In season 6 and 7 of TNG The Yridians seemed to be popping up a bit more often. Their ship was seen in "The Chase". Was this new model - or was it a redress of some older model?
What was that shite that Voyager said about the Yridians btw?
Posted by Akira62497 (Member # 850) on :
i beleave it was a redressed antaries class
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
I thought it was a redressed ship of the Tamarian/Talarian/Tawhatever-race (same race as Endar, the guy with the human "son"). They just added the spherical thing at the rear end. I've seen it a dozen times, and I'm sure I've seen it even before "the chase".
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
"Equinox" suggested that Captain Randsom made first contact with the Yridians. I'm not sure why that raises your bile while Picard meeting the Ferengi for the first time ever is somehow beloved fact.
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
The Yridian's were thought to be extinct - Ransom found them again. How the Borg knew they were extinct is beyond me.
Oh yeah, and in case you hadn't noticed, this is my first post in 73 days. I last checked this site 23/06/02, before we moved house and went on 2 holidays. I just haven't been connected up until . . . 2 weeks ago and not really had much to say since.
The smilies have retured!
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
AFAIK, the Yridian ship was an original model, with the distinction that every time it was used, it was used for the Yridians. It was never recycled as another race's ship.
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
I don't have any pictures handy, but I do agree with Dukhat. From what I recall, there were only two of those wing-like things pointing upward, and the forward hull was not the simple wedge of the Talarian ships.
Posted by Akira62497 (Member # 850) on :
is that the one in the Star Trek mag this week?
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Show me the pic and I'll tell you...
Yeah, the Yridian destroyer/transport from "The Chase"/"Firstborn" seemed to be an all-new model, with rounded shapes instead of the Imperial Star Destroyer kitbash hulls used in the two Talarian models.
And yeah, Ransom made contact with the Yridians when others thought they were extinct. The dialogue went something like this (paraphrasing Jim Wright's reviews):
"Do you know this individual?" Seven asks. "Only by reputation," Janeway says. "He was an exo-biologist, promoted to Captain after he made first contact with the Yridians."
Seven is surprised. "Species 6291. The Collective determined that they were extinct."
"So did the Federation," Janeway says, smiling. "Ransom proved otherwise. I always wanted to meet him. Too bad it won't be under better circumstances."
So one could safely say that this contact took place before we first saw Yridians in TNG. Janeway seems to consider Ransom her senior (except when it comes to wrestling for command), and the contact took place before Ransom made four pips.
So if we are going to see Yridians in ENT, no problem: just say that a few years or decades later, they will go up in a great ball of fire and everybody will mistake them for dead. This disaster need not be shown or even hinted at... Perhaps the Doomsday Machine will eat their homeworld? Perhaps, since they were information merchants, they saw it advantageous to withhold the information of their continuing existence?
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Ah, so I guess the Yridian Voyager comment wasn't too bad... maybe it's the fact that the Borg were so sloppy in their investigations about the Yridian's existance sounds a bit... wierd?
I guess nothing reguarding them since their 'appearance' in 2369 till Seven's disconnection in 2374 was ever assimilated. (If this is the only way Borg gain knowledge.)
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
The alternative is that the Yridian extinction took place after the TNG appearances, and made all the headlines. Ransom then found out that six individuals had survived on Backwater VI, was promoted to captain of the Equinox, and immediately disappeared on his first mission... The immensity of the extinction then outshadowed Ransom's discovery - a discovery that was only of academic interest, that is, of interest to people like Janeway. With Ransom's disappearance, his findings might even have become contested, or the remaining six might have died. Few assimilation victims in the 2370s would thus possess the knowledge of Yridian "survival".
I'd rather believe that Ransom made his discovery well before TNG...
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
OK , so it was a new ship. But did we ever get a better view of it? (BTW; I thought I saw it at Qualor 2, but I could be wrong)
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
What a brave corporate logo!
Posted by Captain-class, Mike-variant (Member # 709) on :
says you, fish-bulb
as i recall the Yridian ship had a painted card dedicated to it in some stupid card set. ill try to dig it up.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
That's exactly the picture I was thinking of earlier!
Looking at it, the mid-hull "wing" structures kinda remind me of a White Star, for some reason. Weird, I know...
Posted by USSMillennium74754 (Member # 822) on :
Well, since the Yridians have so far made their reputations as dealers of illicit information, it's not hard to see how they could drop off the face of the galaxy for a time. Maybe they're like the Hirogen: no homeworld, just wanderers.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Maybe they fed out dis-information about their race.
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
Isn't anyone going to welcome me back?
Did no one miss me?
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
Er, welcome back?
Posted by Captain-class, Mike-variant (Member # 709) on :
We must stay ON-TOPIC
If we welcomed you back, it would not be talking about an YRIDIAN SHIP, now would it?!
HA HA you astound me..
(BTW.. you were gone?)
Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
quote:"Equinox" suggested that Captain Randsom made first contact with the Yridians. I'm not sure why that raises your bile while Picard meeting the Ferengi for the first time ever is somehow beloved fact.
Yeah, and Chakotay was said to have made first contact with the Tarchannens, although we know that Geordi's experiences with them were not very pleasant...
The difference to the Ferengi issue is that we have *seen* Picard first meeting them, and it was *definite* that he had met the same folks years ago at Maxia, and we have also *seen* Archer making first contact with them. That's nothing like the two casual (albeit incredibly stupid) side notes from Voyager.
Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
Oh, I really wanted to stay in topic. It's strange that the Yridian ship was not in the Fact Files yet (at least not that I know of). Could it be that the ship was forgotten because the model has been heavily modified since its appearance in "The Chase"?
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
That would mean the ship became a DS9 model of some sort. But the prominent DS9 ships don't have components that could come from the Yridian ship.
Perhaps some less often seen ship? Or something from early Voyager? But the Yridian ship looked very detailed and intricate, so I'd have thought it or its components would have been used proudly on the foreground. Browsing through the usual reference sites, here's nothing with the teardrop-shaped primary hull or the forward-swept X-wings, or the odd stern hemisphere. At most, the mid-hull could have been reused somewhere, but why?
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
Either modified - or maybe, lost.
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
Gee, thanks Capped In Mic - glad you all noticed my absense - I feel so unloved & unwanted.
Posted by Capped In Mic (Member # 709) on :
are you back AGAIN? you left for a while again cuz i dont remember writing that so recently.
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