I know you're an extremely busy person, but I'd just like to give you a friendly reminder that if you get the chance, could you please post the pics of the U.S.S. Emmette from the title credits of ENTERPRISE?
Thanks, man.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
I got a pic a while back, which was a different angle of the Emmette in partial wireframe state. I haven't posted it or passed it on, but I didn't know if I was supposed to or allowed to (given discussion to the contrary on the other thread). Matt, can I or should I?
Mark
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
That's the delta configured ship (that was dubbed the Iceland by us)? I'm currently building a model of that ship, but with DS9/FC era technology, as a frigate.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
No, the Iceland is the delta we see in the show - the Emmette is the arguably early warp ship we see in the credits, which is most certainly NOT the Iceland.
Mark
Posted by MattC (Member # 1391) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: I got a pic a while back, which was a different angle of the Emmette in partial wireframe state. I haven't posted it or passed it on, but I didn't know if I was supposed to or allowed to (given discussion to the contrary on the other thread). Matt, can I or should I?
Mark
Well, I'd rather you didn't other than to confirm what I said.
For the rest, Mark seemed to bea good guy to independently verify it all. So there you have it.
M.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: No, the Iceland is the delta we see in the show - the Emmette is the arguably early warp ship we see in the credits, which is most certainly NOT the Iceland.
Mark
Ah...
Is it the smae ship that Archer has the RC model of though? You'd think you could screencap that for some piics in a snap.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
I hobbled together a rough three plan of what I thought the Moon-Orbiter ship looked like... but before I could get to scanning it - it was thrown out... not by me of course.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
quote: Is it the same ship that Archer has the RC model of though?
Not the same. All three "flying wings" are distinct, at least in terms of their tails: the Emmette has the Imperial Star Destroyer circular engine nozzle layout, the Iceland has two narrow nozzles, and Archer's model ship has two rectangles.
It remains to be seen how similar the hulls of the first two ships are; the model ship has a very angular delta shape that doesn't look anything like the Iceland in closer analysis.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Well, although I'm disappointed that I won't get to see the ship, I can understand why you're reticent to show it, considering what you've stated before. Thanks anyway for showing us the Ambassador stuff.
Posted by MattC (Member # 1391) on :
quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: Well, although I'm disappointed that I won't get to see the ship, I can understand why you're reticent to show it, considering what you've stated before. Thanks anyway for showing us the Ambassador stuff.
It was merely to answer a specific question. i.e. what it was called. The rest of the ship is somewhat uninteresting.
M
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Unintersting to some, not us - after all we did have like a 100 page discussion about tiny background ships that were shown for 30 seconds on a television show in 1990! Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
And that's definitely what it was labelled/how it was spelt(spelled)?
Posted by MattC (Member # 1391) on :
Yes, it's definately what it was called.
M
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
Confirmed!
Mark
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
Thank you!
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
Still some ambiguity there...
Was the name actually painted on the ship (that is, textured on the model)?
And was the model finished to a level of detail comparable to the warp delta or the half-saucer, or perhaps left completely untextured from certain angles, or something in between?
Looking forward to hearing all the answers and giving nothing in return, as usual.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Well there was this sketch and it was labled "Streamrunner" but then...
Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
Matt, I am familiar with your expressed grievances with the online community regarding the theft of your own work, but I am curious as to why you are so reluctant to release this image. You didn't work on Enterprise, did you? This model doesn't represent your work, and I very much doubt that Paramount is going to be overly concerned with the distribution of an image of an unfinished model from a canceled television show that will almost certainly see no further use within the franchise. I don't see how it could appreciably compromise either the financial or creative entitlements of anyone involved.
Just a thought, -MMoM Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
We are talking about this picture, right? (Note: nope, I didn't steal it. This open directory was linked by MattC himself, over in whatever topic the Ambassador pics featured in).
Which IMO, quite clearly shows that the forward bits of the vessel are hardly detailed. Seems quite unlikely anyone bothered to put a name on it (I mean.. even Intrepid wasn't given any decals, and that one actually had a name in the script). But LW files need a name, so someone called it USS Emette, after whatever an Emmette would be.
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
That's the one Matt linked to me. However, I think tha the textures in this picture are only low-rez ones applied for temp work or storyboards.
Mark
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
Well, Matt did say that's what it was called, not what it was labeled, which is a completely different question.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Geez, all this hoopla over a pic that apparently was already shown somewhere else. Let's all collectively feel stupid now...:-)
Anyway, now that we can all see the pic, I can say that I for one am more impressed with it than what's been discussed. It seems that the underside (what we see in the credits) matches the top view completely. And it is quite different from the Warp Delta as to be a completely separate class of ship. And although the front isn't very detailed, I still like it. It's the most believable-looking ship design for Enterprise's time period, IMO.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
What's most intersting is that, although it's a delta-shape, it has a saucer.
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
...ROUUUUND!!
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
Also, re: "USS"...maybe it's an American ship.
Posted by Ritten (Member # 417) on :
Mark, for the unrendered WIP it looks about right, a rendered image should look pretty good.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
quote:What's most intersting is that, although it's a delta-shape, it has a saucer.
I'd say it's more of an "inner-tube" or a "donut" than a saucer.
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
But it's a step in the right direction. After all, something must have made them view saucers as a good idea.
Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
Yeah, those bug-eyed, grey-skinned aliens that kept abducting them and giving them anal probes.
Posted by MattC (Member # 1391) on :
Can't think why anyone would travel a few million miles to stick stuff up your arse.....but hey, whatever floats yer boat.
M
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Page didn't work.
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
quote:Originally posted by Shik: Also, re: "USS"...maybe it's an American ship.
Meh. It's quite unlikely the model builder would've been initiated into Trek geekery enough to care about the prefix. So yeah, it's probably an American ship Posted by MattC (Member # 1391) on :
quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: Page didn't work.
Funny that.
M.
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
Ahhh.
Posted by Timo (Member # 245) on :
One of the things that make saucers at least halfway plausible is the idea that they would be atmospheric (re-)entry modules of aerodynamic shape.
But the Emmette is aerodynamic to begin with, and the saucer probably isn't...
I mean, here we see the saucer extends all the way to the top surface; the opening credits show it on the bottom as well. It's more of a saddle-ended pillbox than a saucer, really. Inventing uses for that fancy shape should be fun.
Timo Saloniemi
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Aqua-shuttle baby!
Or, maybe it's just a freighter between the Lunar colony and earth.
Or it's the Moonites' ship- making First Contact with suberbia.
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
You mean The Mooninites?
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Awww yeah. You sir, are the Moon-Master. Posted by Toadkiller (Member # 425) on :
Don't believe Timo - it isn't the Iceland it is the Finland.
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