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Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
 

Just kidding.

Actually, this is the USS Antares of the USN. She is an Antares Class General Stores Issue Ship with the registry of AKS-33. On Dec. 7, 1941, the Antares was with the USS Ward off the coast of Oahu.

[ July 23, 2001: Message edited by: targetemployee ]

[ July 23, 2001: Message edited by: targetemployee ]


 
Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Release the hounds!
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
LOL, targetemployee.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Weren't she and some other ship the ones who fired on the Jap mini-subs, actually firing the first shots of the Pacific War? Or am I thinking of another ship?
 
Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
 
Yep.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Uh...

'Yep' to which question?
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
*head explodes*

Reminds me of a Foxtrot comic:
(over a golf game)
Roger: Should I shoot it to the right or the left?
Peter: Right.
(Hits ball, goes off course)
Roger: Next time, just say "correct."
 


Posted by targetemployee (Member # 217) on :
 
The USS Antares was with the USS Ward when the USS Ward fired the first shots of the war. So, yep to the first question.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Thanks.
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
"Jap."
Ah, racist slurs becoming a way of shortening words. It's good to see that the mentality of the 40's still exists.
*The Mighty Mim assassinates Marshal Veers, take over SW universe*
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Oh, I didn't mean it like that...

Sorry, Masao, (or anyone else) if you were listening!
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
I was just kidding, Mim.
 
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
I know, but I just asked a favor of Masao the other day and I wouldn't want to piss him off...
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
At leat no one calls me a Kraut or a Jerry

I have pictures of 12 different antares.. but who can decide which is the one they were talking about in that one episode..

*phhhbbbttttbllrrrbbll*
has aneurysm and dies
 


Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
"Jap" is a racist slur? Really? I mean, it's just a shortening of the full word. "Scot" isn't racist.
 
Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Well, now it is, but everyone called them that during WWII.
You're from (in) Germany, Mike?
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
It's all about context.
 
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
Take my word for it: "Jap" is a slur. Please don't use it. "Nip," "slant," "slope," "gook," "zipper-eye," "rice-eater," "ah-so," and "chink" should also be avoided (I've been called all of these at one time or another. I was also called "nigger" once by a confused young racist). If you don't believe me, try using "Jap" in conversation with a Japanese or Japanese-American.

I once got very angry in college when a friend of mine started referring to "JAPs." He was actually talking about "Jewish-American Princesses."
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
And yet, I'll bet you'd have a hard time finding a very large group of people who would consider "Yank" to be a slur...
 
Posted by Stingray (Member # 621) on :
 
TSN, it's called Mississippi.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Well, southerners tend to not like the term if it's used to refer to them, because they consider it a term for northerners. But, if someone referred to, say, a Pennsylvanian as a "Yank", I doubt we'd see the Mississippians up in arms about it.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Actually, let me put that another way that might make more sense. A Mississipian would react to being called a "Yank" the same way a Chinese person would react to being called a "Jap". They don't necessarily dislike it because it's a slur, but rather because it's just incorrect.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
My grandparents came from Germany in the early 50s.. Not that i look different from everyone else so its not a real problem except when i actually speak German with someone. I'm not even real offended by the ones I mentioned, but addressing me by referreing to the N word of the party that used to run the country of my grandparents birth during the war is more problematic.

I would try to add some slurs to your list, but it would just make me look like a pig. Besides, it seems pretty comprehensive.
But we still hate those filthy Cardies right.. never forgive em for Setlik III...
 


Posted by bear (Member # 124) on :
 
Ok, I realize this isn't the officers lounge or the flame board and that this has absolutely no connection to the topic at large , but what are everybodies thoughts on the possibility of the U.S. government paying reporations to African Americans slavery. I have really no opinion other the than the dread of the godawful hornets nest that will be dredged up if it becomes law.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Bear: While threads that go off topic aren't really a problem, if you want to introduce a new, completely unrelated idea like that, it's best to post it somewhere else. It's not a bad topic for a thread. Go and post it in the Flameboard (just in case).

There's also "Brit". There are a fair few Scots who'd have being called "Brit", not because it's a slur, or incorrect, but because the Scottish are an irrational lot. Men wearing skirts? Crazy.
 


Posted by Veers (Member # 661) on :
 
Although I am white, I hate it when other cultures are ignorantly insulted. For instance, an Asian kid I know was called "Jackie Chan," and asked if he found all the rocks to the "Dragon Cave." And I hate racist people. All of 'em.
It is unlikely, however, Bear, that the US government will pay reparations to African-Americans, mainly because slavery in the United States is almost as old as the country. Plus, Europeans also joined in. And I believe every slave owner and former slave is dead.
The idea is one to think about (the Native Americans got reparations), but it may never happen.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
You know, I can't see how being called "Jackie Chan" is an insult. That's like me being upset if someone called me "James Bond."
 
Posted by MeGotBeer (Member # 411) on :
 
Neither is "Brit."
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
How about Austin Powers?
 
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
Psyliam: I'm of an earlier generation, so Jackie Chan wasn't known when I was a kid. However, I was occassionally called "Hop Sing" (from Bonanza), "Fuji" (from 'McHale's Navy'), "Kato" (from the 'Green Hornet'), "Kwai Chang Caine" or Grasshopper (from 'Kung Fu'), and "Kung Fu." Take it from me, it's not something that I considered flattering. I was called these names for the simple reason that I was (and still am) a Japanese-Chinese-American. I don't care if these characters are considered cool or not; to look different from all others around you and to be repeatedly reminded of it, to have everything about you except your race ignored, and to be mocked by being called the name of a fictional character who bears a superficial resemblance to you are not pleasant things. I admit, I grew up in a fairly pleasant place (Minnesota), without the racial tensions of a place like California or St. Louis (where I went to college and med school), but I did run into plenty of instances of racial prejudice, ignorance, and insensitivity. I hope you can one day understand why calling a young Asian "Jackie Chan" is not acceptable.

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Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
Lets see how much arab and middle east bashing starts in our country over the next few days and weeks
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
"I hope you can one day understand why calling a young Asian "Jackie Chan" is not acceptable."

Go and tell me to jump if you want, but it's only an insult if you let it be. Accept it as a compliment, even if they don't mean it as such. Thank them for complimenting you on your martial-arts skills, even if you don't have any. Bullies only win if you let them get to you.

I've been called "gay" more times than I can remember. Half the time, I annoy the hell out of them by pretending that I think they mean the other definion of gay. The other half the time, I don't say anything, and let them think I am. I was getting loads of enjoyment out of Jeff thinking that I fancied Tim. Until Tim ruined it. The spoilsport. So I made him sleep on the couch.
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
You mean you don't fancy me? Well, I see how it is. I knew the fire would go out of our relationship eventually...
 
Posted by Masao (Member # 232) on :
 
Psyliam: I'm not telling you how to react to such statements. I'm just saying that you shouldn't believe that calling Asians "Jackie Chan" is ok.
 
Posted by CaptainMike (Member # 709) on :
 
Unless, of course, their name is actually Jackie Chan
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Masao: Don't worry, I wouldn't. I'm not that daft. I do have an Indian friend called Amit though that I call "Geofrey", because I have deceided that he is the worlds biggest Rainbow fan.

Actually, there's a Chinese lad at uni that we've called "Bruce Lee" before, but that's only because when we call him that, he goes into a hilarious mock martial-arts film style fight thingie.
 




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