I've made no secret of the fact that (say it with me now) I am not a ship guy. I had to dive deep into the depths of the UP3 forum to fish out Bernd's Wolf 359 ships write-ups, and the way it seems to be formatted, the "Quad-Nacelle" ship and the Rigel seem to be seperate classes. However, the "Quad-Nacelle" folder I have has two diagrams that are labelled as the Rigel, and this ship does appear to have four-nacelles.
Are the "Quad-Nacelle" and Rigel the same? Heck if I know. The Rigel info (right next to the "Quad-Nacelle" info in Bernd's write-up, adding to my confusion) is included for completeness. Since nobody's been responding to the UP3 threads lately, maybe this is just the thing to spark some debate.
Or maybe I'm just the only person here who doesn't know the answer to this.
Whichever.
Anyway, write-up by Bernd with diagrams by TSN. Enjoy.
Quad-nacelled ship In BoBW as well as TNG: "Unification" a four-nacelled ship can be seen, neither of which seems to be the Cheyenne class. The ship is almost definitely another Excelsior study model of three or four to exist. The ship features four nacelles, a long (possibly telescopic) horizonal connection structure. It is interesting that the ship apparently uses a saucer from AMT's Enterprise-refit kit and yet another variant of the Oberth-like nacelles. According to Michael Okuda, the ship is hanging from the ceiling in the DS9 art department.
Known quad-nacelled ships: No name or registry known
Occurences: TNG: "Best of Both Worlds, part II" TNG: "Unification, part II"
Note: The model was labeled "U.S.S. Alka-selsior NCC-2000". We prefer to ignore that.
Rigel According to Mike Okuda the Rigel-class Tolstoy was probably not on screen at all, but later inserted in to the dialogue. Previous fan descriptions of the Rigel as a three-nacelled Galaxy kitbash obviously referred to what is actually the Niagara.
Known Rigel-class ships: U.S.S. Tolstoy NCC-62095, TNG: "Best of Both Worlds, part II"
[ October 25, 2005, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: Krenim ]
Posted by Captain Boh (Member # 1282) on :
First picture does appear to be the four nacelled Excelsior prototype, second one 404s
Posted by Krenim (Member # 22) on :
quote:Originally posted by Captain Boh: First picture does appear to be the four nacelled Excelsior prototype, second one 404s
Fixed. Sorry about that.
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
I named the diagrams thus because I have a theory (or, at least, had a theory; I haven't thought about it recently) that this ship should be called the Rigel class. Something to do with it being on the screen when the Tolstoy is mentioned? Or was supposed to be mentioned? Was that the one that they cut out, or something? I really don't remember.
Regardless, the "four-nacelled Excelsior study model = Rigel" idea was mine. That's what cause your confusion.
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
Waaaay back in the day, Lobo made a purdy 'lil TNG era ship we called the Rigel class and I made a model of it and everything.
Andrew even photoshopped a pic or two of it.
Thus, I'd rather the four nacelled thing be the Merced or something else. The diagram is not real accurate for the excelsior study model- it should be much longer (though it looks better shortened).
Posted by TSN (Member # 31) on :
Well, I was drawing it from scratch with a single reference photo...
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
It's not bad at all- far more practical than the model, really.