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Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Ok I'm sorta back, artwise, for the time being so to get myself back into the groove here's a "what if" character design for all you batman fans out there.

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I know it's not Star Trek but to be honest I'm finding logos and space ships to be a tad tedious of late.

[ January 24, 2009, 03:23 PM: Message edited by: Fabrux ]
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
I'm down with that. Frankly, I was hoping for this sort of deal than for Max to end up as the next Robiin, as her civvies would suggest.

Mark
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Is this based on Terry's high-school pal/confidant?

It's kinda cool but I'd go with a gold metallic bat/cape interior to make it both distinctive from Terry's costume and as homage to the Barbra Gordon batgirl.
....and I'd reduce the size of the character's forehead: the side-view in particular looks strange as is.

I dig the blue elements running down the costume's front.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
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I'm down with that. Frankly, I was hoping for this sort of deal than for Max to end up as the next Robin, as her civvies would suggest.
I never thought that a new Robin character would sit well with the future setting. I did fiddle with a possible design but it ended up looking more like a 'red' version of Nightwing...with pink hair.

However I did put a bit of a sideways reference to Frank Miller's female Robin with the Green lenses, so the spirit of Robin is there at least. [Wink]

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Is this based on Terry's high-school pal/confidant?

It's kinda cool but I'd go with a gold metallic bat/cape interior to make it both distinctive from Terry's costume and as homage to the Barbra Gordon batgirl.
....and I'd reduce the size of the character's forehead: the side-view in particular looks strange as is.

I dig the blue elements running down the costume's front.

Yeah, Max.

Ok, I just tried changing the colour to gold and I have to say it's a big no no. It clashes horribly with the rest of the costume.
Personally I think having those Nightwing-esq blue elements, an oldstyle cowl and a non-retractable cape is enough to distinguish this costume from Terry's.

As for the forehead that's a part of Max's design, so I can't get around it.
Actually alot of the teenage girl designs on that show had preportionatly large heads, so it's consistant with the general style.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
You try making the bat blue then?
I like where you're going but it's still Batman's costume on a girl: it could be more distinctive.
Try making the red costume element bright bllue or violet and the lenses red.
I think that would look pretty cool.
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
Whoa... I bow before your greatness, Reverend [Smile]

You even slightly redesigned bat-logo...
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I'm not really sure how you could make it more, er, "femenine" without it looking silly. Perhaps boots, but I dunno if they'd work. Maybe a little bit of the blue highlighting (which looks nice) in other places?

You really have captured the BB style though. This would fit right in. The only real difference is that Max hasn't got the painfully skinny ankles that she and every other character had in BB (and The New Batman Adventures, too). Still, at least the incredibley tiny waist is there...
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
Well, she has those skinny ankles on her character sheet as well... [Smile]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
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You try making the bat blue then?
If you mean the symbol, yeah, I did. It made the costume a little too dark, I think the red is really needed for a the sake of contrast.

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I like where you're going but it's still Batman's costume on a girl: it could be more distinctive.
Well technically the beyond suit is just a black version of the batwoman outfit (chronologically), so what goes around comes around. [Wink]

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Try making the red costume element bright bllue or violet and the lenses red.
I think that would look pretty cool.

Again, tried it, looked bad. It looked much too Nightwing-ish and changing the colour of the lenses destroyes the Frank Miller Robin reference.

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You even slightly redesigned bat-logo...

After I decided on the shoulder wrapping cape and the blue trim I kind of had too.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
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I'm not really sure how you could make it more, er, "femenine" without it looking silly. Perhaps boots, but I dunno if they'd work. Maybe a little bit of the blue highlighting (which looks nice) in other places?
Kung-fun in high heels isn't exactly practical (just read Batgirl: Year One [Wink] ) nor is it really Max's stlye.
I had a go at changing the highlights from grey to the blue/purple shade on the Justice League Batman design and I'm not sure if I like it...reminds me too much of the 60's tv series batgirl...*shudder*

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Well, she has those skinny ankles on her character sheet as well...
Maybe that's because I cheated and traced over the character sheet for this costume design. [Big Grin]

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
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Originally posted by PsyLiam:
I'm not really sure how you could make it more, er, "femenine" without it looking silly.

Put nipples on the costume. Nothing silly about nipples. Unless they're George Clooney's... *shudder*

I've never seen Batman Beyond, so forgive my ignorance, but who are Max and Terry?
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
No nipples...at least not on any version I'll be releasing [Wink]

This should give you a good rundown on the show and characteres.
If you have any kind of interest in Batman you just HAVE to watch the Batman Beyond movie (Return of the Joker).
If for nothing else than to see what happens to poor Robin (Drake).
Jason Todd of the comics got off easy by comparison.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Except that he died. Your definition of "got off easy" is a bit odd.

And how comes I never noticed Max's pert little arse before?
 
Posted by Sol System (Member # 30) on :
 
Jesus Christ.
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Too bad I don't even think Timm and company would go this direction for the JLU season 3 finale.
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
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Originally posted by Reverend:
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Well, she has those skinny ankles on her character sheet as well...
Maybe that's because I cheated and traced over the character sheet for this costume design. [Big Grin]

I know, I wrote about the ankles precisely because I found this sheet myself [Cool]
 
Posted by Nim the Plentiful (Member # 205) on :
 
I think the first BatGirl-picture looks too much like Halle Berry's new "CatWoman". I wouldn't make her black in this case.
I love Berry's catwoman, tho. *crack*
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Jason Todd got blown up by the Joker. Compared to a life of becoming an overweight, depressed man who hated his crimefighting life after being tortured and brainwashed by the same...

Mark
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
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Except that he died. Your definition of "got off easy" is a bit odd.
I admit to have never actually read that comic, but from what I gather Todd's ordeal while cruel and tragic was relatively brief.

I shan't elaborate further since I don't want to spoil it for Aban.

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And how comes I never noticed Max's pert little arse before?
Well the hair dose distract a little. [Wink]

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Jesus Christ.
I warned ya, that's no ordinary rabbit! It's the most foul, cruel and horrid beast you ever laid eyes on....with nasty big pointy teeth!!!

*ahem*

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Too bad I don't even think Timm and company would go this direction for the JLU season 3 finale.
We can always hope for a second DTV. [Wink]

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I think the first BatGirl-picture looks too much like Halle Berry's new "CatWoman". I wouldn't make her black in this case.
I love Berry's catwoman, tho. *crack*

I really don't see the similariry.
Beyond of course the fact that they're both Black females in black costumes.

Given that Max's ethinicity is already established as is the fact that most 'bat-family' costumes promenently feature the colour black I'm not sure what you're suggesting I do.

Also from what I gather Halle Berry's catwoman costume is much more revealing than this one...and it's leather and has no cape and no rocket boots.

I just plain don't get it.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Just so I'm straight before I go out and try to find this movie, The original Robin, Dick Greyson, grew up and became Nightwing, right? Then Jason Todd comes along and is Robin for awhile, only to get killed by the Joker in A Death in the Family. Then Drake becomes Robin, and that's the one we see in the newer episodes of Batman: The Animated series, right?
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Correct, they skipped Todd altogether in the animated series.

The makers of that show have a good history of "trimming the fat off" the comic book continuity, especially where it comes to characters.

If you have access to Kazza-lite or something similar I recommend that you also get a hold of the following episodes.

The New Adventures of Batman-"Sins of the Father" (first Timm Drake appearance)
The New Adventures of Batman-"Old Wounds" (story of why Greyson quit)
The New Adventures of Batman-"Over the Edge" (coz it rocks)

Batman Beyond-"Rebirth I&II" (coz it's the pilot and it has Sulu in it)
Batman Beyond-"Meltdown" (Because Freeze is just cool [Wink] and he's voiced by Kang from Trek)
Batman Beyond-"Disappearing Inque" (purely for the very cool bit at the end...I won't spoil the details, but the Dark Knight returns!)
Batman Beyond-"Out Of The Past" (Talia and David Warner, very creepy)
Batman Beyond-"The Call" (first appearance of the Justice League, before they had their own show)

Obviously there's loads more good ones, but these are the must see episodes.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Yet strangely, the origin for Tim Drake in the animated series is almost exactly Jason Todd's and on Teen Tiatns, Robin (in the Tim Drake costume) seems to (somehow) be Dick Grayson (they do a future story where he becomes Nightwing from the Animated Series) so nothing really makes sense there.

In the comics, Tim is the best detective and (probably) the best fighter among the Robins- he's the smartest for certain.
 
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
and on Teen Tiatns, Robin (in the Tim Drake costume) seems to (somehow) be Dick Grayson (they do a future story where he becomes Nightwing from the Animated Series) so nothing really makes sense there.

Spoilers for Teen Titans ahead!

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I think the writers of the Teen Titans animated series enjoy teasing viewers with Robin's true identity.

Dick Grayson appears most likely, as he became Nightwing in a possible future seen in "How Long is Forever?" Add to that the fact that the real name of Larry the Titan (from "Fractured") was "Dick Grayson" spelled backwards, and Larry had identical DNA to Robin.

Although... in "X," Beast Boy displays a huge flow chart to explain his crazy theory as to who the new Red X is. Jason Todd is clearly labelled on this chart.

[Eek!] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
Great, now we are discussing differences between comics and animated series... [Smile]

What bothers me in Teen Titans is the fact that they seem to have only their secret indentities... For example, Robin walks in costume all the time...
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Yeah, he even relaxes and plays video games in his cape and mask: that's just odd.
 
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
Whenever I read a thread like this, I am struck with this unnerving dread that not watching any cartoons or reading any comics has left me with this gaping unbridgeable canyon in my otherwise happily uneventful childhood. Then I click it away.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Dont sweat it: all the cartoons from your childhood probably sucked by today's standards anyway.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
I'm not hugely knowledgable on the comics so I only know Todd through online character bios and (I think) some references in Miller's "Dark Knight" books.

As for the Teen Titans show, I wouldn't worry too much since it's obviously more kiddie oriented and not connected to the other DCAU shows.

Also I only know the Comic version of Drake through the "No Man's Land" series. Which had a very cool new Batgirl BTW. [Wink]
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Yeah, many consider Teen Titans to be noncanon to the rest of the DCAU (except for The Batman (the new animated series)) just as many consider TAS to be noncanon to the rest of Star Trek.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Here's something I'd like to tak your opinions on.
I've never been sure about the 'look' of the eyes (pardon the pun) on this design so I've sketched up a set of alternatives, two that retain the "Robin lenses" and two that do away with them.
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Thoughts? Comments?
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
A.
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
B or C, with a tendancy towards B. The WB series never had a problem with showing just, literally, the whites of their eyes. The Robin-green thing will also fly, but the origianl Robins also had white eyes, so...

Mark
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Anything but "C"
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Not so sure about "A", "B" is traditional and goes with Terry, "C" just looks too odd, and "D" is too Catwoman-like. I'd go with traditional "B".
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
I've seen very very little of the show, so I may be out of my league here, but what about B with the eyes colored green?
 
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
 
From a realism standpoint, visible eyes might not be a good idea because people recognise eyes.
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Maybe, but after all that time, you'd think people would put together Clark Kent and Superman as the same person. (Not that the voice is already a dead give-away... which applies to Batman as well)
 
Posted by jesus X (Member # 1201) on :
 
What? Clark Kent is Superman? I'd never have guessed. The glasses change his face so radically... [Smile]
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Well, I meant the fictional characters in the DCU who couldn't figure out Superman and Clark Kent are the same guy or with any other character with a secret identity.
 
Posted by Topher (Member # 71) on :
 
About the Batman thing, I seem to remember in the Animated Adventures that Bruce would make his voice more gruff and mean as Batman.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well technically it's Batman who makes his voice higher and less gruff when he's acting as Bruce. [Wink]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
In regards to the eye's, despite an overwhelming lead for option 'B' in the votes I've gathered from 4 boards, I'm going to defy democracy and stick with what I've got, with the option of switching to 'A' when the visor is turned off (sort of a HUD).

From a character standpoint Max isn't the most obviously capable in the fisticuffs department so I'm speculating that her role is more stealth, info gathering and spying. Presumably watching Terry's back and coordinating with Bruce back at the cave. Sort of an Oracle type role, but with her own costume and not stuck in a wheelchair.


As for the other costume possibilities...I just couldn't resist the design challenge. [Wink]

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Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
Hmm... I think that this HawkGirl-ish mask should be changed. It just... doesn't suit Robin.

Also, change the shape of the wings. Make it less bat-like. Robin should have it's own style.

But other than that, I like it. [Smile]
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
The Nightwing costume is very ninja like.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Ok, had a few spare minutes so I threw these two new "what if" character designs together.
The first is "What if Dick Grayson is still around?"

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and the second is "What if he join the GL corp"

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
According to the BB movie, he still is. Dunno if he's active, though. But would ponytails still be in fashion twenty years on?

Mark
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Have ponytails ever really been in style for 60 year old, gray-haired men?
 
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
I say it's a mullet. Fashion issue: resolved.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Do you really think that a bloke who's spent most of his life running around rooftops in green shorts and later black tights is particularly concerned about the whims of fashion?

Aside from that I was afraid that people wouldn't recognise him without the ponytail.
 
Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Doubt he would join the GL corp. Besides in the BB time period, there's already an established GL member in the JLU (and it's not Stewart nor Rayner). BTW, what if Rayner and McGinness met? You'd have Will Friedle doing both in nearly the same tone and pitch.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
Wouldn't it be funny if the Green Lantern were color blind?

I so don't know what I'm talking about.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
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Doubt he would join the GL corp. Besides in the BB time period, there's already an established GL member in the JLU (and it's not Stewart nor Rayner). BTW, what if Rayner and McGinness met? You'd have Will Friedle doing both in nearly the same tone and pitch.
I never said he had to be stationed on Earth.

UPDATE

Apparantly the hair isn't popular so I've done these alternatives.

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Shorter hair in the GLC does make some sense, given that it's essencially a military organization.

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And just for fun, here's Dick in his street threads.

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Nice. I wonder if Grayson would have a Beyond-esque powered suit, which almost seems the norm in that era.. Insanely apparent upper body strength aside, I think he'd find rocket boots useful.

Mark <---Where's my super suit, woman?!
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I wish I were in the Green Lantern Corps. That would be cool. I could ring myself a posse of hot, glowing green chicks. I wonder if it's against the rules, though, to make out with your own ring creations as a Green Lantern. Maybe it's just taboo.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
I think it makes you go blind.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Yah... and I bet some uptight Guardian in the Oan IT department keeps track of every little thing you create with your Ring too.

"Oh look... Earth's Green Lantern Ringed himself another woman... that's against Corps policy..."

Stupid Oans.
 
Posted by Grokca (Member # 722) on :
 
quote:
I could ring myself a posse of hot, glowing green chicks.
Kirk would probably swoop in and screw them all and then they wouldn't want anything to do with you.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Leaving the discussion on power ring copulation to one side, here's my latest attempt at Max as Robin.
This one is a little less Shayera Hol more Carrie Kelley.

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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
Yah... and I bet some uptight Guardian in the Oan IT department keeps track of every little thing you create with your Ring too.

"Oh look... Earth's Green Lantern Ringed himself another woman... that's against Corps policy..."

Stupid Oans.

Kyle rayner's mom just got horribly murdered by Major Force (the same government creep that Killed Kyle's girlfriend back when he first got the ring) nad he's gone completely off the chain.
Major Force and everyone he works for is gonna die and it all leads up (somehow) to Hal Jordan returning as Green Lantern next year.

Dont know anything about Ganthet but all the other Guardians are dust (thanks to Jordan).

Only GL's left (currently) are Kyle nad Alan Scott (who's powers work a bit diffrently and he needs no ring).
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Can't say I ever kept track of the comics I'm afraid.
Ok, I've decided to ditch the mexican wrestling hood in favour of the good old ponytail. I've also tweaked a few things, made the spurs more visible and redone the Nightwing beyond logo, the old one looked a little too crude.

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Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Me like. The belt looks sweet.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Cheers Aban!

For those wondering why I've seemingly ditched Trek for Comic Books, wonder no longer.
I've recently taken the position of head colourist on this online comic.
Hate to break it to you but Trek Art can get REALLY boring at times! Also for some reason Comic book based work gets taken more seriously in a professional portfolio.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Ok, since my Trek related work is still a little thin these days I might as well throw in some more comic related pieces.
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and just for fun.
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Posted by Dat (Member # 302) on :
 
Me like Superwoman #2. Me thinks it could be a grown up Kara.
 
Posted by Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge (Member # 144) on :
 
Very nice work Rev... I do wonder why you haven't started to draw the Ladies of Trek comic series...

FYI: the Ladies of Trek idea was from an Entertainment Weekly when ST:TNG ended and they had a photoshoot of all the women of Star Trek featured.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
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Me like Superwoman #2. Me thinks it could be a grown up Kara.
Technically they're both grown up Karas. One's just 40 or so years older than the other.

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Very nice work Rev... I do wonder why you haven't started to draw the Ladies of Trek comic series...
Do you have any idea how labour intensive an online comic is?
That aside my interest in Trek is starting to dwindle.

More Kara being a badass...

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Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
Who's the ghostly figure on the right of the sepia picture?

Mark
 
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
You know, I've seen Reverend post that pic both here and at Toon Zone and didn't notice that shadow at all. Looks like Raven to me, what with the gem on the forehead and the hairdo.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Got it in one!
It was actually just a quick and dirty silhouette trace of this image. Which is why the "shadow" has no legs.
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I had the weird idea that it'd be cool if Raven didn't show up on film properly.
 
Posted by Harry (Member # 265) on :
 
So, are these drawn from scratch?
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
The scary flying one was, the others were traced from existing model sheets.
Mostly just so I could get the basic proportions correct.
I used Max for Robin & Batgirl Beyond, Big Barda's body for Superwoman Beyond, Bruce in the Batman Beyond suit for Nightwing Beyond and Supergirl for...ugh...Supergirl.
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
OK, this is what I don't like:
older Kara: the "S" symbol is completely uncrecognizable to me. I can't see letter S there. Is it intentional?
And, I don't like her tunic. It looks very... old-fashioned to me.

younger Kara: I don't mean any disrespect, but... her symbol being semi-transparent just screams "fan service!"...
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well you're in luck because they were both intentional!
The future "s" (I can't see it either) was established by Kal-El's appearance on Batman Beyond. See here.
As for the cutout. Belive it or not it didn't look right without the clevage! I originall tried backing it with gold, yellow, red, dark blue, none of them look quite right. I only hit on the clevage trick by accident and it seamed to work.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I have been meaning to read DKA for roughly 7 billion years now. I will have a go this lunchtime, and praise your mad skillz.

And don't you love the idea of a reclusive sort-of-goth type girl why buries her face in shadow but walks around with completely bare legs? God bless comics.
 
Posted by Kazeite (Member # 970) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reverend:
Well you're in luck because they were both intentional!

Well, ok then. But I still think it's a fan service [Big Grin]
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
All (superhero) comics are fan-service.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
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I have been meaning to read DKA for roughly 7 billion years now. I will have a go this lunchtime, and praise your mad skillz.
Don't praise too much. I'm only the colourist and have only been involved since issue-11 onwards. Some other bloke called James does all the actual art work. Have fun reading though, but don't expect me to explain all the psycological mumbo jumbo, I have nothing to do with the writing!

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And don't you love the idea of a reclusive sort-of-goth type girl why buries her face in shadow but walks around with completely bare legs? God bless comics.
Yes, Raven is so adorably morbid.

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Well, ok then. But I still think it's a fan service [Big Grin]
That's not much of a criticism. [Wink]
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"I only hit on the clevage trick by accident and it seamed to work."

Uh-huh. Accident. Sure you did.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I've been trying to find a clevage trick that works for 8 years now.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
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Uh-huh. Accident. Sure you did.
At the risk of getting too deep into my persoanal life than anyone would care to venture; I'm one of those strange men for whom large breasts do absolutly nothing at all. Seriously. Give me an A-cup anyday.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
I can see people not having a thing for double-D silicon filled women (god knows Jordan makes me sick), but an A cup seems a bit of an over the top reaction. Surely we can interest you in a nice B or C?
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well it's more of a non-issue for me. I'm just not a "Breast Man". I guess the novelty is lost when you have a pair of your own man boobs.
 
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
 
"At the risk of getting too deep into my persoanal life than anyone would care to venture; I'm one of those strange men for whom large breasts do absolutly nothing at all. Seriously. Give me an A-cup anyday."

I fully agree. I still don't believe it was an accident.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
So fat men with breasts prefer women with none at all. Interesting.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Disturbing is closer to the truth.

While I had not really thought about it before, I rend towards women with a maximum of "C" cup.

The woman I like now (the same one from a few months back -as a replay or something) is an "A".

She's short though, so she still looks proportionate.
A 6' tall woman with A-cups might be a bit too skinny lokking though.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Not fat. Big boned!
But no Psy, the one's I've met seam all the more interested. It's just me that's weird that way.
 
Posted by Cartman (Member # 256) on :
 
"I'm just not a "Breast Man"."

Halfway down, every man is a breast man. Every man.
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
Except Michael.

And paedophiles, presumably.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
It's an odd experiance when my sexual preferences become more of a talking point than my artwork.
I really should produce something new before this thread becomes completely weird and creepy.

On a related note, I've just handed in the final pages for the DKA xmas issue, so look out for those in the next few days!
 
Posted by PsyLiam (Member # 73) on :
 
DOES IT HAVE BARE BOOBREASTS IN IT?
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Only if you count B'Wanna Beast.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Ok, who has that thread resurrection image? [Razz]

I know I don't normally subject you lot to my comic book related stuff, but I'm in a sadistic mood brought on by not having seen Dark Knight yet.
Anyway, here's my take on a Robin "Beyond" that I knocked together during a bout on insomnia the other night.
Carrie Kelley 1
Carrie Kelley 2
And to save people the bother of dredging through my deviantart account (yeah, right) and to justify the reviving the thread, here's what I eventually settled on for Batgirl.
Cassandra
Yes that isn't Max (like way back in the OP), I decided she'd be better suited with this job. [Wink]
 
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
 
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How dare you?!?!?
 
Posted by Daniel Butler (Member # 1689) on :
 
*rolls eyes* People, please! Bookmark the image location! *rolls eyes again*
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
In my defence, it's the first thread I've revived in a while, so it never occurs to me to save it!
 
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
And tell me why exactly that image isn't on FlareUpload?

Rev, I gotta admit I'm not exactly up on the whole Batman Beyond thing, but I like the look of your Batgirl. Robin looks a bit tomboyish, but I suspect that was intentional.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well then I suggest you get up on it! [Wink]
As for Robin, yes she is meant to be something of a tomboy, which as I recall is how Frank Miller characterised her.
 
Posted by Lee (Member # 393) on :
 
TNXS. I LOVE BATGIRLS INTO PLAY

(sorry, couldn't resist)
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Thread revive is up on Flareupload. See? [Razz]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
I just want to point out, that looks nothing like the real stonehenge. [Wink]
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Well no, not now...
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Not ever. Trust me, I can see the thing from the bottom of my road and the stones are nowhere near that regular. It's always bugged me how they're always depicted as being neigh on perfectly uniform.


...so why did I revive this thread again?
 
Posted by Shik (Member # 343) on :
 
So that we could also revive henge gags.

Your art makes my henge drool a bit.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Don't get too excited, they're only model sheets.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Yeah but right now he's getting excited by Sears catalogues.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
...well at least for Shik, that's an improvement.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Not if it's the "Juniors" section. [Wink]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Now now.
 
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Daniel Butler's Butler's manservant's brother's sister's nextdoor neighber's mother's frn'ech poodle's postalman (who works for the Butler's Brother, The Professor, in the Lbrary. With the candlestick:
*rolls eyes* People, please! Bookmark the image location! *rolls eyes again*

How do i do that? *glances down the thread*


oh. Cool!

*adds ReverendTrigster to his Deviant Art links*
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
...a few months later and I've done a few more model sheets; Flash, Nightstar, Flamebird, Wonder Girl, Batgirl-Beyond (yet again), Green Arrow and Enya...I mean Raven

I don't actually plan these things ahead of time, I just get inspired by something and do them off the cuff. Most took less than an hour to put together and I think it shows.
Believe it or not I have attempted a few male character designs, but I can't hook onto anything that appeals to me. Call me a perv, but I find the idea of drawing arse kicking young girls dressed in skin tight far more appealing than drawing men of a similar vocation. I have a few ideas though...
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Looking good, Kris. [Smile]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
...and I've been so bored this week I've done two more.
Huntress
Spoiler

I really should finish the Apollo or something but all those windows make me sleepy.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
"Hunt hunt hunt, she's the Huntress...."
 
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
"Hunt hunt hunt, she's the Huntress...."

LOL! That's the first thing that came to my mind, too!

And "Spoiler"? What, does she go around saying things like "Vader is Luke's father!" and "The chick in The Crying Game is a man!"?

But nice work on the art! I imagine it's rather difficult to come up with different enough faces to make them easily distinguishable.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Hey I don't name these things, I just design them!
Though if my very limited comic book knowledge is right, Spoiler was the daughter of some supervillan and would go out and interfere with (or "spoil") his heists. Though to be honest when I first heard the name, my thoughts were more towards her being a speedster. Because, you know that thing on the back of fast cars.

And yes, in this minimalist style it's very hard to make the face look distinct. Raven for instance was an absolute nightmare! Must have gone through ten iterations before I settled on something that didn't look like Marilyn Manson doing a "Madonna dressed as Alice Cooper" impersonation. Seriously, it was weird.

I still think Spoiler looks more like Sarah Michelle Gellar than the character in the comics, but I can't seam to fix it. Huntress was easy as she's supposed to be the daughter of an existing character (two existing characters actually), so I at least had a place to start.

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
"Hunt hunt hunt, she's the Huntress...."

What's that from?
 
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
Freakazoid. It was actually "Hunt hunt hunt he's the Huntsman!" A crime fighting type character that never actually got to do anything.

:edit: Ah, here we go! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPbIiLrNGZo
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Ah. I think that show was a little after my time.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
Aren't you the same age as me? That show was on when I was a kid...
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
I'm 26, for what it's worth. Of course it's possible it just wasn't on over here, or I had stopped watching kid's tv by that point. Being a country boy, I only even watched telly before dinner when it was simply too cold/wet/dark to be out and about, so maybe it was on during the summer when I spent most of my time in the woods, up the track or out on the plain. I was very outdoorsy as a child.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
I'm 24 and Freakazoid was just about on the edge of being past my time but not quite. Doesn't mean I watched it, though... *shrug*
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
Ah Freakazoid, my time!
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fabrux:
I'm 24 and Freakazoid was just about on the edge of being past my time but not quite. Doesn't mean I watched it, though... *shrug*

Well there you go. At that age 2 years can make all the difference. [Wink]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Here. A Freakazoid episode with not only the Huntsman but with Fatman & Boy Blubber and Fanboy!
These are all on DVD now and well worth buying. [Cool]

The Huntress was originally an "Earth 2" character and was the daughter of Batman and Catwoman- she was romanticly involved with Dick Grayson (in his adult Robin persona with longpants) and they operated out of the batcave after Batman died.
DC revamped the Huntress character back in the 80's and gave her a new origin- her character on the Justice League Unlimited series was one of the best -and she played opposite The Question (voiced by trek's Jeffrey Coombs).

...and now you know the rest of the backstory!
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Interesting. That show was done by Dini and Timm as well (same blokes behind allot of the the DC animated shows.) I wonder if their involvment in this Freakazoid had anything to do with this character appearing on Batman.
 
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reverend:
Interesting. That show was done by Dini and Timm as well (same blokes behind allot of the the DC animated shows.) I wonder if their involvment in this Freakazoid had anything to do with this character appearing on Batman.

Actually, yes. From what I've read, Dini and Timm were at odds with Spielberg over the tone that Freakazoid should take. Dini and Timm wanted it to be a more action-oriented series with less humor; Spielberg wanted less action and more humor. Dini and Timm eventually left Freakazoid, and their ideas eventually got used in Batman as the character of the Creeper.
 
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reverend:
I'm 26, for what it's worth. Of course it's possible it just wasn't on over here, or I had stopped watching kid's tv by that point.

quote:
Originally posted by Fabrux:
I'm 24 and Freakazoid was just about on the edge of being past my time but not quite. Doesn't mean I watched it, though... *shrug*

[Eek!] [Confused] The show was on from 1995-1997 (I'm 34 now and was 21 when it started). IMO, you had to be *at least* in high school to get all the jokes. My college roommates & I loved watching this (& Animaniacs). Even my wife loves quoting this stuff to this day! It really confuses the kids when she starts singing "Runs around in underwear"! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
You don't have to get all the jokes to enjoy a cartoon, although there's probably a certain age range between childhood and adolescence where immature cartoon no longer appeals and the more mature references fly over one's head. Personally, as I said I simply stopped watching kid's TV at a certain point, which is probably why I missed this one.

Getting back on topic, I've designed my first villain: Duela Dent
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Back to Freakazoid!, His nemesis was a Kahn knock off- voiced my Ricardo Montablan himself!

Nothing like hearing him do the "Kahn" voice: "He tasks me!"
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
And back to my scribblings...
Azrael
 
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
And here I was expecting an orange cat.... [Roll Eyes]

Nice work, though! What's the... thing.... on his mouth?
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
I think the technical term is a "mask".

Orange cat?
 
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
The cat in the Smurfs cartoon? Come on, man!
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Again with my cartoon ignorance! Never really saw the smurfs.
The first thing that comes to mind when I hear the name Azrael is an old PS1 game called "Space Hulk". Mostly because the Marines were constantly walking into walls and getting each others way. To whit came the response: "Azrael, get out of my way!"

As for the red design on the mask, it's something featured in several of Az's MANY costumes though I'll be buggered if I can guess at it's significance. In a nutshell it's a combination of this design, with elements of this and a chunk of this drawing by Craig Rousseau which I coloured some years ago as a test.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
P.S. I updated the Duela Dent costume. I thought it best to give her an overcoat since a cosplayer girl decided to make the costume for herself and I have no with to be blamed for anyone catching their death of cold! Plus it looks cool.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
P.P.S. I also fiddled with and came up with a slightly altered version of Carrie Kelly/Robin Beyond
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Ever done an Anarky [small]yes it's spelled that way in the comics- dont ask me why)[/small]?

He's a very cool character- one of the Bat's only foes that has aged (when he first appeared he was only 14 years old- now he's at least 20).


hmmm....and old Talia and fully grown (middle-aged?) Damian might be cool.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Five seconds on Wikipedia tells me that Anarky looks too much like a 'V for Vendetta' rip, so it'd have to be a complete redesign (plus he's already been done in the Bruce Timm style.)

As for Talia; her fate in the "Beyond" time frame has already been told. If you don't know what it is already then you probably don't want to. It's really creepy.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
The "V" rip depends greatly on the artist- I've seen his costume with more of a romanesque mask.


Go on a tell me 'bout Tallia- I can take it.

How 'bout Ragman? He lives in Gotham. So does the goden age Green Lantern (with his magic ring) and someone has to have inherited that power.
 
Posted by Vanguard (Member # 1780) on :
 
Talia's stored on floppy disk (there's a REASON that Ras was insane in protecting that computer. He couldn't rebuild the DATA on it.) So she could, in some capacity, actually come back in a new body.

Her old one, though (which Ras possessed) ... that's pretty much toast.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
quote:
Go on a tell me 'bout Tallia- I can take it.
Just imagine David Warner's voice coming out of her body and you get the picture.

As for the golden age GL, as far as I know he's not in the DCAU continuity.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Creepy- poor talia.
I did not mean the golden age GL was still kicking around personally- just that someone would have the magic lantern and ring.
The original GL is not connected to the green Lantern Corps like that kid on JLU was.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Yeah, I get what you meant, but since the golden age GL isn't in continuity then there'd be no magic ring for anyone to inherit. I could make it up, but that would smack of cheating. Besides, designing GLs has never really appealed to me as there's already millions of the buggers.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Yeah but the old GL is not-strictly speaking- a Green Lantern: it's not a related power source and he never was part of their organization or anything.

Back to Ragman- he's a crazy cool supernatural character with a great backstory that could be easily adapted to the future setting.

So could Firefly (bad guy) for that matter, as he's already a high-tech powered character.


Ohhhh....how 'bout a new Bane? They never did him right in the animated series.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well, as a rule I'm trying to avoid retreading old ground as it's something Bruce Timm & co made a point of doing. So Bane and Firefly are out. Ragman...I'm honestly not very up on comic books, so I had to look that one up and the design just doesn't grab me - looks a bit too much "The Mummy" meets "The Spectre". What I'll probably do is sketch up a bunch on concepts and assign original characters to them, rather than trying to think of a character first.

As for Alan Scott, I realise they've shoe horned him back in, post-crisis, but I think a different kind of GL would be too confusing and I'm trying to keep the characters something that could plausibly turn up in Timm's continuity. I might have a stab at re-envisioning Jade though, of I pretended Scott was an actual GL in the time between Rayner,Stewart & Kai-ro. Perhaps if the mother was a GL too, something weird could have happened during conception to imbue her with the ring's abilities.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Alan Scott also has a fairly nutty son named Obsidian with darkness/teleport powers for that light/dark sibling thing.

You could even give DC continuity a nod in some new character's background- some reporter working for Tyler Chemicals or the Gotham Broadcasting Company for example.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well I'm framing this little pocket of indulgence (since that's all it is really) against the backdrop of a "No Man's Land" type scenario, set some 30 years post "Batman Beyond" (that's 15 years after the JLU "Epilogue") so there aren't exactly going to be allot of news agencies or corporations functioning. See here for the long version.

As for Obsidian; I'm reasonably sure they used a version of him in JLU already.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Just did a quick colouring piece the other day that turned into three slightly different images:-
White Phoenix, White/Green Phoenix and of course Dark Phoenix.

Not on topic I know, but bugger it, it's my chuffin' thread so I can post whatever I like! [Wink]
Might as well make it my official "ooh look what I posted on DeviantArt" thread.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
*points*

There, how's that? [Wink]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Rev, Jean looks great iin those but the cat eyes on the Dark version are distracting- go with the "empty" look and it'll be a showstopper.

Maybe even have a bit of flame coming from her eyes on the dark version.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Fabrux:
*points*

There, how's that? [Wink]

It'll do. [Wink]

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Rev, Jean looks great iin those but the cat eyes on the Dark version are distracting- go with the "empty" look and it'll be a showstopper.

Maybe even have a bit of flame coming from her eyes on the dark version.

I thought I fixed the eyes already...bugger. *hammer hammer* *saw saw* *ping*
Done.
As for adding flames; that would be rude. Generally colourists aren't supposed to alter the original drawing. Besides, flames would drown out the face.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Very nice- she's a Trans-Am commercial waiting to happen. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
And again with a Marvel character.
I think I'm getting better.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
And now today's entry; for those who never thought Orko could ever look even slightly dark or badass. I was surprised too.
 
Posted by Vanguard (Member # 1780) on :
 
Looks a bit like the Black Mage from FF9 ... pretty good. [Smile]

So, you do commisions, Reverend? [Smile]
 
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reverend:
And now today's entry; for those who never thought Orko could ever look even slightly dark or badass. I was surprised too.

Orko? Dark? Does... not... compute...

*Head explodes*

Nice work, though.
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
I'm still waiting for a Rom the Spaceknight Beyond. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
How "beyond" can toaster look?

Now Starshine or Trapper....that could work.

Incidently and off-topic, Marvel has brought back the remaining Spaceknights in their excellent Anihilation/Conquest/ Guardians of The Galaxy books.
Poor saps, they got all "Phalanxed" but I think they got all better after Ultron got gacked.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Vanguard:
Looks a bit like the Black Mage from FF9 ... pretty good. [Smile]

So, you do commisions, Reverend? [Smile]

Never played any of the FF games, so news to me.

As for commissions, sure, just remember I didn't draw or ink that, just coloured it.
quote:
Originally posted by WizArtist II:
I'm still waiting for a Rom the Spaceknight Beyond. [Big Grin]

What is a Spaceknight and why should I care?

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
How "beyond" can toaster look?

Now Starshine or Trapper....that could work.

Toaster? Starshine? Trapper? Your words mean nothing to me.

quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Incidently and off-topic, Marvel has brought back the remaining Spaceknights in their excellent Anihilation/Conquest/ Guardians of The Galaxy books.
Poor saps, they got all "Phalanxed" but I think they got all better after Ultron got gacked.

Seriously, you lot are calling my geek credentials into question; I have NO idea what you're talking about.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
...And on a more spidery note.
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
I wonder how annoying that hair gets swinging around all the time... [Wink]

Amazing work, as always, Kris!
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Superheroine hair is impervious to the laws of physics.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Her breasts defy the laws of physics: maybe they're pulling her along?

You guys ever notice hoe charcaters like Kitty Pryde of Rachel Summers or Rogue can go from "B-cup" to "DDD" depending on the artist?
I mean, I've seen sixteen year old Karma (the asian girl from New Mutants) suddenly drawn with a Power-Girl rack.

Methinks comic book artists either dont know how to draw other body types or it's a side-effect of women getting powers.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Some artist do indeed like to over emphasise the busts. The most noticeable case that I've spotted was Cassandra Cain (5ft nothing athletic little half Asian girl) who could go from an A to a D or large C and back again from one issue to the next.
You'd think it would just be male artists with that kind of juvenile fixation, but I've seen female artists who are just as guilty. Perhaps it's just the medium, but my preference it towards the realistic and I can't even well endowed women, who are essentially athletes wear anything that'd slow them down or get in the way.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
And for today's entry...more Marvel characters.
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
Her breasts defy the laws of physics: maybe they're pulling her along?


MMMMMmm.....POWER GIRL!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Reverend:
Seriously, you lot are calling my geek credentials into question; I have NO idea what you're talking about.

ROM - Spaceknight was a Marvel character from the 80's. He had a 75 issue run. It's worth a trip to the comic shop. I'm hopefully going to finish my synopsis of the series shortly and post it on the MarvelWiki. The others that Jason mentioned are fellow Spaceknights. Again there is SOME info on the Marvel Wiki.
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:


Incidently and off-topic, Marvel has brought back the remaining Spaceknights in their excellent Anihilation/Conquest/ Guardians of The Galaxy books.
Poor saps, they got all "Phalanxed" but I think they got all better after Ultron got gacked.

From what I have picked up on, only a portion/squadron of the Spaceknights were actually infected with the Phalanx virus and I believe they were released along with the other 'Selects' when Ultron got nuked. I would love to see some ongoing stories with those Galadorian Galoots. BTW, you interested in a series synopsis when I get it completed?
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Sure- you mean a Rom series synopsis?
Dont forget the connection between the Skrulls and the Wraiths or Rom suckering Galactus that time.
That was funny.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Taking a break from the spandex crowd: Liz Sherman
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
And back to the spandex crowd: Wolverine
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
...and back the other way again: Abe, Hellboy & Liz
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Nice takes on the BPRD gang: my favorite comics group just now- your Liz looks tough and attractive without looking like a pin-up model.
A tough distinction in the comics field, IMHO.


Gotta say, I like your look for Hellboy a LOT more than the crap animation style used for the animated movies- for the life of me I cant figure out why they went with that lame animation studio instead of the guys that animate the hilarious Screw-On Head cartoon- that was as though they had animated Mignola's artwork itself.


But I rant.

The Woverine is okay but it's a bit of a peeve of mine when artists give his claws a curve- they're unbreakable and need to retract into his forearms so a curved blade is not a good idea.
Still, better than Rob Lifield's awful version- Wolverine's claws were both much longer than his forearms and taller than the thickness of his wrist!

As long as you're on a BPRD kick, how about Johan (the guy with the transaparant baloon-like body) or Roger the homonculus.

Martian Manhunter and Starman would both be very cool as well.
(Starman being one of my favorite characters, after all)
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Given that I'm a colourist, I'm rather dependent on the skills of better artists who can actually draw and so far I've yet to find a black and white rendering of Johan that I like. Have to say though, I rather prefer the design used in the movie to the human balloon animal.

Same rule applies to the bendy claws, that's just the way the guy drew it.

Which version of Starman do you mean? I gather there's several of them. As for J'onn, I know I shouldn't but I rather like the newer design they're using for him.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
The most recent design for the Manhunter is a charred corpse- he got immolated in Final Crisis.

I keep forgetting that you're the colorist and not drawing as well- please pass along my compliments.
Your coloring on the Liz Sherman piece is really what makes it look so cool, BTW. [Wink]

You should google up some inked pages and practice on them, then print them, then ge yourself to Megacon, then get yourself a job in the comics field.
All so you can eventually become Editor In Chief at Marvel and appoint me Continuity Editor.

I'll insist that the artists start drawing guys like Dum-dum Dugan and reed Richards at their proper ages!
 
Posted by WizArtist II (Member # 1425) on :
 
You might try Comic Art Fans

Lots of good (and some not so good) work and ORIGINALS.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
The most recent design for the Manhunter is a charred corpse- he got immolated in Final Crisis.

I keep forgetting that you're the colorist and not drawing as well- please pass along my compliments.
Your coloring on the Liz Sherman piece is really what makes it look so cool, BTW. [Wink]

You should google up some inked pages and practice on them, then print them, then ge yourself to Megacon, then get yourself a job in the comics field.
All so you can eventually become Editor In Chief at Marvel and appoint me Continuity Editor.

I'll insist that the artists start drawing guys like Dum-dum Dugan and reed Richards at their proper ages!

Yeah I heard DC are killing everyone off lately. I'm sure they'll all be back again...and again. Still, I was referring to that blue, high collared, full length costume. Something about the bare legged and mostly bare chest look that never sat right with me. Of course technically being a shape shifter he's naked all the time anyway, but that doesn't mean he can't have some style.

quote:
Originally posted by WizArtist II:
You might try Comic Art Fans

Lots of good (and some not so good) work and ORIGINALS.

I've had a look on that site before and mostly it seams to be built around actioning off original artwork. As a result, not many of the well drawn inks are posted in a high enough resolution to be viable for colouring.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Another pair of character designs: Catwoman & Catgirl
(Not hugely imaginative names, I know.)
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Getting back to colouring mutants...
Armor (WIP)
Dazzler (WIP)

I'm probably going to need some harsh criticism on these since I'm not familiar with either of these characters and I'm depending on whatever reference pics I could unearth with a 5 min google session.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Had to redo Dazzler due to a poorly timed BSOD (bloody thing crashed as I was saving!) I think it's better for it though.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Everybody's favourite boring git: Scott Summers/Cyclops
Not finished yet, but if I waited until this series of pics are done before posting then I probably wouldn't be posting anything until sometime next spring! [Wink]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Here's something for Cowboy Bebop fans only. [Wink]
 
Posted by B.J. (Member # 858) on :
 
Nice! I love Cowboy Bebop! My only quibble is that Ed looks... off, for some reason. I can't tell if it's the original line-art or your coloring, though.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well if she didn't look at least a little "off" it wouldn't really be Ed now would it? [Wink]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
..and in a totally different style: Samurai Champloo
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Getting warmed up with a nice simple character design after having to put my PC back together again: Black Canary Beyond
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Try giving her both blonde and brunette hair- sorta a holographic disguise to look either way.
(in the comics, the blonde hair is a wig)
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Tried it. Looked weird. Besides, I like the mixture of black and blonde, sort of says "black canary" in and of itself.
Plus of course hair colour is hardly a reliable method of identification in city of millions, so I think her identity is safe, at least according to the rules of comic book logic.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Another quick one, this time it's a sword wielding former assassin with no depth perception! No, not Daryl Hannah:-
Ravager Beyond
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Two more today!
Donna Troy and this thing that I did to celebrate my 10,000th pageview on DeviantArt.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Nice sun effect on that group shot.
Sol: Beyond.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
It's just a couple of blurry squiggles with a dodge filter. After 2 years colouring a webcomic I've become very practised with the funky lighting effects.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Indeed you have- I showed that pic to my roomate and he's going to read all the web-comics to see who everyone is.
I could tell him that most are just charcter ideas but that would lessen the overall mischief.
And the world need more of that, IMHO.

You should start drawing your own stuff like, HEY! where the hell is Aban these days anyway?
As I recall, he got married- possibly he's been reproducing and being responsible or somesuch.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Well he's in for a wild goose chase. I think less than a dozen of those designs are actually from the strip.
Still, congrats if he makes it all the way through! Even I had trouble understanding what the hell was going on half the time.

I'm sure I've seen loitering Aban around a thread or two in the last few weeks, or maybe months. I think it's as much down to the board being allot quieter than it used to be as anything else.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Yeah, as soon as I griped that Aban is never around, I saw him on another thread.
Aban! Post some new art ya slacker!

It's strange, we get a LOT of new members but they seem mute....possibly you've intimidated them with your mad skillz.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Somehow I doubt it.
Anyway, more Donna Troy!
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Any 'Teen Titans' fans? No? Well tough luck!
Raven, Cyborg, Beast Boy, Starfire, Terra and the rest.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
A couple more done sine that last lot, both second gen characters and both named after colours oddly enough: -
Indigo
Red Robin
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Back on a colouring tack again today: Rogue Coloured
Now that I've stood back from it for a few hours, I'm afraid I might have made it a little too dull...
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Ever seen a pony tailed she-mullet? You have now!
 
Posted by Mark Nguyen (Member # 469) on :
 
So, Rogue liked Hitler..?

Excellent Shiva, though. Love the expression on the face.

Mark
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
quote:
So, Rogue liked Hitler..?
I take no responsibility for the political views of fictional characters or the artists that ink them. We colourists dwell in a nice moral grey zone.
...Besides, Superman does that all the time! Although if you ask me, she looks more blissed out than anything. Maybe it's the way he drew the eyes but I was left distinct impression that she had partaken of the gange and had paused to examine the fascinating shape of the clouds. I'm sure there's a Bill Bailey gag in there somewhere...

quote:
Excellent Shiva, though. Love the expression on the face.
Thanks, I was going for the old "I could disembowel you with my little toe, but I'm not in the mood" type expression.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Couple more this month!
It's dark and he's wearing sunglasses
Super Skydive
Bat Outa Hell
Hellgirl
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Reverend:
A couple more done sine that last lot, both second gen characters and both named after colours oddly enough: -
Indigo
Red Robin

Strangely enough, Tim Drake, not Jason Todd, became Red Robin in the comics (just a month or so back).
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
So that makes all the major robins now, yes? Grayson was the "original" Red Robin in Kingdom Come as I recall?
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Er...yeah. that's all of them.
Tim Drake is by far a better, more interesting and believable character than Dick Grayson, Jason todd or that Damian kid (the son of Bruce and Talia) that's wearing the new Robin costume.

Plus, the batmobile now flies, and no, it's not anywhere near as cool as the Batman beyond version.
The art is attempting to do a psydo-retro thing: the cars all look vaguely 1950's-ish and it really does not match the rest of the DC universe (where they sort of keep things looking like the real world).
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Another month goes by, another picture of Rogue coloured.
 
Posted by jeffmw (Member # 2125) on :
 
Reverend I was wondering if you have the stime if you could help me out with a starfleet ship logo? thanks
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Ok, summer slacking time is over, time for a little Batgirl.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
...And summer slack time is on again...uh...time for some Terry and Diana!
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
The first time I tackled this one it was over 3 years ago (May '07? how time flies!) and since then I like to think I've learnt a thing or three. So I thought to mark the time, why not go back and redo the thing from scratch?
It's still the same basic design, it's still Cassandra but the techniques and the (for lack of a better term) skill is all new!

So here's: Batgirl Beyond - Redux

What do you think? Better? Worse or just as crap? ;-)
 
Posted by Fabrux (Member # 71) on :
 
The face certainly looks better and more in line with the Batman Beyond style, although I'm not sure what's up with the exaggerated swagger you gave her... [Wink]
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
Yeah that original face is embarrassingly bad. I think it mostly suffered from my trying to persistently adjust what I started with to get it "right" when I should have just ditched it and started over when it wasn't working.

As for the pose, I just thought something a little more dynamic was called for since the first one made her look like she was standing with a pole up the jacksy.
 
Posted by Williamlk (Member # 2236) on :
 
I only got a brief look, but nice work you got there!
 


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