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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
So after years of patiently waiting (and the occasional annoying email reminders I sent), Mr. Dan Curry finally got his model out of storage and took some pics of it for me.

After I got the pics, I replied back to Curry asking if it was ok to distribute them. The thing is, he's notoriously bad at replying to emails (hence the years it took me to get these pics). That's understandable, as he's a very busy man.

So here's the deal: If I hear back from him immediately (which I doubt), I'll post them here. If I don't hear from him in the next couple of weeks, I'll just assume he doesn't care, and post them here then. I want to at least make the attempt to ask permission, and I'm sure you guys don't mind waiting a little bit longer, since we've already been waiting since DS9 went off the air

Anyway, I will say this: I'm a bit irked now that I've seen the original model, as the replica I built is wrong in several respects. First, the saucer is further back on the secondary hull. The decals I used were all wrong (turns out he used runabout decals, not Reliant or Excelsior decals). Curry used the top half of the shuttle that came with the Enterprise-A kit in order to cover up the hole where the Excelsior warp pylon assembly goes (I just used a sheet of styrene to plug the hole). The bottom half of the shuttle is attached to the back underside of the secondary hull where the tractor beam emitter goes. Said emitter is now under the shuttlebay in front of the ship. I think I'll try to rebuild my model into the Raging Queen, and start building a new model for the Curry.

I'll post more info soon.
 

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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Cool, and thanks for keeping at this for so long!
 

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
Wow, it's amazing how we can still dig up info like this after so many years. Next up, we're going to need HD screenshots from Wolf 359.
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Sounds crazy- can you cudgel together a basic side diagram in Photoshop or something to illustrate what all the differences are?
The 1:1000th scale Excelsior kit compared to the Runabout kit is quite small as far as parts go, so I'm trying to imagine where the Runabout parts can be that would not stick out like a sore thumb, scalewise.
 

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:

The 1:1000th scale Excelsior kit compared to the Runabout kit is quite small as far as parts go, so I'm trying to imagine where the Runabout parts can be that would not stick out like a sore thumb, scalewise.

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I think you misunderstood. I said that Curry used runabout decals, not runabout parts. The Raging Queen used some runabout parts, though. I'll post the pics next week.
 

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
Excellent nerdy-hounding!! Woo!
 

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 
Here's the pics:


















As I said before, some of the things I noticed were that the saucer is further back on the secondary hull, there's a little Enterprise-A shuttlecraft top covering the hole where the pylon assembly would have gone, and runabout decals were used on the Reliant pylons. Unfortunately these were the only pics Curry took for me, so I can't see the neck between the saucer and the secondary hull, or what that piece is underneath the secondary hull where the mounting rod is attached. I could tell that the bottom of the shuttlcraft is at the end of the ship on the underside, as I've already started building a new Curry model of my own, and that's what it looks like from that angle.

Also, as an added bonus, I was sent some old scanned polaroids of one of the DS9 kitbash rounds, in various stages of completion. Unfortunately, because Curry didn't build any of these models, he knows nothing about them. However, they're quite interesting: The Antares we've seen before, and there's what seems to be a standard Excelsior "U.S.S. Excel" (obviously named after the Microsoft spreadsheet program, lol ) And the Trieste looks quite bizarre; however it's registry number isn't the same as the canon Trieste, so obviously it's not the same ship.
















 

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Posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim (Member # 646) on :
 
Not an April Fool's joke this time, eh?

I really dig the Trieste, very interesting and exotic-looking vessel!

I'd say this qualifies as a worthwhile payoff to your persistent efforts! Thanks again!
 

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
Yeah, cool pics. Thanks for the effort, Dukhat. What exactly is the deal with the 3 other vessels? Do you know if they made it in one of the background scenes?
 

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
 
Neh, those last pics is an april's fool joke.
 

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Posted by Spike (Member # 322) on :
 
Nope, they were posted on April 2nd and the Antares in these pics matches the pics we got earlier.
 

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Posted by Starship Freak (Member # 293) on :
 
Alright, I read his post as: "posted April 01, 2013 11:10 PM" - but I guess I was wrong.
 

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Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
The Curry is a nice fit for the Miranda/Nebula lineage of ship designs.

Any clearer pictures of the Antares?
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 

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Originally posted by Spike:
Nope, they were posted on April 2nd and the Antares in these pics matches the pics we got earlier.

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I've never seen that "Trieste" before- it's a nightmare and I dont believe it.
A line must be drawn in kitbashing...this far and NO FARTHER!

As to the Curry...man, it's waaay worse than I thought! the secondary hull is SO TINY!
When I made my own, I assumed the entire Excelsior secondary hull was used....and I used nacelles much closer to the proper scale than those giants.


I was pretty far wrong...but happily so!

Thanks for these pics- once again, Flare remains the very crux of research into the smallest minutae of treknology.
 

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Posted by o2 (Member # 907) on :
 
Looking at the warp nacelles of the USS Curry, I wonder how they managed to make them glow. In the episode, the warp nacelle is glowing blue, but the model is not transparent in that particular area. Is there any information from Mr. Curry regarding this?
 

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Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
I'm pretty sure they use chroma keying or something similar to match certain colors or areas on the film and apply changes to add the effects. For example, the Centaur had fluorescent green paint for windows (see the first pic), which they substituted with the white lights.
 

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:

As to the Curry...man, it's waaay worse than I thought! the secondary hull is SO TINY!
When I made my own, I assumed the entire Excelsior secondary hull was used....

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I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. The entire secondary hull was used, and there's no difference in size.
 

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
It seems shortened to me- look at my model compared to the studio moedel- sure. I kept the rear hangar thingie, but that should not account for any exta length.
See how much farther back the seondary hull extends past the impulse engines of the saucer?
Could they have mounted the neck connection facing backwards? That would account for the saucer being farther nack along the secondary hull...

Of course, the jumbo nacelles are perspective are not helping judge the studio model...man, what a dog.
 

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Posted by Dukhat (Member # 341) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:

It seems shortened to me- look at my model compared to the studio moedel- sure. I kept the rear hangar thingie, but that should not account for any exta length.
See how much farther back the seondary hull extends past the impulse engines of the saucer?
Could they have mounted the neck connection facing backwards? That would account for the saucer being farther nack along the secondary hull...

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