Do we have a "reliable" figure on the new ship's length yet? And if so, how long does that make the "pod".
I'm trying to estimate the length of the Engine Room set. I'm starting to think it woulnd't fit within the pod - maybe it's in the saucer.
I gues that might make the pod a torpedo/weapons launcher.
Posted by The359 (Member # 37) on :
Or it's for sensors...
Posted by Nimrod (Member # 205) on :
Another feather in the ST:E sympathizer's hats, eh "No, this item on the ship that is identical to the Akira class is a sensor node, not a weapons pod! That's 360 digrees diferant!!!!
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
Actually Nimmie, I was simply trying to establish whether there was sufficient cubage within the pod for a warp core.
BTW: Although I am impressed with the NX-01 interior sets, I am reserving opinion of the show until it has aired at least 8 episodes.
As recent screenings of TOS and TOS movies have painfully pointed out, the show was fairly campy - and had some truly awful acting/directing. (and I speak as a long-time fan). It truly has been overshadowed/overtaken by later avatars (TNG being the best IMHO).
This latest avatar may indeed be the best yet. Or it may suck my starboard one. Only time will tell.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I *SO* have to disagree with you there. As people might remember me going on about it a few months ago... here in Australia, we had on a cable channel a season 1 TOS marathon... over 3 days...
I watched nearly all of it... I had seen most of these episodes before - and thought they were... OK. I had seen them here and there. Watching the whole season together over such a short period, I got out of the whole 'dated' or 'sixties' feeling that I seemed to have had when watching an episode here and there, and I at last could truely APPRECIATE and ENJOY these episodes. They were TRUELY amazing. I feel I might have gotten a feel as to what it must have been like to live during the 60's and watching these shows as they first appeared!
I was truely captivated by every one of these episodes... Truly great stuff.
Then tonight, I get out my widescreen- Wrath of Kahn. There is NO way, you can bag this movie. AT ALL!
"Ship out of danger" "The needs of the many out way the needs of the few or the one" "I will and always shall be... your friend"
Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
quote:Originally posted by Treknophyle: Do we have a "reliable" figure on the new ship's length yet? And if so, how long does that make the "pod".
Three independent analyses point to a length between 225 and 250 meters.
quote: I gues that might make the pod a torpedo/weapons launcher.
The new oblique view doesn't make it appear that the pod sticks up very high... it might be entirely behind the bridge superstructure.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Given the current size calculations for the ship, the pod looks like it's about twenty to twenty-five meters long.
Posted by Treknophyle (Member # 509) on :
That would certainly be longer than the set we saw.
Seems like a stupid place to put your core though. Kind of like a big target...
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
True, it does present a big target that, with one good hit, could instantly destroy the ship. However, looking the oblique view, it looks as if the pod hides behind the saucer. It looks like it's only a good target from above, below, and behind. From the sides the nacelle pylons seem to be sheilding it, and from the front the saucer is sheilding it. And we all know the ships in Star Trek only fire at the fronts and sides of ships.
But, in all seriousness, I guess the pod being an effective target depends on the weaponry that is used in the series. Weak weapons may not have a huge disastrous effect on an unsheilded target. On a shielded target, it may do nothing more weaken the shield.s
Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
Another problem with having the engine room in the pod is that the pylons may not be thick enough to fit a turbolift... and it would be silly to have some sort of crawlspace leading to the most vital room. Imagine evacutations!
Posted by Siegfried (Member # 29) on :
Ah, I forgot about the pylons leading to the pod. You may be right about them being too small for a turbolift to slide through, but surely there'd be room for something bigger than a crawlspace. Maybe there a small stairwell/passageway that leads to the engine room if in fact it is in the aft pod?
Who knows. Maybe they will try and suggest a turbolift can fit through the pylon. After all, we're still talking about the possibility of a turbolift squeezing through the Oberth's pylons.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Isn't the Pre-E supposed to have some sort of experimental drive system?
Maybe they have to have the core suspended in the back like that because it has harmful effects on the crew or something.
Referring to it being an easy target, isn't that a deflector crystal right on top of it???
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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Maybe there are escalators that lead up to the pod through the pylons, and big water slides leading back down for evacuations.
Okay, maybe just regular slides...
Posted by Michael_T (Member # 144) on :
Slides? I hope that they are not the recycled ones from crashed airplanes.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Are the pod-to-catamaran braces really that thin? In the oblique shot they look like they could be a deck thick. The tilt's also not that severe... under 20 degrees, I'd say...
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Damn if that pod didn't make me think of the shape of the Galaxy-class battle bridge. The main bridge shape reminds me of the Ambassador-class one, too.
Posted by Daniel (Member # 453) on :
Well, in reference to a deflection crystal, you remember that the warp core is horizontal and the whole deflection crysal thing relied on the crystal having a vertical core to connect to, so it could deflect plasma into the impulse reactors. So it may/may not work.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
Actually, the whole concept behind the deflection crystal strikes me as quite odd, especially post-TNGTM, given that it's directly above the deuterium injector and nowhere near the warp plasma.
Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
Based on Andy Probert's designs, the refit Enterprise didn't have a matter injector at the top of the warp core. The injectors were at the bottom of the core, and the reaction occureed along its length. Some of the resulting plasma was used for impulse drive, "deflected" by the crystal. There is some canon support for this in The Motion Picture, when the warp core (incidentally, never called "warp core" until The Next Generation) is brought online for the ship's impulse acceleration, and sublight speeds are called "warp point-five" and so on. In later years, they returned to fusion reactors, presumably easier to use at impulse speeds. It is unclear if the original series Enterprise had this sort of setup or if she had seperate fusion reactors for impulse. There was never any mention of the reactors, but the series bible described impulse as "rocket" power, which would support a traditional fusion setup more than a deflected warp plasma setup. I propose that the plasma-deflection idea was briefly flirted with in the late 2260s and lasted through, perhaps, the 2310s.
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Apparently I was under a mis-impression of what the "impulse deflector crystal" was. I had always thought it was a miniature deflector-shield generator, designed to protect the impulse engines from damage. Sorry about that... Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
What's the point of the crystal, anyway? Wouldn't a bend in the conduit through which the plasma is flowing do the exact same thing?
Posted by HappyTarget (Member # 670) on :
Good point. But which looks better, a bent pipe or a sky blue crystal dome?
Posted by HappyTarget (Member # 670) on :
Why not just have a rope down the center of the catamarans in zero gee like the bad guy used in Final Fantasy The Spirits Within. That might work, but i think it would get expensive to doo all those shots for every episode.
