Does anyone think it was a little CHEAP of Picard to give Scotty only one of those smaller shuttles?
One of the bigger versions like found in season 1 and 2 would have been better.
Better yet a Runabout would have been perfect. I mean they HAD the set from DS9 by then and used it not long later in "Timescape".
I think maybe Scotty might have traded up to a Runabout.
I mean the shuttle he was given didn't even have a sonic shower or head!
Posted by Raw Cadet (Member # 725) on :
Did not the good captain loan the shuttle to Scotty, rather than give it to him?
Also, we do not know when "Enterprise-" -D received her runabouts, do we? Perhaps loaning a shuttle prompted Captain Picard to travel to a starbase so he could stock up, only to find Starfleet had introduced better and bigger craft, guaranteed to crash on any planet harboring a group of isolated people.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Sonic head, eh?
Posted by Raw Cadet (Member # 725) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Sonic head, eh?
Think of it as a twenty-fourth century bidet.
I am certain many of my fellow flareites can think of a number of functions a "sonic head" might perform.
Perhaps Captain Picard also loaned Scotty a poopy suit so he would not need a head, sonic or otherwise.
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
If we care about stardates, "Relics" took place on stardate 46125, and "Emissary" took place on 46379.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Besides, they didn't have a viable exterior set for either ship. The Type-7 you mention had a really dumb one-wall set for its exterior that was discarded after the fourth season; and the Runabout only had a door set to use as an exterior - the actual runabout (and a main shuttlebay to go with it) would have had to be added as an optical. And I'm guessing that even if they did think to do something like that, they'd have already blown their FX budget on the Dyson Sphere and Jenolen.
Mark
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Wait, the type 7 had that fairly spacious lounge area in back, no? Certainly more than one wall. Enough of a set for Pulaski and her packed-in-plastic superkid to interact from multiple camera angles, anyway. Or for Wesley and Picard to eat sandwiches.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Yeah, but that was only the interior. The exterior of that set was not even remotely shuttle-shaped. A wholly separate set (or actually prop) was needed to fake the exterior, and this only included the starboard bow of the shuttle.
And it was such a bad imitation that after the initial use in "Unnatural Selection", they never showed it in close-up again, unless partially covered in dry-ice smoke like in "The Host". Not to mention that neither the interior nor the exterior had a door... The model shows a rear door (with the impulse engine mounted on the door!), and suggests side hatches in the "lounge" area, but none of those would have been man-passable in the "Relics" scene.
Incidentally, both the interior and the partial exterior suggest a shuttle much larger than the TNG TM -reputed 8.5 meters. Something like 11 meters might be closer to the mark (and would justify the "medium shuttle" designation in the TM, as opposed to the type 6 "light shuttle").
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
Oh, exterior. Uh, sheepish grin? Feigning of eye strain? Rush to escape.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
In any case, giving Scotty that shuttle was pretty mean of Picard. I mean, he dumped Scotty in the middle of nowhere in a craft that was never really witnessed to be capable of interstellar travel. He did make vague promises of science ships that would arrive some day - but until then, Scotty would be more or less stuck.
Or did Picard simply give Scotty the shuttle but not the permission to depart? Locking him up in the thing would certainly have made life easier for the crew...
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
They did reuse the type seven exterior in "Ship in a Bottle", although I think it was reuse of footage from "Unnatural Selection".
And in any case, they had to fudge it. Moriarty and Shephanie Beacham got onboard a a shuttle that had the read of a type 6, and then they showed that it had the front of a type 7. I can't remember what the set looked like though...
Posted by Captain-class, Mike-variant (Member # 709) on :
I recall this happened in 'Chain of Command' too, with the type-6 interior.
Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
And of course, there is the age-old question of how shuttles can be taken on multiple-day trips. Sonic heads indeed.