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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
A fun episode tonight, without too much tech. Prized this time out is the acting, especially with Bakula being an EFFECTIVE character, and some good musical moments. Ah well, following up on "Future Tense" would be tough in any case...

-We open with the apparently ressurected (or repaired, or re-named, or whatever) Shuttlepod One drifting unmanned when Enterprise finds it. Note that despite the tumbling, the stars outside the pod when viewed from the inside remain perfectly still.

-Once again, we have a "Starlog supplemental" for a timestamp. I'm finding it a little annoying, actually, that we haven't had a real date for a while now.

-The antagonists are the Enolians, who thought that Archer and Trip are smugglers. They use weapons that resemble sawed-off shotguns, but their pistols are a re-dress of the old EM-33 pistol. Their ship is new, and not terribly pretty - almost Cardassian in nature. Prisoners are kept chained a la oarsmen! I kept waiting for people to start drumming.

-The planet where Archer and Trip were making Enolian first contact is Keto-Enol, which is "the largest trade outpost in the system". There are other outposts in the system?

-There are a variety of aliens on the transport, including a Naussican. Trip's seat buddy looks really familiar, and I think the guy sitting next to Archer is using leftover Reman makeup...

-Hey, is the Enolian important guy wearing green versions of the Red Squad pin? And while we're talking about wardrobe, why are Archer and Trip in civvies? It MIGHT have helped when they got arrested for smuggling.

-Enolians have small warp-capable patrol ships; Archer, now posing AS a smuggler following the inevitable prison break, manages to get rid of 'em by venting some (warp?) plasma and detonating it.

-As he is being driven insane by his seat buddy, Trip gets to mentions stuff like Orion Slave girls and a Melvaran. Melvaran? Melllvar?

-The prisoner leader, Kuroda, was supposedly accused of stealing a latinum brace at the shipyard he was working on Keto-Enol, which first landed him in prison. I wonder how strong a latinum brace would be...

-Enterprise finds the transport, and AT LAST SOMEONE SUGGESTS USING THE TRANSPORTER TO FREE THEIR CREW!!!! But of course, the prison ship's shielding is too much.

-Man alive, planetary CGI must either be really easy to do, or the Eden folks just REALLY know their stuff. Now, while the episode ends rather predictably, it sure looks pretty. Mayweather gets to shoot something, we get to see some nice (if coincidentally ill-timed) images of ships burning up in the atmosphere, and Archer be genuinely mad.

Mark

[ February 25, 2003, 07:59 PM: Message edited by: Mark Nguyen ]
 

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Posted by Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I don't get the title of the thread?
 

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Posted by Ryan McReynolds (Member # 28) on :
 
It was a prison episode, hence "behind bars."

I'm assuming this was meant for the tech forum, as the patented Nguyen Early Tech Briefings [tm] usually are.
 

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Yup, somehow I posted in there instead of here. Wierd...

Mark
 

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Posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov (Member # 742) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
-As he is being driven insane by his seat buddy, Trip gets to mentions stuff like Orion Slave girls and a Melvaran. Melvaran? Melllvar?

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Wasn't it Melmac?
 

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Wrong sitcom.

Mark
 

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Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Archer would be so much cooler had they named him "Captain Gordon Shumway".
 

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Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
David A. Goodman, you rapscallion
 

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Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
The prison transport seemed to have the same kind of aft glowy-bit as the Andorian ship from last week, but with a yellow glow rather than a blue one. Also, I think I spotted an Eaves-ish nacelle under the front of the ship...
 

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Posted by Starbuck (Member # 153) on :
 

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Originally posted by TSN:
Archer would be so much cooler had they named him "Captain Gordon Shumway".

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But then they'd have to remove Porthos and fill the cargo hold with fresh cats.

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Originally posted by Mark Nguyen:
The planet where Archer and Trip were making Enolian first contact is Keto-Enol

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I did some undergraduate biochemistry a few years back, and this sounds dangerously close to a half-remembered rule for chemical nomenclature. Anyone able to enlighten me here?
Then again, at least they're not resorting to the cheap Voyager trick of stealing alien names from Star Wars (the telepathic Bothan (named for the species that stole the plans to the Death Star, or the British cricketer - one or the other !) and Inspector Kashyyk (named for the Wookiee homeworld) readily spring to mind).

But I Digress... (TM)

Thank goodness nobody made mention of a Canamar Panal
 

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
I'm pretty sure that that transport was at least a partial redress of the Andorian cruiser we saw two weeks ago -- I recognized the aft section, and I'm pretty sure the nose was very similar. Obviously they gave it some new textures, and maybe a new middle section...

Those were definitely Red Squad pins that that Alien Official Guy was wearing on his collars -- weird! And who in the Wardrobe department thought we wouldn't notice something like that, anyway?

The design of the prison ship seemed awfully convenient in some respects -- they couldn't have built something a little bigger so that some of the engine compartments aren't accessed in the same room where the prisoners are kept? And how about having TWO doors instead of just one between the prisoners and the cockpit, which contains the pilot who is taking them where they don't want to go? It just all seems too conveeeeeenient... I suppose you could use the example of the school bus-like vehicles that US prison systems use -- I'm not too familiar with them, fortunately.

Once again, all the critical equipment is placed in a spot where it can be easily smashed. I find it hard to believe that that one whack of the pistol could take out the entire subspace transmitter!

Is it just me, or did anyone else think that the prison transport's cockpit was a redress of the normal NX-01 shuttlepod's forward section? There's no mistaking that silly little bulbous viewport...

Where was Enterprise during the climax? Or any of the other "thousands" of visitors (and the likely patrol ships -- all of which could have possibly provided some assistance with helpful things like tractor beams or at the least a grappler?

Oh, well -- at least the acting was very good this time around.
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Definitely good ship designs!
The patrol ships were pretty neat.
You guys ever notice that in sci fi the prison ships are always filthy rusty barges? Would'nt the same tech that keeps their other ships clean work here?
Do you guys think the Enterprise crewman got killed or just hurt?
Travis checks his pulse and just kinda leaves him on the floor at the time.
If it was TNG I'd say he's a goner...but Enterprise has'nt lost anyone yet and I think they'll elaborate on their first casualty.
Unless Porthos is the first casualty: He's been AWOL for three episides now.
I also noticed that the prison transport makes a big course correction while at warp....
...putting yet another nail in the coffin that was Voyager's horrible writing.
 

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Posted by Vogon Poet (Member # 393) on :
 
Apparently this isn't evcen the first time the EM-33 has been redressed as an alien weapon. It's a bit sloppy, isn't it? There are at least a dozen alien-weapon props that have appeared over the years (and some have already been on Enterprise) - they can't have used them all already, surely?

Also, I've received a vague notification of a 'new rifle carried by Travis' - can anyone confirm this? Bearing in mind my source seemed a bit confused as to who was who (and since such a scenario would actually require the Mayweather to actually do, or even say, something - which is totally unlikely).
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
The DS9 "mine prop" is also present: stacked up next to the cockpit's doorway (on the prisoner side of course).
 

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Posted by J (Member # 608) on :
 
I still think that "speed of light, no left or right" dealt more with racing than with actual application. Your turning radius at the speed of light is going to be wretched compared to a quick sublight spin and re-warp.
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
NObody dropped out of warp during the trun....or on TNG either for that matter.
The writer for Voyager didint do their homework.
That's all.
 

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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
I just realized something that's semi-interesting. One Valerie Canamar worked as an assistant to Michael Westmore on Star Trek: First Contact and Star Trek: Insurrection. Coincidence?

-MMoM
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
I doubt it very much.
There are likely lots of things named after staff members that we still have'nt caught.
 

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Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:

I also noticed that the prison transport makes a big course correction while at warp....
...putting yet another nail in the coffin that was Voyager's horrible writing.

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transwarp shuttle built in your spare time!?

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Sounds like one of those old ads in comic books for selling seeds.
 

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