runabout, including the runabout destroyed in the TNG episode, carried this registry to "One Little Ship". In that episode, the U.S.S. Rubicon was seen with a registry-NCC-72936, followed by the U.S.S. Shenandoah with registry NCC-73024. Then we see again the U.S.S. Rio Grande and her sister ship, the U.S.S. Gander. Both ships carry the registry NCC-73024. Finally, one of the last appearances of the runabout had the ship carrying registry NCC-73918.

So, in effect, the visual evidence tells us that from 2368 to 2374, all runabouts with the possible exception of one had registry NCC-72452. Then in 2374, runabouts had two registries. A year later, the runabout had two registries with the last registry as NCC-73918.

I will leave you to figure this mess out.

My personal opinion-
The models of ships are symbolic of the ship and her mission. The registry and name are often less important than the visual message that is being conveyed.
 


Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
 
I believe that Mr. Okuda inadvertently forgot the U.S.S. Cochrane from "The Drumhead". And this adds another case to the list above.

U.S.S. Cochrane
In the first episode for this ship, as confirmed by the TNG Companion and StarTrek.com, the U.S.S. Cochrane is seen in "The Drumhead". Her registry is four digits long and could be NCC-8000 or NCC-9000, which could account for the ease that this ship is transformed into the U.S.S. Yosemite NCC-19002. Returning to the subject matter, this same ship is seen in "The Game" and "A Fistful of Datas", as the U.S.S. Biko. Then in "The Emissary", we see an Oberth Class starship docking with DS9. Her registry is NCC-19002, that of the U.S.S. Yosemite. (BTW, this could be argued as proof that the ship seen in "A Fistful of Datas" was stock footage. And the ship seen in "Realm of Fear" was a new reuse of the Oberth Class model.) According to the StarTrek.com site and the Encyclopedia, this is the U.S.S. Cochrane. Years later, we see this ship on a display in DS9.

So in summary, the U.S.S. Cochrane has the following registry history-
NCC-8000 or NCC-9000
"The Drumhead", "The Game"
NCC-19002
"Emissary"
NCC-59318
"In the Pale Moonlight"
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
I told you: It's not 1305-E it's 1305E. There's no evidence that it's a sixth-generation ship. I'm working on a theory about letters in reg numbers, based on the Yamato and the TAS ships. But, in any case, the number was changed by Starfleet for whatever reason.

The thing about the Defiant is that we see it multiple times, not just once, and clearly, so it doesn't really matter WHY it was onscreen. It was and so that's what we have to accept as the reg.

It's not 'S.S. K.E. Tsiolkovsky' it's U.S.S. Tsiolkovsky. Whatever the dedication plaque says, it's the name and prefix in the encyclopedia that are considered correct. The NCC-53911 is the correct reg.

The NX-59650 reg is correct for the Prommie because that's what was most visible (plastered all over the hull) in the ep. That's also what the Encyc says in the text of the entry. The other graphics are overruled by the text.

The latest theory is that there were two Oberth-class U.S.S. Cochranes. The NCC-8000 from "The Drumhead" and the NCC-59318 from "Emmisary" and "In the Pale Moonlight."

Targetemployee: Your other examples were mostly stuff that either wasn't seen clearly onscreen at all, or only briefly and for once only.
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Targetemployee's examples illustrate my point quite well. In every one of those instances, it's the VFX of the ships that don't make sense. Spoken word, and things seen on computer displays and such are more consistently sensical.

"I told you: It's not 1305-E it's 1305E."

Yes, but you're wrong. If, because Riker didn't say "hyphen", there isn't one, then that means the registry must have actually been "NCC1305E", not "NCC-1305(-)E".

"It's not 'S.S. K.E. Tsiolkovsky' it's U.S.S. Tsiolkovsky. Whatever the dedication plaque says, it's the name and prefix in the encyclopedia that are considered correct."

So, would you also contend that the registry of the Raman was NCC-59983, even though we know for a fact that that was just a fuck-up in the Encyclopedia?
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
There is no hyphen in the entry for the Yamato in either Encyclopedia. It's just NCC-1305E. I agree, the Raman is an undisputed fuck up. But while it has it's fair share of errors, the Encyclopedia is our best official source of info and since okuda was the man responsible for most of the regs, prefixes, names, etc, on the shows, I think we should go with what he says, for the most part.
 
Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
 
To Monkey,

I am not staking a position in this debate. I am merely adding to the discussion with my knowledge.
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Sorry if I seemed a little snappy.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
If Okuda says something that needlessly contradicts what's been onscreen, why should we listen to him?
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Because there's a decent chance he may have been responsible for it BEING onscreen in the first place.

Besides, there are only a few cases where what he says even does contradict what's onscreen.
 


Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
Riker, to my knowledge did in fact say NCC 1305 'dash' E, indicating that it is really 1305-E.

I'm sure we all know that Okuda sent an urgent memo to the Producers to say that the reference to 1305-E be ommitted, as it was not a canon registry. They unfortunately commissioned a second draft of the script, whereby the old 1305-E was inadvertently re-inserted.
 


Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
quote:
You can't seriously think that the ship was supposed to have said that in WYLB, can you? It was just laziness on the part of the VFX guys. It should be ignored.

If this is referring to the CGI company, I don't think it's their laziness. They do what they're told to by Paramount. If Berman says he wants each ship have a new name and registry they'll do it. Otherwise the mentality is that "No one will notice".

As for the Prometheus registry. I prefer to, and use the NX-74913 one on my site. Whether it was barely seen or not, it was still there. The problem is lack of communication. On one hand you've got Okuda's scenic art department doing the MSD and DP, and on the other hand Foundation doing the ship CGI and coming up with their own.
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Wait a minute!

HE SAID 'DASH"!?!?!?

Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit!

Can someone confirm? If so, I'll gladly allow TSN and everyone to feed me my words on a silver platter, along with a generous side-helping of crow!
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Wait a minute!

HE SAID "DASH"!?!?!?

Well butter my butt and call me a biscuit!

Can someone confirm? If so, I'll gladly allow TSN and everyone to feed me my words on a silver platter, along with a generous side-helping of crow!
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Sorry...hehe...double...post...damn.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Red Admiral: According to the Encyclopedia, he didn't send the memo, because they took the line out. And because he didn't send it, they ended up putting it back in.
 
Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
 
Yup. He didn't know Riker's line had been put back in until he saw the completed episode at home -- by which point, the markings and displays for the Yamato in "Contagion" had already been finished.

--Jonah
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
WELL? DID HE SAY 'DASH' OR NOT???

I MUST KNOW, DAMN THEE ALL!!!!
 


Posted by Peregrinus (Member # 504) on :
 
Hang on. I'll go pop in my tape...

...

...

...

"NCC one three zero five dash E."

--Jonah
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Oh well...

...bring on that side helping of crow...
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
I noticed you had the "Madison" on your list. I know something like that name was said in "First Contact," but I thought it was called the "Manson." (It was mentioned on some radio cahtter). Also, you forgot tomention the USS Grissom from "Field of Fire" that had over a thousand people on board.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
The closed captioning from the DVD was confirmed to have said "Madison" rather than "Manson" as some people heard it.

There were an Oberth-class and an Excelsior-class Grissom. Don't I have both?
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Ezri mentioned a USS Grissom that was destroyed with only five survivors, out of 1,000 or more people. Maybe this was the Excelsior, but I don't kow if it can hold that many people.
 
Posted by PopMaze (Member # 302) on :
 
I'll probably get flamed for this, but even the DVD subtitles can be wrong. I've seen stuff like this before. One DVD I have is the "Gettysburg" movie. The movie is based on a novel so I know what the line is supposed to be and yet the subtitle on the DVD was different. I then checked with the regular close-captioning that the TV decoded and that was correct. I'll have to go check ST:FC on the video tape I have and it might say Manson instead of Madison. In that case, we still don't know for sure.
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Well, I got the Manson name from Frank Gerratana's Starfleet Ship Design site, where he had an audio clip. There are also other sites with this ship, but they can't decide on a name.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
I don't have the DVD personally. I have the good ol' VHS. But someone said it was Madison so I went back and just listened real close. Even if CC can be wrong, I trust my own ears, and I too say it's MADISON.
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
Sounds like Manson to me.
manson.mp3

[ July 13, 2001: Message edited by: Spike ]


 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Well, this certainly is getting more debate than I anticipated... Anyone else know the ship's name?
 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Nope, sounds like 'Madison' here.

[ July 13, 2001: Message edited by: Vogon Poet ]


 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Just took the time to go through the actual list, and I'd like to query a few I don't think have been questioned yet:-

1. USS Bonchune?

2. USS Spector?
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
From listening to it, it could be either Madison of Manson, but I'm going with what the CC says.

Vogon:
The Bonchune is the nebula-class ship from "Message in A Bottle" (VGR) and the last Ships of the Line calender. The name was not readable in the ep itself, and from the calender it looked like either Bogue or Bodue. But Mojo from foundation imaging (the CGI company that did the calender and the CGI models for the show) confirmed that it said Bonchune, after a colleague of his. There is some doubt as to whether it was actually on the CGI model in the show or if it was added just for the calender, but at least for now I'm including it for complete-ness's sake.

The Spector is the Akira-class ship in "Message in a Bottle" (VGR). The name and number were in the Fact Files.
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
thanks for getting back to me, Spikey. didn't know you were gone.

i'm afraid though, that i'll have to remove the excelsior Kongo from my list.
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
When was the Constitution mentioned in "Datalore?" I don't remember it. And this Zandura class? Anyway, I don't know about counting the Hiroshima as canon. I saw it in the back of the second Encyclopdeia, but not in the main body or the ship list. And they took it out in the third one. They changed it back to Appalachia.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
The Constitution wasn't mentioned in "Datalore". It was on a computer readout. And, even at that, it was apparently just a diagram of a refit Connie w/ the registry "NCC-1700".

The Zandura was a four-nacelled ship that was drawn as a possible ship for the battle in FC, but they never made a model and it wasn't actually in the movie.
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
I already know about the Zandura, I just haven't got around to posting the revised version yet.

The Constitution was seen in a display in "Datalore," in nifty refitted configuration, no less.

I like to include the Hiroshima simply for complete-ness's sake.
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Okay, here it is: the revised version.

Federation Starships

Name
Registry No.
Class
Source

U.S.S. Adelphi
NCC-26849
Ambassador
“Tin Man” (TNG)

U.T.S. Aeon
“Fututre’s End” (VOY)

U.S.S. Agamemnon
NCC-11638
Apollo
“Descent” (TNG)

U.S.S. Ahwahnee
NCC-2048
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Ahwahnee
NCC-71620
Cheyenne
“Redemption” (TNG)

U.S.S. Ahwahnee NCC-73620
Cheyenne
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)

U.S.S Ajax
NCC-11574
Apollo
“Where No One Has Gone Before” (TNG)
“Tapestry” (TNG)
“Redemption” (TNG)

U.S.S. Akagi
NCC-62158
Rigel
“Redemption” (TNG)
“You Are Cordially Invited” (DS9)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Akira
NCC-62497
Akira
Star Trek Fact Files

U.S.S. Al-Batani
NCC-42995
Excelsior
“Caretaker” (VOY)
“Bride of Chaotica” (VOY)
“Live Fast and Prosper” (VOY)

U.S.S. Alka-Selsior
Excelsior
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)

U.S.S. Ambassador
NCC-10521(formerly NX-10521)
Ambassador
TNG Technical Manual

U.S.S. Antares
NCC-501
Antares
“Charlie X” (TOS)

U.S.S. Appalachia
NCC-52136
Steamrunner
Star Trek: First Contact

U.S.S. Archon
NCC-189
Daedalus
“Return of the Archons” (TOS)

U.S.S. Arcos
NCC-6237
Deneva
“Legacy” (TNG)

S.S. Ariel
“The Eye of the Beholder” (TAS)

U.S.S. Aries
NCC-45167
Renaissance
“The Icarus Factor”
(TNG)“Identity Crisis”
(TNG)“Redemption” (TNG)
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Armstrong
NCC-57537
Challenger
“Apocalypse Rising” (DS9)

S.S. Artemis
“The Ensigns of Command” (TNG)

S.S. Astral Queen
“The Conscience of the King” (TOS)

S.S. Aurora
“The Way to Eden” (TOS)

S.S. Beagle
“Bread and Circuses” (TOS)

U.S.S. Bellerophon
NCC-62048
Nebula
“Emissary” (DS9)

U.S.S. Bellerophon
NCC-74705
Intrepid
“Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges” (DS9)

U.S.S. Berlin
NCC-14232
Excelsior
“Angel One” (TNG)

U.S.S. Biko
NCC-50331
Oberth
“A Fistful of Datas” (TNG)

U.S.S. Billings
“Night” (VOY)

S.S. Bonaventure
NCC-S1200
Bonaventure
“The Time Trap” (TAS)

U.S.S. Bonchune NCC-70915
Nebula
“Message in a Bottle” (VOY)
“Endgame” (VOY)

U.S.S. Bonestell
NCC-31600
Oberth
“Emissary” (DS9)

U.S.S. Bozeman
NCC-1941
Soyuz
“Cause and Effect” (TNG)
“All Good Things…” (TNG)
Star Trek: Generations
Star Trek: First Contact

U.S.S. Bradbury
NX-72307
Bradbury
“Menage a Troi” (TNG)

U.S.S. Brattain
NCC-21166
Miranda
“Night Terrors” (TNG)

U.S.S. Budapest
NCC-64923
Norway
Star Trek: First Contact

U.S.S. Buran
NCC-57580
Challenger
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
"Unification" (TNG)

U.S.S. Cairo
NCC-42136
Excelsior
“Chain of Command” (TNG)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Carolina
NCC-160
Daedalus
“Friday’s Child” (TOS)

U.S.S. Carolina
“Inside Man” (VOY)

U.S.S. Centaur
NCC-42043
Excelsior
“A Time to Stand” (DS9)

U.S.S. Challenger
NCC-2032
Challenger
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Challenger
NCC-71099
Galaxy
“Timeless” (VOY)

U.S.S. Charleston
NCC-42285
Excelsior
“The Neutral Zone” (TNG)
“Redemption” (TNG)

U.S.S. Chekov
NCC-57302
Springfield
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)

U.S.S. Clement
NCC-12537
Apollo
“Lower Decks” (TNG)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Cochrane NCC-8000
Oberth
“The Drumhead” (TNG)

U.S.S. Cochrane
NCC-59318
Oberth
“Emissary” (DS9)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Columbia
NCC-621
Star Trek: The Motion Picture

S.S. Columbia
“The Cage” (TOS)
“The Menagerie” (TOS)

U.S.S. Concorde
NCC-68711
Freedom
“All Good Things…” (TNG)

U.S.S. Constantinople
NCC-34852
Istanbul
“The Schizoid Man” (TNG)

U.S.S. Constellation
NCC-1017
Constitution
“The Doomsday Machine” (TOS)

U.S.S. Constellation
NCC-1974(formerly NX-1974)
Constellation
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
“The Abandoned” (DS9)
“Waltz” (DS9)

U.S.S. Constitution
NCC-1700
Constitution
“Space Seed” (TOS)
“Court Martial” (TOS)
“Datalore” (TNG)

U.S.S. Copernicus
NCC-623
Oberth
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

U.S.S. Cortez
“Favor the Bold” (DS9)
“Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)
“Far Beyond the Stars” (DS9)

U.S.S. Crazy Horse
NCC-50446
Excelsior
“Descent” (TNG)
“The Pegasus” (TNG)

U.S.S. Crockett
NCC-38955
Excelsior
“Paradise” (DS9)

U.S.S. Curry
NCC-45617
Excelsior/Constitution
“A Time to Stand” (DS9)

U.S.S. Danube
NX-72003
Danube
DS9 Technical Manual

U.S.S. Dauntless
NX-01-A
Dauntless
“Hope and Fear” (VOY)

U.S.S. Defiant
NCC-1764
Constitution
“The Tholian Web” (TOS)

U.S.S. Defiant
NX-74205
Defiant
DS9
Star Trek: First Contact

U.S.S. Defiant
NX-74205
Defiant
“What You Leave Behind” (DS9)

U.S.S. Denver
NCC-54927
Yorkshire
“Ethics” (TNG)

U.S.S. Destiny
“Shadows and Symbols”(DS9)
“Afterimage” (DS9)

S.S. Dierdre
“Friday’s Child” (TOS)

U.S.S. Drake
NCC-20381
Wambundu
“The Arsenal of Freedom” (TNG)

U.S.S. Drake
NCC-70956
Andromeda
“Apocalypse Rising” (DS9)

U.S.S. Eagle
NCC-956
Constitution
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

D.E.V. Eagle Valley
DY-950
“Up the Long Ladder” (TNG)

L.T.A. Elmira
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Emden
NCC-1856
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Endeavour
NCC-1895
Constitution
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Endeavour
NCC-71805
Nebula
“Redemption” (TNG)
“The Game” (TNG)
“Scorpion” (VOY)
Star Trek: First Contact

U.S.S. Entente
NCC-2120
Star Trek: The Motion Picture

U.S.S. Enterprise
NCC-1701
Constitution
TOS
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
Star Trek III: The Search For Spock

U.S.S. Enterprise
NCC-1701-A
Constitution
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Enterprise
NCC-1701-B
Excelsior
Star Trek: Generations

U.S.S. Enterprise
NCC-1701-C
Ambassador
“Yesterday’s Enterprise” (TNG)

U.S.S. Enterprise
NCC-1701-D
Galaxy
TNG
Star Trek: Generations

U.S.S. Enterprise
NCC-1701-E
Sovereign
Star Trek: First Contact
Star Trek: Insurrection
“Life Lines” (VOY)

U.S.S. Equinox
NCC-72381
Nova
“Equinox” (VOY)

U.S.S. Essex
NCC-173
Daedalus
“Power Play” (TNG)

U.S.S. Essex
NCC-1697
Constitution
“Court Martial” (TOS)

U.S.S. Excalibur
NCC-1664
Constitution
“Court Martial” (TOS)
“The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)

U.S.S. Excalibur
NCC-26517
Ambassador
“Redemption” (TNG)
“Survival Instinct” (VOY)

U.S.S. Excelsior
NCC-2000 (formerly NX-2000)
Excelsior
Star Trek III: The Search For Spock
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
“Interface” (TNG)
“Flashback” (VOY)

U.S.S. Exeter
NCC-1672
Constitution
“Court Martial” (TOS)
“The Omega Glory” (TOS)

U.S.S. Exeter
NCC-26531
Ambassador
“Non Sequitur” (VOY)
“You Are Cordially Invited” (DS9)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Farragut
NCC-1647
Constitution
“Obsession” (TOS)

U.S.S. Farragut
NCC-60597
Nebula
Star Trek: Generations
“Nor the Battle to the Strong” (DS9)

U.S.S. Farragut
Excelsior
“Chrysalis” (DS9)

U.S.S. Fearless
NCC-14598
Excelsior
“Where No One Has Gone Before” (TNG)

U.S.S. Firebrand
NCC-68723
Freedom
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)

U.S.S. Fleming
NCC-20316
Wambundu
“Force of Nature” (TNG)

U.S.S. Fredrickson
NCC-42111
Excelsior
“A Time to Stand” (DS9)
“Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)
“Relativity” (VOY)

U.S.S. Gage
NCC-11672
Apollo
“Emissary” (DS9)

U.S.S. Galaxy
NCC-70637(formerly NX-70637)
Galaxy
TNG Technical Manual
“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)

U.S.S. Galice
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Gander
Danube
“Penumbra” (DS9)

U.S.S. Gandhi
NCC-26632
Ambassador
“Second Chances” (TNG)
“Defiant” (DS9)

U.S.S. Ganges
NCC-72454
Danube
“Past Prologue” (DS9)
“Armageddon Game” (DS9)

U.S.S. Gettysburg
NCC-3890
Constellation
“Too Short A Season” (TNG)
“Treachery, Faith, and the Great River” (DS9)

U.S.S. Goddard
NCC-59621
Korolev
“The Vengeance Factor” (TNG)
“Redemption” (TNG)

U.S.S. Gorkon
NCC-40521
Excelsior
“Descent” (TNG)

U.S.S. Grissom
NCC-638
Oberth
Star Trek III: The Search For Spock

U.S.S. Grissom
NCC-42857
Excelsior
“The Most Toys” (TNG)
"Field of Fire" (DS9)

U.S.S. Hathaway
NCC-2593
Constellation
“Peak Performance” (TNG)
“Redemption” (TNG)

S.S. Hatteras
DY-245
“Up the Long Ladder” (TNG)

U.S.S. Havana
NCC-34043
Istanbul
“Lessons” (TNG)

U.S.S. Helin
NCC-1692
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Hera
NCC-62006
Nebula
“Interface” (TNG)

U.S.S. Hermes
NCC-585
Hermes
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

U.S.S. Hermes
NCC-10376
Antares
“Redemption” (TNG)

U.S.S. Hiroshima
Steamrunner
Star Trek Encyclopedia

U.S.S. Hispaniola
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Hokkaido
Renaissance
TNG Technical Manual

U.S.S. Honshu
NCC-60205
Nebula
“Waltz” (DS9)

U.S.S. Hood
NCC-1703
Constitution
“Court Martial” (TOS)
“The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)

U.S.S. Hood
NCC-42296
Excelsior
“Encounter at Farpoint” (TNG)
“Tin Man” (TNG)
“The Defector” (TNG)
“Allegiance” (TNG)
“Redemption” (TNG)
“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)

U.S.S. Horatio
NCC-10532
Ambassador
“Conspiracy” (TNG)

U.S.S. Horizon
NCC-176 Daedalus
“A Piece of the Action” (TOS)

U.S.S. Hornet
NCC-45231
Renaissance
“Redemption” (TNG)
“Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges” (DS9)

S.S. Huron
NCC-F1313
“The Pirates of Orion” (TAS)

U.S.S. Intrepid
NCC-1831
Constitution
“Court Martial” (TOS)
“The Immunity Syndrome” (TOS)

U.S.S. Intrepid
NCC-38907
Excelsior
“Sins of the Father” (TNG)
“Family” (TNG)
“Force of Nature” (TNG)

U.S.S. Intrepid
Intrepid
“In The Flesh” (VOY)

U.S.S. Jenolen
NCC-2010
Sydney
“Relics” (TNG)

U.S.S. John Muir
NCC-1732
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Kai Winn
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Kearsarge
NCC-57566
Challenger
“Firstborn” (TNG)

S.S. Kobayashi Maru
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

U.S.S. Kongo
NCC-1710
Constitution
Star Trek II: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Korolev
NCC-2014
Korolev
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Kyushu
NCC-65491
New Orleans
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)

U.S.S. Lakota
NCC-42768
Excelsior
“Homefront” (DS9)
“Paradise Lost” (DS9)

S.S. Lakul
NFT-7793
Whorfin
Star Trek: Generations

U.S.S. Lalo
NCC-43837
Mediterranean
“We’ll Always Have Paris” (TNG)
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)

U.S.S. Lantree
NCC-1837
Miranda
“Unnatural Selection” (TNG)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. LaSalle
NCC-6203
Deneva
“Reunion” (TNG)

U.S.S. Leeds
NCC-70352
Nebula
DS9

U.S.S. Lexington
NCC-1709
Constitution
“Court Martial” (TOS)
“The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)
“Trials and Tribble-ations” (DS9)

U.S.S. Lexington
NCC-14427
Excelsior
“Thine Own Self” (TNG)

U.S.S. Lexington
NCC-61832
Nebula
“Explorers” (DS9)
Star Trek: First Contact

U.S.S. Liberator
NCC-67016
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)

U.S.S. Livingston
NCC-34099
Excelsior
“Invasive Procedures” (DS9)

U.S.S. Madison
Star Trek: First Contact

U.S.S. Magellan
NCC-3069
Constellation
“Starship Mine” (TNG)

U.S.S. Magellan
Galaxy
“Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)

U.S.S. Majestic
NCC-31860
Miranda
“Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)

U.S.S. Malinche
NCC-38997
Excelsior
“For the Uniform” (DS9)

U.S.S. Maryland
NCC-45109
Renaisssance
“In Purgatory’s Shadow” (DS9)

U.S.S. Mayflower
Star Trek Encyclopedia
DS9 Technical Manual

U.S.S. Mekong
NCC-72617
Danube
“Whispers” (DS9)
“Playing God” (DS9)
“The Maquis” (DS9)
“The Die is Cast” (DS9)

U.S.S. Melbourne
NCC-62043
Excelsior
“Emissary” (DS9)

U.S.S. Melbourne
NCC-62043
Nebula
“11001001” (TNG)
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
“Future Imperfect” (TNG)
"Unification" (TNG)
“Emissary” (DS9)

U.S.S. Merrimack
NCC-61827
Nebula
“Redemption” (TNG)
“Birthright” (TNG)
“Sarek” (TNG)
“The Game” (TNG)

S.S. Milan
NDT-50863
“New Ground” (TNG)

U.S.S. Monitor
NCC-61826
Nebula
“The Defector” (TNG)

U.S.S. Musashi
“Treachery, Faith, and the Great River” (DS9)

U.S.S. Nash
NCC-2010-B
Sydney
“Chrysalis” (DS9)
“Trials and Tribble-ations” (DS9)

U.S.S. Nautilus
NCC-31910
Miranda
“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)

U.S.S. Nobel
NCC-55012
Olympic
“Interface” (TNG)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

S.S. Norkova
Antares
“The Passenger” (DS9)

U.S.S. Oberth
NCC-602
Oberth
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

S.S. Odin
NGL-12535
“Angel One” (TNG)

U.S.S. Odyssey
NCC-71832
Galaxy
“The Jem’Hadar” (DS9)

S.S. Oregon
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Okinawa
NCC-13958
Excelsior
“Homefront” (DS9)
“Paradise Lost” (DS9)

U.S.S. Olympia
“The Sound of Her Voice” (DS9)

U.S.S. Orinoco
NCC-72905
Danube
“The Siege” (DS9)

U.S.S. Pasteur
NCC-58925
Olympic
“All Good Things…” (TNG)

U.S.S. Pegasus
NCC-53847
Oberth
“The Pegasus” (TNG)

U.S.S. Philadelphia
“Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)

U.S.S. Phoenix
NCC-65420
Nebula
“The Wounded” (TNG)

U.S.S. Portland
NCC-57418
Chimera
“The Die is Cast” (DS9)

U.S.S. Potemkin
NCC-1657
Constitution
“The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)
“Turnabout Intruder” (TOS)
“The Pirates of Orion” (TAS)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Potemkin
NCC-18253
Excelsior
“Peak Performance” (TNG)
“Second Chances” (TNG)
“Legacy” (TNG)
“Ethics” (TNG)
“You Are Cordially Invited” (DS9)

U.S.G.S. Powell
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Ptolemy
NCC-3801
Ptolemy
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

U.S.S. Princeton
NCC-59804
Niagara
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)
"Unification" (TNG)

U.S.S. Prokofiev
NCC-68814
Andromeda
“Tribunal” (DS9)

U.S.S. Prometheus
NCC-71201
Nebula
“Second Sight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Prometheus
NX-59650
Prometheus
“Message in a Bottle” (VOY)
“Endgame” (VOY)

U.S.S. Proxima
NCC-61952
Nebula
“In Purgatory’s Shadow” (DS9)

U.S.S. Pueblo
“Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)

U.S.S. Rabin
NCC-63293
Akira
Star Trek Fact Files

U.S.S. Raman
NCC-29487
Oberth
“Interface” (TNG)

S.S./U.S.S. Raven
NAR-32450
“The Raven” (VOY)
“Dark Frontier” (VOY)

U.S.S. Relativity
NCV-474439-G
Wells
“Relativity” (VOY)

U.S.S. Reliant
NCC-1864
Miranda
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

U.S.S. Renegade
NCC-63102
New Orleans
“Conspiracy” (TNG)

U.S.S. Republic
NCC-1371
Constitution
“Court Martial” (TOS)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Repulse
NCC-2544
Excelsior
“The Child” (TNG)
“Unnatural Selection” (TNG)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Revere
NCC-595
Star Trek: The Motion Picture

U.S.S. Rio Grande
NCC-72452
Danube
DS9

U.S.S. Rhode Island
NCC-72701
Nova
“Endgame” (VOY)

S.S. Robert Fox
NFT-1327
Whorfin
Star Trek: Generations

U.S.S. Roosevelt
NCC-2573
Excelsior
“Unity” (VOY)

U.S.S. Rubicon
NCC-72936
Danube
“Family Business” (DS9)
“Hippocratic Oath” (DS9)
“The Die is Cast” (DS9)

U.S.S. Rutledge
NCC-57295
New Orleans
“The Wounded” (TNG)
“Nor the Battle to the Strong” (DS9)

U.S.S. Saladin
NCC-500
Saladin
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

S.S. Santa Maria
BDR-529
Erewon
“Paradise” (DS9)

U.S.S. Sao Paulo
NCC-75633
Defiant
“Dogs of War” (DS9)

U.S.S. Sarajevo
NCC-38529
Istanbul
“In Purgatory’s Shadow” (DS9)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Saratoga
NCC-1867
Miranda
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

U.S.S. Saratoga
NCC-31911
Miranda
“Emissary” (DS9)

U.S.S. Saratoga
“Wrongs Darker Than Death or Night” (DS9)

U.S.S. Sarek
“Favor the Bold” (DS9)

U.S.S. Scovil
NCC-1598
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Seaview
“Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)

U.S.S. Sentinel
“Treachery, Faith, and the Great River” (DS9)

U.S.S. Shenandoah
NCC-73024
Danube
“Change of Heart” (DS9)
“Valiant” (DS9)

U.S.S. Shepard
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

U.S.S. Shiku Maru
“Darmok” (TNG)

U.S.S. ShirKahr
NCC-31905
Miranda
“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)

U.S.S. Silversides
“Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)

U.S.S. Sitak
Miranda
“Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)

U.S.S. Sovereign
Sovereign
Star Trek Encyclopedia

U.S.S. Spector
NCC-65549
Akira
“Message in a Bottle” (VOY)

U.S.S. Springfield
NCC-1963
Springfield
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

U.S.S. Stargazer
NCC-2893
Constellation
“The Battle” (TNG)
“Allegiance” (TNG)
“The Wounded” (TNG)
“Chain of Command” (TNG)

U.S.S. Strata
“Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)

U.S.S. Sutherland
NCC-72015
Nebula
“Redemption” (TNG)
“You Are Cordially Invited” (DS9)
“Change of Heart” (DS9)

U.S.S. Syracuse
“Eye of the Beholder” (TNG)

U.S.S. T’Kumbra
Nebula
“Take Me Out to the Holosuite” (DS9)

S.S. T’Pau
NSP-17938
Apollo
“Unification” (TNG)

S.S. T’Vran
“Vortex” (DS9)

U.S.S. Tecumseh
NCC-14934
Excelsior
“Nor the Battle to the Strong” (DS9)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Thomas Paine
NCC-65530
New Orleans
“Conspiracy” (TNG)
“Redemption” (TNG)

U.S.S. Thunderchild
NCC-63549
Akira
Star Trek: First Contact

U.S.S. Tian An Men
NCC-21382
Miranda
“Redemption” (TNG)
“In the Cards” (DS9)
“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)

U.S.S. Ticonderoga
Star Trek: Insurrection

U.S.S. Tolstoy
NCC-62095
Rigel
“The Best of Both Worlds” (TNG)

U.S.S. Tombaugh
“Infinite Regress” (VOY)

U.S.S. Trial
“The Way of the Warrior” (DS9)

U.S.S. Trieste
NCC-37124
Merced
“Clues” (TNG)
“11001001” (TNG)
“Redemption” (TNG)

U.S.S. Trinculo
NCC-71867
Galaxy
Studio model seen at Star Trek Exhibitions. Possible appearances in “Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9) and “Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)

U.S.S. Tripoli
NCC-19386
Hokule’a
“Datalore” (TNG)
“Unification” (TNG)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Truman
“Field of Fire” (DS9)

U.S.S. Tsiolkovsky
NCC-53911
Oberth
“The Naked Now” (TNG)

U.S.S. Ulysses
NCC-66808
Nebula
“The Adversary” (DS9)

U.S.S. Valdemar
NCC-26198
Ambassador
“Tribunal” (DS9)

U.S.S. Valiant
NCC-1223
Constitution
“A Taste of Armageddon” (TOS)

U.S.S. Valiant
NCC-20000
Oberth
Star Trek: Generations

U.S.S. Valiant
NCC-74210
Defiant
“Valiant” (DS9)

U.S.S. Valkyrie
NCC-2590
Constellation
Studio model seen at Star Trek exhibitions.

U.S.S. Valley Forge
NCC-43305
Excelsior
“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)

U.S.S. Venture
NCC-71854
Galaxy
“The Way of the Warrior” (DS9)
“Sacrifice of Angels” (DS9)
“Tears of the Prophets” (DS9)

U.S.S. Veracruz
“The Siege of AR-558” (DS9)

S.S. Vico
NAR-18834
Oberth
“Hero Worship” (TNG)

U.S.S. Victory
NCC-9754
Constellation
“Elementary, Dear Data” (TNG)
“Identity Crisis” (TNG)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Volga
NCC-73196
Danube
“Body Parts” (DS9)
“By Inferno’s Light” (DS9)

U.S.S. Voyager
NCC-73602
Intrepid/Constitution
“A Time to Stand” (DS9)

U.S.S. Voyager
NCC-74656
Intrepid
VOY

S.S. W.E.B. DuBois
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Wellington
NCC-28473
Niagara
“11001001” (TNG)
“Remember Me” (TNG)
“Ensign Ro” (TNG)

U.S.S. Whorfin
NCC-1024
Whorfin
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

S.S. Woden
DY-100
“The Ultimate Computer” (TOS)

U.S.S. Wyoming
NCC-43730
Mediterranean
“Flashback” (VOY)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

S.S. Xhosa
Antares
“The Way of the Warrior” (DS9)
“For the Cause” (DS9)

U.S.S. Yamaguchi
NCC-26510
Ambassador
“Emissary” (DS9)

U.S.S. Yamato
NCC-71807 (formerly NCC-1305-E)
Galaxy
“Where Silence Has Lease” (TNG)
“Contagion” (TNG)

U.S.S. Yangtzee Kiang
NCC-72453
Danube
“Emissary” (DS9)
“Past Prologue” (DS9)
“Battle Lines” (DS9)

U.S.S. Yeager
NCC-61947
Saber
Star Trek: First Contact

U.S.S. Yellowstone
NCC-70073
Sequoia
“Melora” (DS9)

U.S.S. Yellowstone
NX-74751
Yellowstone
“Non Sequitur” (VOY)

U.S.S. Yorktown
NCC-1717
Constitution
“Obsession” (TOS)
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

U.S.S. Yorktown
“Flashback” (VOY)

U.S.S. Yorktown
NCC-61137
Zodiac
“Frame of Mind” (TNG)
“All Good Things…” (TNG)
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Yosemite
NCC-19002
Oberth
“Realm of Fear” (TNG)
“Whispers” (DS9)

U.S.S. Yukon
NCC-74602
Danube
“Sons of Mogh” (DS9)
“By Inferno’s Light” (DS9)

U.S.S. Zapata
NCC-33184
Surak
“Menage a Troi” (TNG)
“In the Pale Moonlight” (DS9)

U.S.S. Zhukov
NCC-62136
Ambassador
“Hollow Pursuits” (TNG)
“Data’s Day” (TNG)
“The Game” (TNG)

S.S. Zola
Peregrine
“Caretaker” (VOY)

NCC-G1465
“More Tribbles, More Troubles” (TAS)

NCC-G1495
“More Tribbles, More Troubles” (TAS)

NCC-1685
“Court Martial” (TOS)

NCC-1718
“Court Martial” (TOS)

NCC-4000
Transport Container
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

NCC-7100
Constellation
TNG

NCC-13471
Miranda
“What You Leave Behind” (DS9)

NCC-70564
Galaxy
DS9 ??

NCC-71325
“Caretaker” (VOY)

NCC-73918
Danube
“Tacking Into the Wind” (DS9)

NCC-75227
Star Trek: Insurrection

NXP-2365WP/T
Defiant
DS9 Technical Manual
____________________________________________________

Okay, 2 questions:

1. What episode of DS9 was the Grissom mentioned in?
2. Is there anything canonical that says the Shepard is Oberth-class?

Anything else you noticed, please let me know.

If a ship was mentioned in an episode that I don't have under its entry, please include this.

I realize that if it does indeed turn out that Starfleet existed in the Enterprise timeframe, there will have to be a great deal added to this list.

thanks.

[ July 13, 2001: Message edited by: The Mighty Monkey of Mim ]

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[ July 23, 2001: Message edited by: The Mighty Monkey of Mim ]


 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
That's better! The Grissom was mentioned in "Field of Fire."
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Oh, and nothing canonical says anything about what class the Shepard was.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Okay, thanks.

I've edited the post to include the FoF ref for the Grissom.

Oh, and I was just wondering about the Shepard because someone from an old post said there was some backstage info from ILM or the script or someplace that said it was an Oberth.

Anyone?
 


Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
 
Well, it definetly could be an Oberth as the first Oberth we saw was the Grissom for Gus and the second American in space. Shepard was the first American in space. Hell, it might even be NCC-637 if they went that linearly with naming that first batch of Oberths.

Although, I could've sworn Alan was Sheppard, so it might be named after the playwright Sam Shepard. Would be a good thing, since he's a damn good playwright.

Austin: [drunk and polishing his stolen toasters] There's gonna' be a general lack of toast in the neighborhood this morning. Many, many unhappy, bewildered breakfast faces.
-Sam Shepard True West


 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Thank you Stingy. That was so helpful I can hardly bear it.


 


Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
 
No problem Monkey. Just doin my bit to add a little culture to the Forum.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Okay. I've finally decided to change the "Jenolen" to the proper spelling of "Jenolan."

BTW, I discovered quite by accident that the correct spelling actually does appear in the Encyclopedia. It's in the 'runabout' entry.

I've also added two other eps of DS9 to the U.S.S. Nash's appearances.
 


Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
Move along, nothing to see here...

[ July 18, 2001: Message edited by: The359 ]


 
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
As I've said before, the Closed Captioning on the DVD for First Contact clearly says "This is Commander Luxi of the Madison". Done and Done...

And, for those of you who think it says Lexicon, it says Lexington as well.
 


Posted by Brown_supahero (Member # 83) on :
 
Close captioning rules.

hey i cant keep up with this. why don't we make up a starship list that everybody follows by. we can even put it on up3. at least there will be something up on there.
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Yeah, but far captioning isn't as great...

BTW, the closed captioning on the DVD might say "Lexington", but "Lexicon" came from the video closed captioning. It's definitely there; I've seen it myself.
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Bah!

It's Lexington.

Get over it.

And the Nebbie in that FC pic is the Lexington, too.

Chew me.
 


Posted by PopMaze (Member # 302) on :
 
quote:
Get over it.

And the Nebbie in that FC pic is the Lexington, too.


Believe what you will, but through deductive reasoning, I say it's the Leeds. I'll say nothing more.
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Monkey: I wasn't saying it was the Lexicon. I was saying that the video closed calptioning said that. 359's statement made it seem like he may not have known where the "Lexicon" reference came from, so I was explaining it.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Ah, so. But we're alla greed that the chatter really does say Lexington, n'est-ce pas?
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
Oui, mais pas tous pensez que ce Nebula est Lexington.
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Yes, I agree it says "Lexington."
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Spikey:

Je ne parle pas Francais, mais je dit elle est la Lexington.

Wait...is that right? Je ne sais pas. I only took high school French.
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Now don't everybody start talking to me in foreign languages, s'il vous plait, 'cause I don't know how.

Technobabble excepted, of course!
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
"Follar" this. Anyone who knows Spanish can look that word up.
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
Cmo es agradable.
 
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
*sets his sights on the next post to be made in this thread, and if it appears in another language besides English, someone's gonna be missing a head*
 
Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
 
Matt: a c'est un peu hostile, n'est-ce-pas?
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
OY!

That was Yiddish.

Knock it off you guys.
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
OK, Mim. Let's start another argument that has nothing to do with this thread's subject, shall we, everybody?
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
I can tell I'm gonna be sorry I ever got you promoted to 'Marshal.'
 
Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
 
Okay, listen up you newbies. As a matter of course around here, threads regularly wander off topic. If you don't like that, tough shit. Go somewhere else.

Thank you, come again.
 


Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
'"Follar" this. Anyone who knows Spanish can look that word up.'

And the people who don't know Spanish are forbidden to?
 


Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
*kills Fab*
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Hey, lighten up, Mim. It was a joke. Besides, can't I be an admiral? Please?
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"'Follar' this. Anyone who knows Spanish can look that word up."

And anyone who knows English can probably take an educated guess and not have to look it up.
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Why, TSN, I believe you have the word that "follar" means right there in your signature!
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Who's a newbie?
 
Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
 
You and Veers, Olinger.

[ July 20, 2001: Message edited by: Mr. Christopher ]


 
Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
 
Hey, don't forget me! I want credit where my credit's due.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Oh yeah!

Hehe.

Speaking of which, how did my thing get to say 'Senior Member' so fast? Does someone here like me or something?
 


Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
No. You're just posting like a crazy man. Calm down. Charles won't delete your account if you go more than 3 minutes without posting.

BTW, as a senior member, you're allowed to change that "Senior Member" to one of those neat little sayings that the cool people (like me) have. Ask one of the admins (that's TSN, Daryus, or Krenim) and they'll be more than happy to tell you to fuck off.
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
I may be a newbie, but I've been reading the forums since late 1999. I've been here for everything. I'm proud to be one!

--Marshal Maximilian Veers
Father of Zev
Proud former general
 


Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
 
Zev? As in Lexx Zev (sic Xev)?
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Zev, as in character from the Star Wars universe.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Liam: Frank's an admin, too. And I'm not sure why I even need to mention that CC is...
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I forgot about Frank. And Jubes

And I didn't mention CC, because I imagine he has too much time running the universe to worry about pifling things like changing status lines. The rest of you admins do bog all work, and it's high time you payed for your keep. Lazy fuckers.
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Update:

I've added the Transport Container NCC-4000 from TWOK, and the Galaxy-class NCC-70564 (Name unknown until we can figure out what it is) from the DS9 Calender.

What episodes of DS9 showed Galaxies docked at the the station, and could any of these be our mystery ship?
 


Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
 
I wonder when I will finally become a "senior member". But do I really want to? Senior sounds like I'm one foot in the grave! No, but seriously, I've been around since Flare started although I only joined in late 1999.
How someone can become a senior member in roughly one month is a mystery to me.
Well, not really, if 95% of your posts contain useless gibberish, then it's no wonder at all.
Anyway, don't smeggin' get this wrong!
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
Well, I would be grateful if someone could tell me why the hell I'm a 'Junior Member' for God sakes!! I've got nearly 200 posts, but haven't been assigned even 'regular' member status yet. So what's that about??
 
Posted by Austin Powers (Member # 250) on :
 
God knows (CC ?)
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Just read the "What You Leave Behind" novel again and found an interesting detail. On the bottom of page 84, it says Admiral Ross's flagship is the Starship Farragut. The Excelsior-class, perhaps?
And I just watched "Relics," and Picard says, upon being asked if he was familiar with the Constitution class, that "there is a Constitution in the Fleet Museum. He didn't say it was the only one left. Maybe he never heard or was on the Republic from "Valiant."
(By the way, I didn't know anywhere else to put this stuff, so I put it here.)
 
Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
quote:
Maybe he never heard or was on the Republic from "Valiant."

Or maybe the Republic isn't a Connie.
 


Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Except the writer of the episode said he intended it to be the Connie.

I think there's only one left in it's original configuration. Not Refitted. We know there are other Connies still around because there were three at Wolf 359 (one refit and two prototypes) and there were at least three in service during the dominion War. (The sans-engineering-hull model in the DS9 technical manual, and from the same book, the U.S.S. Curry NCC-45617 and the U.S.S. Voyager NCC-73602, the latter two being Excelsior/Constitution-class and Intrepid/Constitution-class vessels, respectively.)
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
There's also the USS Nelson in the WYLB novel, a few pages later. Interesting. They must've been named in the script. Novels are based on the screenplays.
 
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
I thought the novelization was by Diane Carey? She wouldn't give a damn about the script when it comes to starships. She has ideas of her own about how things *ought* to be in Starfleet, and if a ship named after a big naval hero from the sailing ship era was missing, she would insert one.

I could buy the Republic from "The Valiant" being a Constitution, but I'm not at all fond of the Republic from "Court Martial" being one. It would mean that yet another chance to diversify TOS Starfleet would be lost. There was never any indication that the Farragut from "Obsession" was a Constitution, either. Or, say, the Yorktown - but at least she was contemporary to the NCC-1701, and a more likely candidate to share her class.

Timo Saloniemi
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Where did you get this stuff about Diane Carey? Are you related or something? Or did you get this from her other books, say, "Dreadnought?" That's the one that has a Galaxy-class ship in operation during Kirk's time. Wrong, wrong.
 
Posted by Identity Crisis (Member # 67) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Veers:
Or did you get this from her other books, say, "Dreadnought?" That's the one that has a Galaxy-class ship in operation during Kirk's time. Wrong, wrong.

Totally different Galaxy class. 'Dreadnought' was published in 1986 - Before TNG. The Galaxy class here are Starfleet's first ships designed to explore beyond the Milky Way. They're also mentioned in FASA's Star Trek IV sourcebook. I'm not sure which book came first.
 


Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
 
Diane Carey obviously paid careful attention to the fan material when writing her early books. Her timeline is clearly based on FASA dates, and so is her technology ("internally metered pulse" engines, cochrane factors etc). Carey has been interviewed many times - www.psiphi.org ought to have plenty of links to the interviews.

Carey underwent a great "conversion" in the novel "Challenger", part of the "New Earth" series. She had already acknowledged Okuda dates for the first book of that series, "Wagon Train to the Stars", but in "Challenger", she quite deliberately began quoting whole chapters from the TNG Tech Manual (the best use of that technobabble I've witnessed so far). It was a rather hilarious experience, actually.

This does not mean that Carey would now be a strict canon-follower - quite to the contrary. She once stated that she deliberately used non-established ship types (let alone names) in "Wagon Train" to emphasize her view that in a realistic (space) navy setup, there are a great many ship designations, far more of them than indicated in canon Trek. I have no reason to assume she would treat the "WYLB" novelization any different - nor the "Broken Bow" novelization she's doing just now.

Timo Saloniemi
 


Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
 
Veers: I believe it's supposed to be "Cough it up, fuzzball."
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
I believe your wrong, Mr. Christopher.
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
Yes, the line definitely was "Laugh it up, fuzzball"
 
Posted by Mr. Christopher (Member # 71) on :
 
My bad.
 
Posted by Chris Weyer (Member # 705) on :
 
I have a few questions on the updated list post two pages back. I skimmed over the list and found some interesting things I would like to be clarified.

1. USS Enterprise D - Was it not docked at Deep Space Nine in "Emissary"? If so I think you should add "Emissary" to your list as one of the appearances.

2. USS Enterprise E - When and how was it mentioned in "Life Lines" (VOY)?

3. USS Essex - In the past I remember an Ambassador Class USS Essex being mentioned somewhere. Was it canonical or not? It's just a vague memory I have.

4. USS Hiroshima - This is the first I have heard of this starship being omitted from the Encyclopedia. Do we have an explanation as to why it was omitted, and were any of the CGI models on-screen labelled Hiroshima?

5. USS Lantree - When was it mentioned in Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country?

6. USS Voyager (NCC-73602) - When was this ship mentioned in "A Time to Stand"? If it was given this registry, someone should be shot.

It would be great to get those things clarified.
 


Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
 
The Lantree was on a computer display in Star Trek VI.
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
2. Troi mentioned that she would be going on a mission with the Enterprise. Actually, now that I think of it, it could have been "Pathfinder" or "Inside Man."

4. The Hiroshima was in the second encyclopedia, from 1997, at the back of the book in the ship chart. It was replaced by the USS Appalachia in the 1999 edition (also, the Nebula-class USS Phoenix shows up in the third encyc in that ship chart, replacing the USS Sutherland).

6. That name and registry are unofficial, and that class never showed up in an episode (to my knowledge). However, it would not be out of line if Starfleet renamed a ship Voyager if they thought the NCC-74656 had been destroyed.

[ August 31, 2001: Message edited by: Veers ]


 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
In 'Message in a Bottle', the Doc says that according to Starfleet Voyager was declared officially lost 14 months ago. This was in the fourth season of Voyager and had the stardate 51462. 'A Time to Stand' had no stardate but would have been in the 511** region. A matter of a few months before 'Message in a Bottle. So it's in the realms of possibility that if, after Voyager being declared officially lost, another ship bearing the name was commissioned...
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
So...Starfleet was looking for the ship for three years? Very unlikely. Unless they suspected the Cardassians captured it or something, I don't think they would keep a search for a ship up that long. Look at the USS Hera from "Interface." Disappeared, case closed.
Maybe since Starfleet found no wreckage, they kept up the search. And what about the Equinox?
 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
When Voyager began two story ideas I had was the ship coming across those Ferengi trapped in the Delta Quadrant fom 'The Price', and finding the USS Hera in their travels. The latter never materialised. But, the fact Voyager was missing for 3-plus years doesn't necessary mean it was constantly being searched for in that period of time. How long was it that Starfleet searched for Voyager when it disappeared out of the slipstream in 'Timeless'? Was it about nine months or so..? I can't remember.

Anyway, I would have thought in cases such as these a standard investigation may take place for a year, involving a search pattern around the last known coordinates, and tracing outwards from that point for a certain amount of parsecs etc. If nothing is found perhaps, whilst not participating in any active searches it simply remains an open case for a further two years, until then being 'officially declared lost'.
 


Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
I think it is important to remember that Voyager didn't just vanish out in some random part of the galaxy. She disappeared without a trace in one of the hottest political hot spots of the day. Think of all the theories that Starfleet might have considered. The ship was captured by the Maquis. Or by the Cardassians. Or destroyed by one group in such a way as to leave no evidence, which is a neat trick. Or maybe these new mysterious "Dominion" types had something to do with it. All in all, enough food for thought to keep Starfleet interested in finding Voyager for a long time.
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Interesting theory. Someone should've made an episode or book about it.
 
Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :
 
Arrgghh! been away from the board so long - (summer hols and no reasonably priced 'net connection where i was). So much information to take in, not sure what to post. [btw made a fool of myself thinking about a Capt. Beckett seriously :S]

Anyway, i'm too tired to sift through the data, but can someone give me the link to the most respected Starship list (with both Canon, and Non-canon ships ; how you define that is up to you )
 


Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
*...there now follows a link to all our individual websites...LOL*

Here's mine

http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/framesornoframes.htm

-Sol System, yes the political climate at the time would've certainly been a factor. The Cardassians I'm sure were seriously investigated in regards to Voyager's disappearance. But also the fact that it went missing in an extremely volatile environment - the Badlands. Perhaps many suspected that the ship succumbed to the dangerous conditions in this area, and Starfleet probably spent a good while searching for any signs of a wreckage.
 


Posted by Fedaykin Supastar (Member # 704) on :
 
thanks Admiral.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
quote:
I have a few questions on the updated list post two pages back. I skimmed over the list and found some interesting things I would like to be clarified.
1. USS Enterprise D - Was it not docked at Deep Space Nine in "Emissary"? If so I think you should add "Emissary" to your list as one of the appearances.

2. USS Enterprise E - When and how was it mentioned in "Life Lines" (VOY)?

3. USS Essex - In the past I remember an Ambassador Class USS Essex being mentioned somewhere. Was it canonical or not? It's just a vague memory I have.

4. USS Hiroshima - This is the first I have heard of this starship being omitted from the Encyclopedia. Do we have an explanation as to why it was omitted, and were any of the CGI models on-screen labelled Hiroshima?

5. USS Lantree - When was it mentioned in Star Trek: The Undiscovered Country?

6. USS Voyager (NCC-73602) - When was this ship mentioned in "A Time to Stand"? If it was given this registry, someone should be shot.

It would be great to get those things clarified.


Chris:

1. You're absolutely correct. I'll update.

2. I can't remember specifically. That came from Spike's list, where I got a lot of my episodes from.

3. No. There has been an Ambassador-class Exeter and an Excalibur, but no Essex. Thus was the basisi for a small theory of mine that you can read about in the thread labeled 'Museum Ship.'

4. As far as I know, it was a 'mistake' in the second Encyclopedia, and wasn't in FC, but I'm just including it to be as complete as possible.

5. The Lantree was listed on a display chart on the Enterprise bridge in TUC.

6. This is a somewhat controversial issue. In the Deep Space Nine Technical Manual, there are several ships depicted which are 'kitbashes,' or ships made from bits and pieces of others. Among them are these:

(a.) A Constitution-class Variant.

(b.) An Excelsior-class Variant.

(c.) An Intrepid-class Variant seen in several DS9 episodes including "A Time to Stand," to which the DS9 Art Department refers to as the Yeager-class.

(d.) Another Excelsior-class Variant, seen in DS9 "A Time to Stand" as the U.S.S. Centaur NCC-42043

(e.) An Excelsior/Constitution-class Variant, seen also in "A Time to Stand" as the U.S.S. Curry NCC-45617

(f.) An Intrepid/Constitution Variant.

Now, while only three of these could be clearly seen in the episode "A Time to Stand," Mike Okuda has told inquirerers(sp?) that all of these designs were in fact built as models and filmed for the episode.

It just so happens that that last one, the Intrepid/Constitution variant, bears a striking resemblance to the original Intrepid-class study model built in pre-production for VOYAGER. Pictures of it appeared in The Art of Star Trek:

Some people have theorized that it is likely that it was that study model which was used for background shots in "A Time to Stand," and that it is what the picture in the DS9TM represents, rather than a completely new-built model. I happen to agree with them, and so that is why it is listed as it is in my shiplist.

-MMoM

[ September 03, 2001: Message edited by: The Mighty Monkey of Mim ]


 
Posted by The Red Admiral (Member # 602) on :
 
I certainly like that theory Monkey -far better than confortably accepting the existence of that Connie/Intrepid kitbash. I never liked that ship, nor the Curry, and the Yeager is just downright nasty. But the Centaur I've always had time for, it's a remarkably majestic ship.
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
They may have been filmed, but no one has ever pointed them out.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
True, but there are several small blurs in the background, too fuzzy to make out clearly, that could easily be and probably are the unseen ships.
 


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