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Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
What do you think? James Cameron to produce, Aaron Sorkin to write.


Premise

The show begins with the catastrophe of losing four astronauts on an EVA mission on Mars. This mission is Ares VII is the third manned mission to Mars to employ twenty-four people, with a previous four employing six each. The program has come under fire recently for costing too much money and not being a worthwhile cause (a carbon copy of the same type of criticism NASA has always faced) and there is pressure to cancel it.

A major public failure is the last thing that NASA needs. It is on the verge of expanding the Mars base yet again, this time into a permanently staffed and fully-fledged research station. In addition to that, there are also plans to finally approve a civilian funded and operated station. But this will also be delayed terminally if the government decides to prevent it.

NASA must do something to make up for this loss and restore public, media, and governmental confidence, and without delaying the program. The answer lies in Benjamin Stewart. Stewart was the second person to set foot on the surface of Mars on the first Mars mission, Ares I. After returning from the first mission in 2023, he entered NASA management, serving as the Director of the Mars Exploration Office. In that position, for the past thirteen years, he has directed and furthered Mars exploration.

Like John Young before him, he has remained on active astronaut status, in the slim hopes of flying again. But where Young didn't, Stewart will. Congress will allow the next Mars mission, Ares VIII, to proceed on schedule on the condition that Stewart commands it. But if a similar disaster befalls this mission, then there will be no stopping Congress from canceling the program.

The series follows the mission of Ares VIII and its various discoveries, adventures, and close calls. There will be twenty-four crew members and five or six main characters among these. The rest will be cast in the beginning of the series and be exposed at various points throughout the show. Though a research station may seem like a boring place to set an hour long show, it has two things going for it: the fact that its set on Mars, and the reservoir of accumulated stories from isolated research stations and expeditions that have ever taken place. With twenty or so other characters to draw upon, there are plenty of opportunities for character exploration.

Though it may appear that we are confined to simply twenty-four people in one location cut off from all resources from Earth, it is not the case. In television, it has already been done to have a main character separate from the others in a different location and under different circumstances. Another major focus of the show would be NASA and the NASA Administrator, Janice Hancock and the struggles to make the base expansion and civilian station a certainty.

Discussed so far have been the linear possibilities of the show's premise. But there is nothing preventing the shows writers from exploring tangents of the show that have little to do with the usual focus of the show.

Possibilities include flashback episodes which feature Benjamin Stewart during the Ares I mission and some drama that afflicted it, including major points, such as the landing and first steps. The flashback concept could be taken even farther back and show Stewart as a shuttle astronaut. If done skillfully and tactfully, the writers could present the problems that infect the space program today (without angering NASA too much). Another possibility would be to depict a conflict of a family in which the Ares VIII mission plays an unusual prominence and in the course of this, expose the viewpoint of the general public through this.

Along a more lighthearted vain, there can be completely absurd spoofs upon other examples of science fiction, such as Star Trek or the X-Files. These would have nothing to do with the main plot or incur any consequences in the 'reality'of Ares VIII, but would still be entertaining and enjoyable. The merit behind this idea comes from its innovation when taken as a whole. But when any of the individual pieces are looked at, all of the elements that make it innovative have been tried before, with some success, in other series and genres. The show could take on a serious or a comical tone, be ultra realistic or be absurd.

Arc Outline

There will be two and a half years of series time from the end of the pilot for the original cast to operate under the premise of being on Ares VIII before the crew would have to return home. During this time, such issues as human relations in confined environments, the reaction of people living in such an environment, exploring with humans versus robots, emergencies and the danger of being so far away from safe haven, the possible discovery of life on another planet, ethical issues concerning terraforming, can all be explored. Most likely, they will be done in largely stand-alone episodes, with continuing subplots exploring the personal relationships between the different crewmembers.

At the end of the two and a half years, the mission of Ares VIII can be considered such a success and political winds alter to such an extent that it is decided to expand the base into a permanently staffed facility at the end of Ares VIII. Command of the facility is offered to Benjamin Stewart and the crewmembers of Ares VIII are also offered to crewmembers first, so they are given the option of staying or returning to Earth. Any minor character actor who wishes to stay on the show can at this point, or leave the show at the end of the two and a half years. A major theme covering many episodes would be the crewmembers changing attitudes towards being on Mars. It could be established early on that some characters would most likely stay or go home at the conclusion of the two and a half years. Then, depending upon the attitudes of the actors and actresses themselves and whether they would want to stay or not, storylines involving their shifts in opinions of the characters would play a large role in the continuing arc.

Besides the stand-alone topics of terraforming, exploration, etc. is the overall arc of the danger of cancellation and the struggling of the program against political forces. During the course of the series, a new president could be elected and he supports the base by expanding it ahead of schedule. But this is a blessing in disguise as he has ulterior motives for doing so, and wants the Mars program to do something that it can't or won't do. Stewart and the program is then caught in the position as being the recipient of much more support than they ever had before, but only if they do something they can't or won't fulfill. If they refuse (and they somehow must be given the option of refusing) out of integrity, then it places the program in danger and can produce any number of political consequences.

One possibility for this is the creation of the Space Force, the dissolution of NASA and Space Command and integration of their functions into a new branch of the uniformed services. The president would support the creation of the Space Force, where NASA would be opposed to it. Though NASA would have political reasons to oppose it, Stewart and (possibly) Hancock would oppose it because of the belief that the Space Force is too military of an organization to conduct what is supposed to be peaceful exploration (the Space Force would actually be more similar to the Coast Guard and be placed under the Department of Transportation). If this were to be the crisis, then the outcome would be that the Space Force is created, and that operation of the base is transferred.

Stewart would keep command (though the possibility of him being ousted could be used as a plot), and the drama of the operation of the base being transferred could be the overriding plot for several episodes. A stand-alone plot could feature the Space Force trying to impose a police force upon the civilian colony. In addition to this, many plots dealing with the dynamics of the Space Force could be explored after its introduction into the series.

[ November 06, 2001: Message edited by: OnToMars ]


 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Why is it always "Ares?" Why not Tyr?
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
quote:
the danger of cancellation

Insightful.
 


Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"Why is it always 'Ares?' Why not Tyr?"

Because "Ares" is the original name for Mars, and "Tyr" is... a big guy w/ spikey arms on "Andromeda"? :-)

[ November 06, 2001: Message edited by: TSN ]


 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Tyr, being the Norse god of war, was associated with Mars in Scandinavia.

As for "original," surely the Babylonians had a bit of a head start with Nergal, no?
 


Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
Ok, well it was nice to get opinions before it spun off on a 'Andromeda' tangent. Thanks for the help, everybody.

Oh, and since NASA has a habit of usng Greek names as program titles, it only made sense.

[ November 06, 2001: Message edited by: OnToMars ]


 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Yes, I know who Tyr is. They only named Tuesday for him, after all...

What I meant was that Mars, the god, was a Roman renaming of the Greek Ares. Tyr may be comparable, but he's not from the same mythology (whereas the Romans basically took the Greek myths and changed the names, so Mars and Ares really are the same guy).
 


Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
Sounds like a pretty good idea, OTM. How old is Stewart. I'm picturing him, kind of like a Story Musgrave. A very energetic fifty-something, who many view as being past his prime, but with mad skillz and sharp as a tack. The one problem with the series that I can see would be the limited dramatic opportunities. There could only be so many dust-storms, meteor showers and 'I'm-lost-here-in-the-cave' episodes. The human drama part could very easily dissolve into a mundane soap opera on Mars. Maybe they find something: maybe some kind of ruins of a long-dead culture; maybe it's life (easy to do poorly and get cheesey); something dramatic and not colored red would really be necessary to keep the show vital. Maybe one of them gets cabin fever and kills off a character every four or five episodes an we don't find out until the end that it's... I dunno. Stewart! No seriously, I don't know. It just needs a little more. But I love the characters and the pre-built tensions with the program and possible earth v. mars militarization. Sounds good. You could get a bunch of unknowns and do it on the cheap!
 
Posted by MinutiaeMan (Member # 444) on :
 
I really like this story idea. I'm not sure if it can be made dramatic enough to be a TV show, but it definitely has potential nonetheless.

I'm guessing, based on your name, that you've read Kim Stanley Robinson's "Mars" trilogy, OnToMars? I see a number of similar themes here. The small group of astronauts on Mars, building the first permanent planet-based colony. Stewart reminds me of one of the main characters in "Red Mars" -- I forget his name, but IIRC he was the first astronaut to set foot on Mars.

Now, I'm not saying this as criticism. Your outline is a great idea, sort of a "Red Mars" adapted for TV. As I said, it has lots of possibilities.

One thing I'm not clear on, is just how big is the colony/settlement on Mars in total? Is it just the 24 people on the mission, the only Humans on the planet? Or are there others?

I'm asking because while limiting the possibile characters to 24 gives the writers a wide enough base to develop plenty of the characters, and maintain enough interaction, it also might limit the possible external conflicts that the crew would encounter. Having only 24 people, with a very small number of possibile externally based problems, would probably limit the number of potential dramatic problems for the series to address.

Still, it's a cool idea!
 


Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Balaam Xumucane:
Sounds like a pretty good idea, OTM. How old is Stewart. I'm picturing him, kind of like a Story Musgrave. A very energetic fifty-something, who many view as being past his prime, but with mad skillz and sharp as a tack. The one problem with the series that I can see would be the limited dramatic opportunities. There could only be so many dust-storms, meteor showers and 'I'm-lost-here-in-the-cave' episodes. The human drama part could very easily dissolve into a mundane soap opera on Mars. Maybe they find something: maybe some kind of ruins of a long-dead culture; maybe it's life (easy to do poorly and get cheesey); something dramatic and not colored red would really be necessary to keep the show vital. Maybe one of them gets cabin fever and kills off a character every four or five episodes an we don't find out until the end that it's... I dunno. Stewart! No seriously, I don't know. It just needs a little more. But I love the characters and the pre-built tensions with the program and possible earth v. mars militarization. Sounds good. You could get a bunch of unknowns and do it on the cheap!

Those are good suggestions, Balaam, but the one element of Ares that I would absolutely want to set it apart from other shows would be its realism. I would want it to be ultrarealistic in terms of space exploration, and I think there is enough drama in isoalted research stations from the past (Sealab, Skylab, Mir, McMurdo Station, Devon Island soon, etc.) to fuel this series. Also, Janice Hancock would be considered a major character and would be featured in some way just about every episode. When the program is in danger of cancellation, she plays a major role, and when the Space Force is being thrust upon them, she plays a major role.

Like I wrote, anything unrealistic would have to be patently absurd (Drew Carey and X-File spoof episode absurd). The possible discovery of life would absolutely be at least one episode, most likely two or three. But any life discovered or possibly discovered would have to be limited to one celled or less. No alien civilizations or anything like that. I would even go so far as to say that Ares borders on whether it's science fiction or not, as there would be no speculative science in it whatsoever. Think "West Wing" on Mars.

As the human drama part dissolving into a mundane soap opera; it is a concern. But as long as it's well and tastefully written, then it obviously won't be badly done. If done carelessley, it could very easily turn into Survivor: Mars. Above all, even in the failings of the crew to cope, should be the message that humanity is supremely adaptable to all conditions (and particularly that people can make a viable home on Mars). In other words, the underlying message is upbeat - unlike soap operas and reality T.V.

Nobody can die on the crew. If it happens, than the powers that be would surely kill the program and the show would end. If this show were made, my hope would be that it would be written well enough that it gets the audience excited about the finding of water. That when it sees the crew overjoyed by some discovery, then it connects with them. The end result being a better understanding among the general public about what scientific and space exploration is all about. Resorting to murders and alien civilizations would - well - be a cop out of what I want to do with this show.

Though, just as note, well into the third or fourth season: when the civilian station is established, and everybody is really settled in for the long haul to have the first murder on Mars at the civilian station. Thus, Stewart becomes the first detective on the Red Planet.

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Stewart!

I'm not sure what that's in reference to exactly, but just as an FYI: Benjamin Stewart is named for my father; Stuart B. Finifter. I named the character when I thought my father's middle name was Benjamin. It was, however, Barry. But Benjamin Stewart sounds a lot better than Barry Stewart. And the Patrick Stewart coincidence is pretty cool too.

And Stewart is somewhat of a Story Musgrave type. Past his prime, a man of supreme ambition whose accomplished all of his ambitions. Also a man of authority - actually, somewhat like Picard in his handling of his authority. He regrets somewhat focusing his entire life on a single thing to the exclusion of all else, and he wonders what he missed from the paths he didn't take. A faithful man, deeply devoted to his wife, but there is romantic tension between him and the CMO, Dr. Samantha Ross, and we get the implication that he might've been unfaithful in his earlier days. I wrote up a full character bio on him, which I might post later.

I think that's it, keep 'em coming!
 


Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
quote:
One thing I'm not clear on, is just how big is the colony/settlement on Mars in total? Is it just the 24 people on the mission, the only Humans on the planet? Or are there others?

Ok, to be clear:

Humans have been exploring Mars since 2021, the date of Ares I. Between 2021 and 2027, four missions are carried out with six man crews each. This places four habitats capaple of supporting six people each all at the same location, creating a base. Then, more habitats are landed so that 24 people can be supported (with suitable redundacy). Between 2029-2036, three missions with twenty four people are carried out. All of these are done NASA style, with the first four done like super long Apollo missions and the next four (including Ares VIII) done somewhat like the Station program.

During all of this, NASA astronauts are the only ones on the planet. At the completion of Ares VIII, the civilian base is landed, which is totally free of NASA control. Through the next two and half years, they will be the only other people on the planet. Also at this time, the NASA base is expanded to sixty-some and operations take on a McMurdo, Antarctica dynamic. Then the Space Force takes over and operations become entirely new and different. With the third conjunction of the series, we can land as many people as we want, making it resemble more the Mars depicted at the beginning of KSR's "Red Mars".

The idea behind this is the series is supposed to document the transisition between NASA Mars and New World Mars. Between Apollo Mars and colony Mars. The XO character, Peter Young, is the same age during the series as Stewart was at Ares I. He is supposed to somehow represent in personae his generation as the generation that will take Mars and make it a colony world.

And yes, I'm a big fan of the "Mars Trilogy". This is definitely influenced heavily by it, though the original idea did not come from it. Kim Stanley Robinson is of the opinion that the first mission really doesn't matter (thus the lack of any information in the trilogy about the early or first mission[s]), however, I am of the opinion that it does. John Boone was his name, and his birthyear is one off of mine. And guess when Benjamin Stewart was born - hey look at that - same age as me, what a coincidence!

As for the limited possibilities of character drama; twenty-four different and varied people, some engineers, some scientists, some Russians Americans or Europeans, living in cramped quarters trying to do different things, I think offers plenty of oppurtunities for character exploration. Like I said, we have the full range of stories from the past from expeditions, research stations, space stations, Antarctica/Arctic, submarines, etc. to pull stories from. M*A*S*H did it by pulling war stories from Korea and elsewhere and using them. Also, like I said, we're not confined to Mars. There's Janice Hancock, who would be a title character back on Earth heading NASA and fighting politicians and media at every turn. There would be other Earth-bound characters as well though I haven't really explored the possibility.

The problem I have right now is two-fold: (1)being able to create twenty-four fully fleshed out three dimensional characters that will combine with each other to be interesting and to offer interesting options to explore and (2) actually writing the bloody thing. Format, pacing, and all the skills it takes to actually write a script are beyond me.

But here, without further ado is everything you ever wanted to know about Benjamin Stewart:

Benjamin Stewart
Physiology
Sex: Male
Age: 53
Height: Six feet.
Weight: 165 lbs.
Hair: Black and graying.
Eyes: Brown
Skin: Fair
Posture: Straight but relaxed.
Appearance: Slender, well toned, good looking, tidy but not neurotically so.
Heredity: English and German

Sociology
Class: Upper middle origin, wealthy from Ares I and previous celebrity status.
Occupation: Fighter pilot turned engineer turned astronaut turned scientist turned celebrity turned hero turned private citizen turned manager turned astronaut again.
Education: Formal in engineering at undergrad and masters level. Informal in everything relating to Mars - including all science. Also knowledgeable in psychology.
Home Life: Married to a loving wife whom he is devoted to and has been for many years. He has two sons who are adult and out of the house.
Religion: Humanist
Race, nationality: Caucasian. English and German lineage. American from East coast.
Place in Community: Leader, father figure, undisputed authority.
Political Affiliations: Strongly non-partisan
Amusements, hobbies: Literature. All amusements typical to confined research stations.

Psychology
Sex life, moral standards: Monogamous but tempted (particularly Samantha Ross). Possibly unfaithful in earlier days. More hedonistic in earlier days, but tempered by age.
Personal premise, ambition: Earlier, to make history and further exploration/settlement of Mars. That accomplished (Ares I, Director Mars Exploration Office), his ambition is gone. But there is still a work ethic there that keeps him going with the intrinsic motivation of exploring/settling Mars.
Frustrations, personal disappointments: Being away from home/wife/Earth (paradoxically, he is happy at the opportunity to return to Mars, something he had hoped for awhile). Hidden disappointment at focusing his entire life at one object with very little else. Wonders how much he’s missed by focusing virtually exclusively on Mars exploration, which stems from his general interest in many things.
Temperament: Relaxed, world weary at times, generally optimistic, logical, cool, rational, understanding, firm, authoritative.
Attitude toward life: To take things as they come, to do what needs to be done, he is quietly but supremely confident, and feels he is capable of solving any problem that is presented to him.
Complexes, obsessions, inhibitions, superstitions, phobias: Not quite an obsession, but an overwhelming commitment to the furtherance of humans on Mars. Inhibitions, the standard of conduct imposed upon by celebrity and hero status. He loves his wife and is deeply devoted to her but he also secretly regrets possibilities not taken. No superstitions, completely rejects all without sufficient evidence. Is slightly subject to fighter pilot type superstitions in times of heavy pressure. No phobias.
Extrovert, introvert, ambivert: Ambivert, a private person by nature, though very comfortable with his father-like/authoritative/celebrity status.
Abilities: Accomplished scientist, engineer, and leader.
IQ: 135
 


Posted by Balaam Xumucane (Member # 419) on :
 
You've got a well thought out character there. I like him. You might try to come at the other characters in a similar way. Think about the elements you'd like to explore in the series: sex, race, disabilities, economics, politics, psychologies etc. Make up some treatments for some stories and arcs. One paragraph or a page or so with the basics of what you want the episode(s) to say. Frame your characters around these. When I was working up the characters for my series, I couldn't come up with names at first, I only knew the jobs they'd have to do on the ship. So I just called them their jobs. (There was an awful lot of "Gunner, can we hit that target?", "Nav, what is the distance to that moon?": It was pretty silly, but it let the stories come out, and made it easy to do a search and replace later.) As the plots for the first three stories played out, the details of the lives of these people fell into place. It was great. I find that as you get to know the characters, their dialogue becomes easier and easier to write. As they become easier to write, certain names will fit them, others won't. Eventually, you come out with some farily solid characters. Give it a couple drafts, maybe have your friends read parts to get new ideas, and you'll start having some pretty well rounded characters.
You've got great ideas. I like the way this series sounds. It's a little down to earth (HA! I kill me!) for my tastes, but I think if you can get some good characters and good stories in there, you could have a real winner. Keep us informed of your progress.

ps-RE: the 'Stewart!' exclamation early was implying that it was, in fact, Stewart who had gone mad and started killing his crewmates in the hypothetical juice-up. It's a dumb idea, but I love stories with those kinds of twists. Nevermind. Please don't pay any attention to me.
 


Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
I agree that names are rather unimportant. The only ones I've come up with are the main characters and the president. I've only done these because they are plays on other names, mostly of people I've known.

[*]Benjamin Stewart: I've already explained
[*]His wife is Melissa - a girl I was madly in love with for 10 days and madly love sick over for several months thereafter.
[*]Peter Young is a combination of the two astronauts that I admire most - Charles "Pete" Conrad and John Young.
[*]Arkady Burkavich is a comination of Arkady Bogdanov from the "Mars Trilogy" and a high school class mate of mine whose last name is Burke. Both are very philosophically active thinkers, which is a major element of Arkady Burkavich's character. I'm not sure whether Burkavich is an actual Russian name, but eventually I will find the closest sounding actual name.
[*]Samantha Ross is named after the girl I took to the Junior Prom. Its a very long story that I won't get into, but she was a bit of a wild girl and really my first major crush. the first names are the same and Ross is a simplified derivative of her last name; Rohaus. She of course, is the temptation to Stewart (who is...SLIGHTLY...based upon myself). Ross is also going to be the looker of the crew.
[*]I've recently decided that I'll need another major character, the Chief Science Officer, though I haven't done anything concenring his character make-up besides his name; Eugene Schmitt, which is a combo of Eugene Cernan and Jack Schmitt, the Apollo 17 astronauts to walk on the moon. Jack Schmitt being the first and so far only scientist to walk on the moon.

The only reason I did the names was because I like to give names of characters some personal meaning where ever possible. Gene Schmitt I'm not attached to at all and could very easily change.

Here's a further posting of everything else I've written so far:

Benjamin Stewart - Mission Commander
One of the first explorers of Mars, Stewart was the second person to set foot on the planet, being the pilot on Ares I. As such, he enjoyed the celebrity status of that crew comparable to that of the Original 7. After returning from that mission approximately twelve years ago, he became the head of the Martian Exploration Office, where he has served up until the events of the pilot. Originally a naval aviator. With Ares VIII he becomes the first man in history to travel to Mars twice. Though this is another thing that he will be remembered for in the history books, he does not seem affected by it at all.

Peter Young - Executive Officer
Originally one of the many candidates for the spot of Mission Commander for Ares VIII, though he was not specifically aware of it (though it was obvious he was in the running). He is an astronaut of seven yeas experience. Typical personality of a former fighter pilot - self confident though mellowed by several years of experience, still quite ambitious though. All around, a very likable person. A younger version of Benjamin Stewart - or in other words Benjamin Stewart is like Peter Young though more tempered by time and experience.
Younger version of Stewart. Slightly more brash. He is approximately the same age as Stewart was during Ares I. When Young reaches Stewart’s age as of Ares VIII, Mars will be substantially colonized. Young is the generation bridge between NASA Mars and colony Mars.

Dr. Samantha Ross - Chief Medical Officer
A brilliant biochemist/medical doctor. Very much like Dr. Crusher from Star Trek: The Next Generation. There is a playful flirtation between Ross and Stewart, but Stewart is deeply devoted to his wife.

Arkady Burkavick - Chief Engineer
The Russian Chief Engineer. Part of the new generation of Russians who have not lived under the yoke of communism and instead under the yoke of capitalism. Rather disdainful of all politics, though he holds his own off-the-wall but logical theories of them.

Janice Hancock - NASA Administrator
A woman who is constantly in a struggle to appease politicians and international partners while at the same time trying to further space exploration. She has a lot of integrity but she is constantly forced to compromise what she would like to do to make politicians and international partners happy. Similar in elements to Dr. Cary Weaver from ER, though not as malevolent as she is at times.

Focus of Show

The focus of the show is not about any outlandish and traditional science fiction stories (i.e. aliens from outer space or anything similarly outrageous). The primary focus of the show is upon three things:

1. The characters - How people (these twenty four specifically) interact in a hostile, isolated, and confined environment. Furthermore, the effects of space exploration upon the psyche of those who do it and the rest of the world in general. This is without a doubt the most important element of the show, and this must be interesting to viewers.

2. The science - In the most effective blend between laymen and accurate terms possible, describing major questions and objects of research to be discovered using humans on Mars. The science must take a secondary role to the character and human element. The most unrealistic element enters in at this point. Which is that all the major discoveries that could be made on Mars will be made, either one way or another on Ares VIII. The advancements of previous Mars missions cannot be ignored, but they should be exposed only to further the specific situation of Ares VIII. Otherwise, the general implication of the series will be that nothing much was accomplished on previous missions. The most important thing to be done with these is to exposition science in the human interaction.

3. The technology - Along the level of the science. There will be certain stories that revolve around technological elements of Mars exploration. But as with the science element, these must belong to human dialogue, interaction, and motives. The machines of the series should serve as tools for the furtherance of the human plot. Writers must be careful about deus ex machina. Certainly technology plays a central role to the future and Mars exploration in particular. Certainly advanced technology is involved in every facet of an astronaut’s stay on Mars. But a writer must take care as to not have the astronauts be rescued in the last five minutes of the show by some miraculous application of their equipment (Star Trek: Voyager comes to mind as the worst offender). Technology, above all, is an ends to a means, with the ultimate destination always being humans and the astronauts themselves.

Timeline

2007: International Space Station is completed.
2010: United States begins development for the Ares Project.
2014: Two shuttle missions are launched, which use their External Tanks as structures for constructing space stations a la Skylab. The potential of the technology is not fully explored.
2015: Benjamin Stewart is selected for the Astronaut Corps.
2017: The International Space Station is sold to private investors.
2018: The orbiter fleet (Columbia, Atlantis, Discovery, Endeavour) is retired.
2020: The International Space Station reenters the atmosphere and burns up. Benjamin Stewart and the rest of the Ares I crew is selected.
2021: Ares I is launched using a Mars Direct similar style mission with six crewmembers. The mission commander is James Calhoun. The pilot is Benjamin Stewart. They are the first and second people to set foot on the Martian surface, respectively.
2023: Ares I returns to Earth. While his crewmembers retire from NASA, Stewart enters NASA management, while retaining his active astronaut status. In short time, he becomes the Director of Mars Exploration, overseeing all manned exploration of the Red Planet.
2027: A research station is constructed on the moon, using duplicate hardware from the Ares program.
2023-2027: Ares II, III, IV are all launched and carried out, each with six person crews.
2029-2036: Ares V, VI, VII are carried out, each with twenty-four crewmembers. These missions utilize a Crew Transfer Vehicle whose sole purpose is to transport astronauts from Earth to Mars and vice versa.
2036: (Pilot) Four astronauts on Ares VII are lost in a massive dust storm and are never heard from again, and their remains are never found. If public and government opinion turn against NASA, the expansion of Mars exploration and settlement will be severely hindered. In order to prevent this, NASA assigns Stewart to be mission commander of Ares VIII. If this mission experiences any significant difficulties or any crewmembers are lost, Mars exploration will surely be set back decades. Ares VIII launches, and the series begins.
2039: Following the successful completion of Ares VIII, the Mars base is further expanded into sixty-people with a permanent crew. The Mars Society, in partnership with NASDA, establishes a civilian run base.
2040: The Space Force is created as a branch of the Armed Forces, and is placed under the Department of Transportation. The operations of the base are transferred to it. The Space Force attempts to impose a police force on the civilian run station, which resists.

Pilot Outline

�Opens with Stewart at home.
�Stewart and Hancock speak. Exposition of events of Ares VII and relationship between Hancock and Stewart.
�Press Conference/Congressional Hearing (probably Congressional hearing). Exposition of danger of cancellation.
�News Program. Exposition of NASA’s answer.
�Stewart comes home to pack and leave. Exposition of devotion to wife.
�Training base. Exposition of other main characters. Exposition of boredom and possible physical dangers (through sims). Crewmember cracks under pressure, action of him breaking down and being removed. Builds tension about future possibility.
�Stewart and main characters meet in Houston.
�Last days on Earth at Kennedy. Contrasting life of Earth and desolation of Mars.
�Launch day. Builds tension with foreshadowing of Apollo like launch. Anti-climax with an SSTO launch reminiscent of 2001: A Space Odyssey. Quick cut to:
�Journey out. Showcase of typical boredom associated with long duration space flight. Action sequences of major systems failure and the beginning of a relationship between two crewmembers and of a depressed crewmember (scaled up version of Astrotel transfer system – likely using STS External Tanks).
�Landing day. Building tension with exposition of how hard it is to land on Mars. Depicted with style as if it were momentous first landing. Accomplishment of each time is showcased. Last shot, extreme pan out of landing site and heroes on the landscape of Mars.

[ November 13, 2001: Message edited by: OnToMars ]


 
Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
Bah. Spontaneaous posting.

Anyway, thanks Balaam for the further suggestions. I'll post some episode summaries and any further work later.

Until then, any more comments are certainly welcome!
 


Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
Ok, here's a little more:

The national make-up of Ares VIII is as follows:

12 Americans
4 Russians
2 British (1 English, 1 Irish)
2 Japanese
1 Canadian
1 Chinese
1 German
1 Sri Lankan


Would anybody care to offer suggestions as to personalities, lives, histories, or other identity elements to some of these? Offer things from your life, perhaps?

I'm particularly interested in how people in other countries substanially different from the U.S. came to be the people they are. Bernd, how'd you chose engineering? Ever think about being an astronaut? Masao? I figured out Stewart's history, but Stewart's my age with my ambitions and from my part of the world. The hard part is figuring out the people completely different from you.
 


Posted by that english guy (Member # 727) on :
 
I've been hovering around this site and I'm loving the concept. It's definitely something that I'd watch, or at least give a try !

I'm English and I'm a psychology student ; you;d need a psychologist on a Mars mission and perhaps the character could also be the 'Morale' Officer.

If you need advice on an English character or on psychology then I'd be more than pleased to help you.

May I suggest the name : Jake Summerson ?

If you want help, you can contact me at [email protected] !

Paul,
 


Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
 
I think a German character would dream about being in space as much as an American. The difference could be that the character might see it a bit more like a theoretical possibility, until his participance is finally approved of. Literally a down to earth character. This is for once because Cape Canaveral is far away, but also because in Germany there are many skeptics who question the use of manned space exploration and, in general, all science projects that are potentially dangerous or useless (and much too expensive anyway).

The individual German character should not have such an attitude, but it might belong to his background. The character himself (or herself) may have a very high respect for orders and regulations (although this is often exaggerated in films) and may want to be the best, not only out of personal ambition, but also to justify that he was chosen for the mission.

As for an interesting background of the character, you may think of having him come from a small village where people know each other well and where an astronaut is something "exotic" the people there don't understand (but are proud of the character, though).
 


Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
Thanks for your suggestions, Bernd. This is what I wrote up last night, and I think he would fit in very well as being one of the few characters that don't have some sort of neuroses. In short, he could represent stability, demonstrating a more realistic profile of what kind of Mars astronauts would actually be sent. There is, I think, potential to play off this character with Benjamin Stewart and to a lesser extent, Peter Young, both who have made Mars their single unwavering focus in life. And if ya don't mind, Bernd, I'd like to use your name. Slim chance that this will ever make it to the screen in the first place, but would ya mind anyway?

Bernd Schneider
Physiology
� Sex: Male
� Age: 38
� Height: 5�10�
� Weight: 165
� Hair: Black
� Eyes: Blue
� Skin: Light.
� Posture: Straight, regular.
� Appearance: Neat, but occasionally slightly disheveled.
� Heredity: German, countryside.

Sociology
� Class: German working origin. Middle from accomplishment.
� Occupation: Systems engineer.
� Education: Undergrad in Mechanical Engineering, Master�s in Engineering Physics.
� Home Life: Wife and a pre-adolescent son.
� Religion: Atheist
� Race, nationality: Caucasian, German.
� Place in Community: Systems Engineer
� Political Affiliations: None.
� Amusements, hobbies: Logic puzzles, engineering. Somewhat Scotty-like. Simply enjoys engineering, both as a career and an amusement. Has an interest and is fairly knowledgeable in physics.

Psychology
� Sex life, moral standards: Faithful to his wife, a bit of a prude.
� Personal premise, ambition: None really. To be in space, but never considered it a great enough possibility to become overly ambitious about. To apply his skills to be a good engineer. He has a somewhat vague premise of furthering humanity, but he mainly does what he does because he enjoys it.
� Frustrations, personal disappointments: None of note. He is thankful that he has come as far as he did.
� Temperament: Cool, logical, rational. Not easily perturbed. Somewhat frightened about the possibility of a Mars death (i.e. from decompression or whatnot).
� Attitude toward life: To work hard and apply his skills where they are needed.
� Complexes, obsessions, inhibitions, superstitions, phobias: None of note. He is a very stable personality. Somebody to provide perspective against other less stable characters.
� Extrovert, introvert, ambivert: Introvert, but friendly.
� Abilities: An excellent engineer, possibly the most thorough and systematic of any of the crew. Has a photographic memory. Often catches things others miss.
� IQ: 150
� History: Comes from a small village in the German countryside. Never thought he would have the opportunity to go to another world. After receiving his education, he worked on a government research project from which he was nominated for a spot on Ares VIII. He is considered a hero among his village, something, which embarrasses him somewhat. He has a healthy respect for authority, though not the over characterization stereotype Germans are sometimes portrayed with.
� Mars: Went to Mars because the possibility was offered to him and because of the unique engineering involved.

Also, in case anybody's interested, are the full bios for two more of the main characters:

Peter Young
Physiology
� Sex: Male
� Age: 32
� Height: 6�1�
� Weight: 165 lbs.
� Hair: Dark brown
� Eyes: Hazel
� Skin: Tanned Caucasian
� Posture: Military
� Appearance: Faintly cowboyish.
� Heredity: Anglo-Saxon Texan

Sociology
� Class: Middle
� Occupation: Naval aviator, test pilot, and pilot astronaut
� Education: B.S. in Aerospace Engineering from Purdue University and a M.S. in Engineering Physics from CalTech. Fighter pilot and test pilot training. Somewhat knowledgeable of literature.
� Home Life: Single. Somewhat of a womanizer.
� Religion: Humanist
� Race, nationality: Caucasian American
� Place in Community: Second in command, in command in the absence of Stewart.
� Political Affiliations: Slightly leftist in philosophy, non-partisan
� Amusements, hobbies: Video games, card games, exercise, puzzles.

Psychology
� Sex life, moral standards: Moderately promiscuous, no qualms about multiple sexual partners, though by no means fixated on sex.
� Personal premise, ambition: To be a Chuck Yeager/Pete Conrad/Right Stuff type of person. To take the greatest challenge and master it.
� Frustrations, personal disappointments: His failure and inability at anything. Though these are generally very private to him, and he is still very easygoing.
� Temperament: Easygoing, optimistic, always ready for a challenge and confident.
� Attitude toward life: To take life a challenge at a time, to find a solution for anything that presents itself.
� Complexes, obsessions, inhibitions, superstitions, phobias: A very private fear of failure, a near-obsession to succeed, sometimes inhibited in his desire to do something because of his drive.
� Extrovert, introvert, ambivert: Extrovert, a very sociable person, out-going, and likable.
� Abilities: A master pilot of any moving vehicle, a sharp engineering mind, and an excellent leader
� IQ: 130
� History: A Navy brat, Young�s father was a submarine officer. Young himself entered Naval Aviation and quickly distinguished himself as one of the best pilots in the Navy. Became a test pilot and gradually became more involved with the engineering side. Aspired to be a Mars astronaut because it is the best and hardest assignment to get.
� Mars: Went to Mars to take the greatest challenge possible and master it.

Dr. Samantha Ross
Physiology
� Sex: Female
� Age: 32
� Height: 5�8�
� Weight: 145 lbs.
� Hair: Black
� Eyes: Green
� Skin: Fair, excellent complexion.
� Posture: Straight and relaxed.
� Appearance: Like a model, graceful and elegant.
� Heredity: WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant)

Sociology
� Class: Upper
� Occupation: Medical doctor, biochemist.
� Education: Pre-med, masters in biochemistry, Medical Doctor
� Home Life: Singe, unattached.
� Religion: Atheist.
� Race, nationality: American, Anglo-Saxon.
� Place in Community: Doctor, lead scientist.
� Political Affiliations: None.
� Amusements, hobbies: Painting, poetry, sketching, drawing, reading,

Psychology
� Sex life, moral standards: No inhibitions about sex, no problems using sex or her attraction to obtain a measure of control over men.
� Personal premise, ambition: Maya�s premise and ambition. (Mars Trilogy)
� Frustrations, personal disappointments: Her inability to be with Stewart, which is a genuine attraction.
� Temperament: Warm, caring, personable.
� Attitude toward life: To experience what there is to experience, to make things work for her.
� Complexes, obsessions, inhibitions, superstitions, phobias: Though she is usually comfortable with manipulating men, her persuasion is not quite as strong as Stewart's will. Nor does she wish to use her siren methods on him, as she has a genuine attraction to him.
� Extrovert, introvert, ambivert: Extrovert.
� Abilities: To convince people that she is right about just about anything. A brilliant scientific mind. Has a knack for hitting the right answer early on in trial and error scientific experiments.
� IQ: 150
� History: Entered medical school at the age of 20. After completing her doctorate, she worked on several Mars and non-Mars related proejcts with NASA before applying as for the Astronaut Corps.
� Mars: Went to Mars because its there. Went for the raw perception and sensation.
 


Posted by Bernd (Member # 6) on :
 
Well, could you either change the first name or the last name of the character?
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
Make him a "Rolf." There's far too few Rolfs in the world, & for my money, you can never get enough of that sort of thing. Kinda like pictures of Reagan's polyps.
 
Posted by that english guy (Member # 727) on :
 
Mmmm, psychologist character ?

He travelled in his childhood because his father worked with an oil company. He's used to other cultures but is still quintessentially British, very patriotic but realises that everyone's going to need to work together to get to Mars. He was brought up believing that mankind would one day get there and virtually idolised Stewart.

Hope u can use this !
 


Posted by OnToMars (Member # 621) on :
 
No problem, Bernd.

I think I'll keep Bernd if that's okay and find the last name somewhere. I can prolly pull something off my family tree.

For the Brit, I like the oil platform dad idea and the idolization of Stewart is something I hadn't thought of. I don't know if I'll incorporate those into the English character, but I'll most likely use them as elements in some of the characters. In the end, I want to craft the English and Irish to have some sort of friendly opposition to. I'm not quite sure yet, but that's the direction I want to go in.
 


Posted by The_Tom (Member # 38) on :
 
A cast of 24, eh?

And Irish people aren't British.
 


Posted by Professor Chaos (Member # 621) on :
 
*BUMP*

Been awhile. I've kept working on this. The Mars Society's annual conference is coming up, and I've submitted an abstract to present this to whoever will listen. Who knows, but James Cameron is a big fan of the Mars stuff. With any luck, he'll be there and...well...whatever.

Has anybody ever pitched something in showbusiness before? Gotten in front of producers and laid out your idea?

(and Tom, I meant friendly rivalry between the Irish character and English character [Smile] )

This is a pitch, a written proposal of a series concept.

Ares

Mars � The next frontier of humanity. A desolate landscape with an atmosphere a thousand times thinner than Earth�s, temperatures reaching hundreds of degrees below freezing, and poisonous air. A man exposed to this environment without the protection of a space suit would die an instant, horrible death. But amidst this danger lay a landscape of incredible diversity and wonder. Mountains, canyons and every manner of geological feature is ten times larger than its Earth counterpart and all manner of scientific mysteries to be answered. This is the setting for man�s next home in space, the New World of the 21st Century.

But only if Benjamin Stewart and the crew of Ares VIII can succeed. During Ares VII, four astronauts were lost in a dust storm and never heard from again. NASA has barely managed to avoid the wrath of Congress and the public and kept the program from a delay -- or worse, a cancellation. This, however, leaves no margin for error in the next mission, Ares VIII. If any crewmembers on Ares VIII were to lose their lives, or there was any obstacle the mission couldn�t overcome, the program would surely be cancelled entirely. Failure, quite literally, is not an option.

Benjamin Stewart and the twenty-three other crewmembers of Ares VIII have their work cut out for them. Scientists have been studying Mars with robotic probes for over sixty years by the time of Ares VIII, and humans have been walking its surface for over fifteen. And yet, the combined knowledge only scratches the surface of the true secrets of the Red Planet. A host of scientific questions lay before the crew of Ares VIII, all vital to the understanding of Mars and the question of colonization and terraforming. Are there large aquifers under the surface? Does life exist, or has it ever anywhere on or under the surface? Is Mars geologically dead, or is there still activity somewhere in its volcanoes or at its core? How exactly can humanity raise pressure and temperature and add water and oxygen to the environment, making it habitable for humans? These questions and hundreds more lay before Ares VIII as possible focuses for their efforts.

The Characters

BENJAMIN STEWART commands this critical mission. He is a man who knows Mars better than anybody else alive. Stewart was the second man to walk on Mars, during the first manned mission to the Red Planet. As a result, he enjoyed a celebrity status comparable to that of the Original 7 Mercury astronauts in the early 1960s. After returning from the first manned mission to Mars, Ares I, Stewart became the director of the Mars Exploration Office and oversaw all exploration of the Red Planet up to the present. Through all this, he has done everything in his power to make sure the exploration of our planetary neighbor continues. Now, the only way Congress will accept the program to continue without delay is if Stewart commands the mission himself. Though Stewart is past his prime, he has committed his entire life to exploring Mars and can�t help but do whatever is needed of him to further Mars exploration. Went to Mars because he is Mars.

PETER YOUNG is the second in command of Ares VIII, the executive officer and the only other crewmember whose dedicated function is command. He is an engineer with a sharp mind and a skilled pilot, but possesses the typical personality of a former fighter pilot � self-confident though mellowed by several years of experience. He possesses lots of raw talent and is similar in some respects to Stewart, though a less experienced, younger version. He is a very likable person with charisma, who chews gum and wears a cowboy hat and is somewhat of a womanizer. He has a very private fear of failure and a harsh frustration with himself anytime he fails or does something unsatisfactorily. Young�s personal premise is to find the biggest challenges out there and to overcome them. Young is the same age during Ares VIII that Stewart was during Ares I and will be Stewart�s Ares VIII age when Mars begins to become substantially colonized. Went to Mars for the greatest piloting and engineering challenge.

SAMANTHA ROSS is the chief science officer and the resident medical doctor of Ares VIII. She is no more than thirty-three years old and possesses the body and face of a model or an angel. She is a brilliant biochemist and medical doctor. She is a hedonist who enjoys raw sensation and perception. Stewart and Ross are attracted to each other, but Stewart is deeply devoted to his wife and she resists because she knows he would reject. She has no other moral qualms about becoming involved with him. Additionally, she won�t do anything during the mission because she is aware of the psychological dangers of fraternization during the mission. Anything between them was, by mutual unspoken agreement, automatically postponed until after they return to Earth. She sometimes uses her femininity to gain a certain measure of control over men. She is similar to Maya from the �Mars Trilogy�, though not malevolent or bipolar. Went to Mars because it�s there.

ARKADY BURKAVICH is the insightful chief engineer. Burkavich follows logic in everything he does, from his duties as an engineer to his own anarchistic philosophies on government. Burkavich grew up, not under the yoke of Soviet communism, but rather under the yoke of Russian democracy. This has given him a disdain of politics and governments, something that he voices quite freely whenever he is given the chance. Of course, he has his own ideas on how governments should be run, which follow his previously mentioned logical philosophy. But despite this, he has a certain knack for looking at any engineering problem and instantly seeing the solution. Went to Mars to build something new.

JANICE HANCOCK is in a constant struggle with the powers that be in running NASA. She has to constantly contend with political, bureaucratic, and media forces to further space exploration. Her constant battles have made her pessimistic regarding matters and human behavior and has become extremely pragmatic in her job. Administration is quickly wearing her thin, and she quietly thinks about resigning. Before Ares VII, she was almost certain that she would do it, but now that Ares VIII has become so critical and Stewart is commanding, she feels obligated to stay on until at least the end of the mission.

Pilot

Benjamin Stewart, Director of the Mars Exploration Office, is called down to Johnson Space Center in the middle of the night. A hundred million miles away, Mars Base Camp has lost contact with four astronauts on an Extravehicular Activity when a dust storm appears out of nowhere and cuts them off from all contact. Stewart, Hancock, the Flight Controller, and the International Partner Representative brief reporters on the situation.

As the weeks drag on, contact is never reestablished, they are never located, and there is no other conclusion to reach other than that they must have perished in the storm. The ramifications to NASA are daunting, Hancock must fend off a Congressman who wants the program canceled and Stewart fails to find support from a president who doesn�t lift a finger without a public opinion poll. Congress wants reassurances that NASA knows what it�s doing, otherwise the program will be delayed two and a half years. So they send Stewart.

Stewart must break the news to his wife, whom he is deeply devoted to. It is an emotional struggle; they are entering their golden years together, and he doesn�t want to leave her, but he needs to complete this one last mission, otherwise, his life will have been a waste.

Meanwhile, in the Antarctic, the crewmember candidates struggle to be selected for the mission while living in an isolated and dangerous environment. They run through exercises over and over again and are given every manner of mechanical failures to test their abilities, including the Mantra Run, the difficult final approach and landing sequence. One candidate cracks under the stress, revealing a pathology that wasn�t caught during the initial selection process. Unfortunately, these cracks are impossible to seal with a hundred percent certainty. The crewmember is removed from the simulation sight, but no such remedy will be available on Mars. The crew is selected, and it includes Peter Young, Samantha Ross, and Arkady Burkavich.

They fly to Kennedy Space Center, to complete the final preparations for launch. There, they meet their commander for the first time, and everybody prepares to leave everything they know, behind. Finally, the day arrives, and they are launched into space. The crew transfers into the spacecraft that will take them to Mars. Most of the six-month voyage is entirely unremarkable. But there are events that punctuate the boredom. A wife on Earth leaves her husband, starting him on a path of depression that will blossom in a future episode. Two other crewmembers experience a blossoming romance and our characters experience for the first time, the feeling of total isolation from all other humanity. Finally, the ship nears Mars, and the crew begins the difficult task of the Mantra Run. They successfully enter Mars atmosphere and land on the surface.

Sample Episode Stories

1. Young and a field team discover what could be fossilized life. Meanwhile, back on Earth, Hancock is trying to keep an aerospace firm from backing out of its deal to build and launch a series of satellites designed to monitor life on Earth. The suspected fossils are brought back to Mars Base Camp for more in depth analysis. The preliminary tests are still inconclusive, but there is a battery of tests to be done. The Powers That Be behind NASA refuse to fund the agency the money it needs to build and launch the satellites. Hancock desperately tries to convince those that be that they are important in monitoring Earth�s health. Simultaneously, news leaks to the public about the discovery of life, which has profound effects. NASA tried to keep it secret until they were sure, but now Hancock must conduct damage control. She has to deflect contamination threats and try to explain in rational terms what the discovery means. Finally, the crew is able to determine that it isn�t life, but it does offer a specific hope for the future discovery of life at some later point in the show to excavate a spot when they have the right equipment.

2. Two minor characters with a previous attraction find themselves all alone � something that almost never happens on a Mars mission. They succumb to their passions and have sex. The male leaks the secret almost immediately, and soon the entire crew knows. Jealousies emerge; other people begin to say �why not?� and others refuse these advances. Ross conducts a medical examination to the humiliation of both involved, while Stewart is faced with the difficult prospect of disciplining the two. In the end all he can do is order them not to do it again, and issue similar orders to the rest of the crew. The event causes Stewart and Ross to examine their own relationship with each other, and they resist only by their own will power. We are left with the distinct impression that this is the only thing that prevents it from happening.

3. Stewart and a team return to the Base Camp from a field excursion. Soon after, Stewart falls ill; first a fever, then progressively worse symptoms until he is unconscious. Young takes command as Ross tries to find the cause and a cure. Her limited equipment hampers her and soon other members of the field excursion fall ill. Simultaneously, Stewart�s condition worsens and he is in danger of dying. While other members of the excursion follow the same path, crewmembers who weren�t even part of the expedition begin to suffer the same effects. It becomes a race against time as everybody except Young and Ross become unconscious. Using primarily telemedicine, and an impromptu examining technique with telemedicine, the cause is discovered as a rare type of illness that one of the crew had caught from a technician days before they left Earth and which had been incubating since then.

4. The time comes to erect a new habitat, an inflatable dome. Arkady, in charge of the operation, and his team have to overcome every possible construction obstacle in order to get the structure up. On Earth, Hancock is clashing with dangers of cutbacks threatening the lunar program. The current team was forced to come home early because of a malfunction of equipment. The equipment is similar to that used on Mars, so the issue of safety is again raised. Hancock must battle opposing forces to continue support of the program.

5. A crewmember whose blossoming depression began on the journey out reaches a critical stage. He becomes inconsolable and starts missing his duty shifts and not completing his assignments. His descent culminates in a low in which he will not move from his personal space. Stewart and the crew quickly trace the source to his wife leaving him on the journey out. Stewart wasn�t notified when it happened and he becomes very upset over this, letting Mission Control have it. They respond that it has been standard practice since Ares V to leave the privacy of crewmembers� affairs to themselves, something that never reached Stewart. Stewart wants the policy changed, and Hancock is placed in the unenviable position of having to support him, though the majority of the Astronaut Corps is opposed to it. Other managers remain on the fence and the media debates in favor of everybody knowing of the health status of the crew. This, everybody in NASA rejects, but through the different POV, the subject of privacy is debated. A certain lack of privacy is required for the good of the mission, which is Stewart�s argument, while most of the scientists and engineers disagree on principle. The media�s viewpoint puts both of these into perspective. Allusions are made to current freedom to privacy debates.

6. One of the Sabatier reactors (machines which produce water, air, and fuel for the crew) breaks down, forcing the crew to cut back uncomfortably on their water usage. Meanwhile, the crew is stepping up their efforts to find a frozen aquifer under the surface, within drilling range. This is made all the more urgent by more political assaults on the efforts to expand the base. Scientists and engineers maintain that a large liquid water source must be found and tapped before a permanent large base can be expanded. The appearance of the eventual future president is presented, where he supports the science that Ares is doing and generally supporting the program. Hancock remarks that he probably won�t get elected if he keeps spouting off support for NASA.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
A "real" space show would be lots of fun, and good on you for your efforts. However, the following list contains everyone who can get a television show started:

1.)People with years of experience writing and producing television (even terrible television).
2.) Famous film directors who have people with years of experience writing and producing television in tow.
 
Posted by Professor Chaos (Member # 621) on :
 
Wow, praise from Sizer.

Praise devoid of sarcasm or irony.

I understand that this is a longer shot than winning the lottery, but...I don't know...I have hope. If it happens, it happens. If not, then my life will remain ambigious for awhile longer. But it never hurts to be prepared.
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
My reputation preceeds me in a manner I am not entirely sure I am comfortable with. At any rate, I'm not so sure it's a matter of it being a long shot, but rather no shot at all. That just isn't how television works. If you're serious about it, I suggest turning it into a screenplay, and shopping it around as a movie. Mars movies were popular for awhile, may be again someday, and you actually have a chance of breaking in as a new writer.
 
Posted by Thoughtchopper (Member # 480) on :
 
Get in contact with as many people as you can in the buisness, and have a full script ready as well as a shorter treatment, and an even shorter summary that they can glance at, preferably no longer than a short paragraph.

Send it to everyone. Comic book companies, Sci-fi mags, TV producers...you name it.

If you really want to get in, it's all about who you know. They may hate your concept, but if it looks professional and you can talk fast, they may remember you for something else...

There's about a million fools out there trying to bust in somewhere...I should know. I'm one of them. But if you want it, go for it, and don't take any guff off those swine.

Even if somebody reads your stuff and tells you "Fucking sucks, this does! Get the hell out of my office!" just remember this: At least you're not working at Mcdonald's.
 
Posted by Ultra Magnus Pym (Member # 239) on :
 
"Fucking sucks, this does!"

Yodas are popular choices for Spec Readers, I dig?
 
Posted by Thoughtchopper (Member # 480) on :
 
In certain circles, yes.
 


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