in the above mentioned episode of DS9 an Akira class starship will be destroyed by the defense plattforms.
Since you can see the Akira from above, you can barely see the reg!
Has anybody a clear shot of this reg? What's the number? Is it the same as for the Thunderchild from First Contract?
Greeting, o2
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
It is on existing reference photos... hardly visibly however, I estimates that we smile nicely and for any DVD screencaps please could.
I mean, it's barely visible on existing reference photos. But, I guess we could smile nice and ask for some DVD screencaps Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
I don't think they ever changed the registries on any of DS9's CGI models.
Posted by o2 (Member # 907) on :
Hi,
I have a cap, yes, but for some reason it is not possible to upload it. Don't ask why...
On Ex Astris Scientia you can read (in the starship section) that there is an Akira class starship with the reg NCC - 63646. Not to be confused with the Thunderchild (NCC - 63647). Maybe it is this one?
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Uh, the Thunderchild is NCC-63549. NCC-63646 is a number people thought they read off the Thunderchild when she first appeared in FC.
And if you're trying to use the Flare upload, don't bother until you're a senior member.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
...and you can only become a Senior Member after hazing and, of course, your tithe.
Posted by o2 (Member # 907) on :
Yes, you are right, the Thunderchild is NCC-63549.
But - again - what about this ship from TptP? Anyone able to identify the reg?
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
You can e-mail me with the pic . . . I'll host it for ya.
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
Looks like 63425 to me.
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
I'm fairly certain that Mojo confirmed that they never bothered altering the Akira's reg number from the Thunderchild's original image maps, throughout the run of DS9.
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Maybe because we were never going to get a close-up shot of one? But, it really does look like 63425 to me as well.
Posted by o2 (Member # 907) on :
I agree with a 63xxx as reg. The fourth digit looks like a 4 to me, not like a 2. And the third and fifth digit could be anything like 5,6,8 or 9.
Unfortunately, in this case it could be the reg of the Thunderchild. Would this be a contradiction? Did we saw the destruction of the Thunderchild in First Contract or in any other episode of DS9 (Thunderchild identified by reg)?
Mayby we now have the "proof" that the Thunderthild eventually was destroyed during this battle.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
THe only other Akiras with a registries I've seen were part od that card game: those were the Spector and the Jupiter. Fucked if I can find where those registries are though....mabye MMM's site has it...
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
I don't think shots like this can count as proof of an individual ships destruction. Or even that it existed. The number was never changed, and was never meant to be seen closely. If the model dudes have made an effort to change the registry on a CGI or physical model, then we can assume that said ship is what it's labelled as (for instance, the Venture). But if it hasn't been changed, then it's just a random ship. Unless all those Excelsior class ships the Enterprise-D kept meeting really were the Hood, and the Captain just lied about the name.
Posted by o2 (Member # 907) on :
But in this case you can (almost) see the reg of the Akira! And you can see its destruction very clearly.
I know that we saw other Akira under fire and some of them were serious damaged, too, but since we can't read their reg, it doesn't matter.
The same thing with the "hoodish" Excelsiors. Even if the model was labeled so, it was not visible on the screen. So we don't have a contradicion, when a captain named it .
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Remember folks, Mojo worked for FOUNDATION. In the whole stretch of DS9, Foundation's biggest contributions were key shots in "Sacrifice of Angels" because to do the whole episode was beyond any one FX house's capabilities. In whatever shots he did for DS9, he does confirm either not altering or simply removing any names and reg numbers. Everything else was Digital Domain, including "Tears of the Prophets".
Now, in TotP we DID see individual registries for Galaxy, Valley Forge, Shir Kahr and presumably Hood. It stands to reason that DD *did* whip something up for that Akira too... We've just not yet been able to read it properly.
Mark
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
To me, it looks like it's 634 something something. Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
Even though the Hood was given the Lakota's number. So do we say it was the Hood and just ignore the number or do we say it was the Lakota refitted back to a regular Excelsior and ignore the name?
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
looks like the Thunderchild to me...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dat: Even though the Hood was given the Lakota's number. So do we say it was the Hood and just ignore the number or do we say it was the Lakota refitted back to a regular Excelsior and ignore the name?
We say it was the Hood or possibly pretend it says USS Dacota instead....
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