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Posted by Qurras (Member # 2155) on :
 
While this is renewing a past topic I hope you don't mind a newbie putting in his thoughts to this subject.
The Klingon Bird of Prey was originally designed as a Romulan vessel, but was changed at the last minute in the script for Star Trek Three "The Search for Spock"
One: The feather pattern on the wings were supposed to be part of the defensive sheild grid system.
Two: The wigns themselves were needed for the Cloaking device. Why? Has never been anwsered.
Three: The Larger K'Vort Clas BoP has its wings up because the models wing movement mechanism was broken and there wasn't time in the shooting schedule to fix then. So now The K'Vort Class became a larger ship that can not land on a planet.
Four: The smaller BoP the B'rel is listed as a scout ship, while the larger K'Vort class is listed as a cruiser.
I do have some knowledge of things that happened during production of the show, especially when it came to props like the verious Klingon Starships.
 

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
I've never heard the one about the 'wings' being required for the cloak to work.

I think it was just a stylistic hold-over from the 'Bird of Prey' idea.
 

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Posted by Malnurtured Snay (Member # 411) on :
 
I don't mind the wings -- it gives the BoP a very predatory appearance. Maybe they don't serve any purpose other than aesthetic -- on the other hand, BoPs may be designed to operate in atmosphere as much as space -- but the BoP is a fierce looking little (or, uh, big) attack ship.
 

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Posted by Qurras (Member # 2155) on :
 
Ya, I'm sure your right about the wings. I went back to check my source and it was a piece of fan fiction. So there ya go!
Should have checked my sources before adding anything to this board. You guys are sharp!
Qurras epetaI-DoQ'Marr
Captain IKV Empire's Glory
a.k.a.
 

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Welcome to Flare Sci-Fi Forums!
 

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Posted by Greg S (Member # 2143) on :
 
The Klingon BOP is a bit of an enigma. I believe there are at least 3 different sizes (B'rel, K'vort, and toQDuj'a'). My favorite being the K'vort battlecruiser because it is just the right size to be menacing (these ships are featured in a number of TNG episodes, most notably "Yesterday's Enterprise". But a number of star ships have this size issue, and it's not exclusive to Star Trek. You would think with most series produced in the last 15 years or so using CAD, that correct size would no longer be an issue.
 

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Posted by Qurras (Member # 2155) on :
 
I try to work with canon as much as possible. While the size dilemma has been going on for years now. I stick with whats been on the Movie and TV episodes. The main problem is the same for any Science Fiction that shows a view of spacecraft from the outside, Perspective! Is it huge and faraway or tiny and Close-up? You can't tell unless one overlaps another.
Thus the problem. If you care to check out my website you'll notice I only talk about B'rel and K'vort as I have nothing else to base a third type on except an old out dated defunct game no longer published by FASA
 

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Posted by Qurras (Member # 2155) on :
 
P.S. don't check out my website because I am a spammer.

[ May 15, 2009, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: Charles Capps ]
 

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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
I hear VRML is going to be the newest craze in online Virtual-3D representation, fo shizzle.
 

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Posted by Charles Capps (Member # 9) on :
 
Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick.

At least we've gone from every new member being a spammer to only one out of four.

I'm not banning this one, 'cause at least he's trying.
 

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Posted by Qurras (Member # 2155) on :
 
If you don't appreciate intelligence you should have noted that before before anyone ever signed on to this so called discussion site.
I don't like being called a spammer. I wanted people to view the photos to make my point clearer, but if you don't want to learn any thing why come here. I've admitted that others have made good points and I could be wrong in the passed. I guess I was wrong when I thought I was dealing with other adults. Have a nice life.
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Seeya, Spamming Moron, we'll always recall how you enriched our lives with whatever you were talking about...I forget what exactly.
 

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Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Seeya, Spamming Moron, we'll always recall how you enriched our lives with whatever you were talking about...I forget what exactly.

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Something about 'Where the fuck is PW at? we've not had much talk of:


1) Midgets.

2) Fisting Midgets.

3) Penguin Pr0N.

*waves from the middleeast dust bowl, atm*

Haven't seen the movie yet. probably won't until maybe a port that has it (not sure if Bahrain has it, not sure if i can convince people to go with me to see it with scribble subtitles)

*waves again, miss ya'll much*
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
PM me when you get somewhere you can both recieve a package and view a DVD.

What kind of "care package" can you recieve- I imagine it's kinda restrictive.
 

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Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
PM me when you get somewhere you can both recieve a package and view a DVD.

What kind of "care package" can you recieve- I imagine it's kinda restrictive.

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*types as he cries over his $1400 "Vista" Powerpack he just bought today at the NEX...(I'll explain below)*

packages? packages? for me?



Ahhh, the memories... my dad and i traded emails alot when i was on the Nassau during the 1st part of it's 02-03 war deployment (i tranfered off a month before hostilities started that year) and, at the time, Cleveland was getting hammered with snow.

Me, of course, being the asshat son, mentions no snow seen in the arabian gulf. frequently. i must of really torqed my dad (had no clue, honestly) because he did get revenge, after a fashion.

When your in the military, nothing says 'Fraud, Waste & Abuse' more than care packages from home. getting comic books, smokes, porn, pictures of your GF discovering her bi-fisting side and egger to show you in person, and freshly nitted knickers from your grandma are awesome, especially when you young in the services. being in the navy is no exception.

now, some of the kids where getting huge crates of shit, i occationally got a small package with mail clippings and what ever BFG bs he got from work, usually related to planes and landing gear.

until one day....

the box i recieved was... what, 4 X 4", the size of a typical pizza box. i picked it up, shook it. i was curious (this fucker is light. what he mail me?) and thus the marines around me (Nassau = Marine Taxi service) that worked in my shop were curious too. i unwrapped the papers... where fuck me, it IS a pizza box (what's in it?). So i open it...

my dad. Dear, Dear Dad.... is fucking evil sometimes. He don't get mad, he fucks you up...

i opened the box.... and nothing was inside. empty. echo... well there was the stains from the previously there pizza. i was like WHAT THE FUCK??? My dad, dear, dear dad, wrote on the inside of the box (which became SOP as the Pizzabox became the standard mailing device for him after that) That 'There was a pizza in here... and it was GOOD.'


Yeah, i was royally fucked up.

There there was the gopher that sang 'Anchor's Away, my love' but that's another story...

oh, that 1400 dollar powerpack? I bought a new Vista-Viao laptop today, moved some of my MY DOCs files from my old laptop to the new one... and somehow corpted the boot disc (uh, no. hadnt made a boot disc yet) so my new laptop is fuckered.

thoughts?
 

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Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 

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Originally posted by Qurras:
If you don't appreciate intelligence you should have noted that before before anyone ever signed on to this so called discussion site.
I don't like being called a spammer. I wanted people to view the photos to make my point clearer, but if you don't want to learn any thing why come here. I've admitted that others have made good points and I could be wrong in the passed. I guess I was wrong when I thought I was dealing with other adults. Have a nice life.

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From the User Agreement that YOU agreed to:
Do not post for the sole purpose of advertising your website, service, or product. You should be here to participate in the discussion, not to drive traffic to your site.

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Also from the User Agreement that YOU agreed to:
Finally, some words about the Flare community. We've been around for a long, long time. We've grown comfortable with each other, and tend to be a little on the elitist side when dealing with new members.

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We're pretty up front about the nature of our community.

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Yes, We're Total Bastards.

hmmm....how does "Flare Total Bastard Forums" sound?

I recall when I first decided to join, it was springtime and Taft was still in the White House- the country was reeling from the passing of the 16th Amendment (of which I still say is illegal).
It was a time of collective anwe'- new states were being added, it seemed daily, and there was a growing concern about the "Irish Problem" at the docks.

Having nothing else to occupy my days besides indulgence in absenthe, collecting my graft and the occasional gathering at the Whitechapel Club, I decided to join this forum: foolishly overlooking the fact that the internet would not exist for some deacdes to come (damn that Marconi- resting on his laurels after recieving the Nobel).

Time passed and the electronic buliten board was created by mutants too freakish to venture out into public- and the seeds of the internet were planted in the fertile soil of pornography and science fiction enthusiast's analysis of the minutae of all things Trek.

Almost as soon as I made my first posting (at the finally mature Flare Forums), I was besieged by the slings and arrows of sarcasm and the verbal barbs that all new members must endure- why, my spelling skills, grammar and even my very name were the subjets of ridicule and scorn.

Yet, I knew that buried beneath the brambles of scorn and ridicule lay a succulent halucenagenic mushroom of acceptance and possibly some sort of discussion on starships as well.
 

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Posted by Sean (Member # 2010) on :
 
^I still feel like a n00b here sometimes...although, yeah, for all the atmosphere, and Treknical discussions...removing a few kick me signs from my back is totally worth it...
 

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Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 

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Originally posted by Sean:
...removing a few kick me signs from my back is totally worth it...

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