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Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Found an old screenshot I took many years back, this is the first time I actually read the info on the dogtag, was kind of interested if it's accurate compared to real ones.

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The middle rows are service numbers, I assume, but the bottom row confounds me, I can't quite make it out, nor guess as to its meaning. "ORTHOLIC"? It doesn't seem to have anything to do with Fort Bragg, is it army lingo or could it be a production team injoke?
Also, first and middle name "C.E"? That doesn't sound relatable to Jim at all. And it can't be his rank, can it? "Colonel Extraordinaire"?

Sadly, I have to inform you that anyone on this forum who don't know what film this is from will be pulled out of their beds at night and sent to reeducation camp. [Frown]
 
Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
 
I believe the word at the bottom may be "catholic"

The top row is the name, followed by his social security number, the third row is blood type, and last row is religious preference.

Some think that because the standard number of links in the chain is 365, it can be used by POW's to count the days in captivity.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
I agree. The third line looks like "A POS". The last line says "CATHOLIC".

I actually got myself a set of tags made that I wear when I travel in case I'm in an accident. Mine have my name, social security number, phone number and "No Blood Trans." So useful if not quite official [Smile]

And um... I don't know what movie it's from. But he has awful purdy hands for a grunt slogging through the jungle.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
I agree. The third line looks like "A POS". The last line says "CATHOLIC".

So the military classifies him as a Piece Of Shit Catholic?

Fuckin harsh if you ask me, but I've never enlisted so... [Wink]
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Damnit Aban, it's out of my hands now. When they come, don't struggle and don't look at their faces. I'll try to pull some strings with the embassy but in such an open and shut case, I can't do much without some serious payola.

Basically, you'll be spending many hours in a troop transport vehicle together with Sven-Ole Thorsen, Franco Columbu and Sonny Landham. Angry men, men whose surly demeanor is only matched by their considerably flatulent high-fiber diets, with only the APC's emergency bean rations and power bars keeping them occupied and away from the burlap sack you travel in, like a piñata, during the ride to Puerto Vallarta.

It will all aid in helping you pay this…newly discovered debt to nerd society. Do you see?
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Aban Rune:
I agree. The third line looks like "A POS". The last line says "CATHOLIC".

I actually got myself a set of tags made that I wear when I travel in case I'm in an accident. Mine have my name, social security number, phone number and "No Blood Trans." So useful if not quite official [Smile]

And um... I don't know what movie it's from. But he has awful purdy hands for a grunt slogging through the jungle.

It's Predator. Hopper was on the first team sent in that got itself skinned and those dainty fingers are supposed to be Arnold's.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
Should be, at least on mine....

Last name
First name, middle initial
Social Security Number USN, blood type
[blank line]
Religious preference.

[ March 26, 2010, 10:00 AM: Message edited by: Hobbes ]
 
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
 
Was Hopper the one that got turned inside out?

Looks like the tag matches the one they gave you for the most part Hobbes. I make it as:

C. E. HOPPER
539 ?? ?73?
A POS
CATHOLIC


Note one - Shouldn't it say Huppar given Arnolds dulcet tones?

Note two - why's he called Jim? Could be a nickname. Probably changed the script after the props were made.

Note three - What's a US social security number look like? I've no idea if that'd fit.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
123-45-6789 for example.

Although on a dogtag there's no space or dashes. So it would be like 123456789USN A POS.
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Thanks guys, that was just the info I was looking for. Kind of morbid in a way, putting down the religion on the dogtag, just so they will know which rituals to perform on the body.

Ginger Beacon:
quote:
Was Hopper the one that got turned inside out?
Here's Hopper, and here's his merry band.

An FX-design comment on the dead body with the intact nose: his ribcage is open up to the collarbones, where the others' are intact, which means he probably got the "claws" there.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
Or if you have none. While I consider myself Christian, I don't pick a sect of it like Catholic or Baptist, or whatever. I actually take the line from the movie Dogma about how people took a good idea and formed a belief around it. "You can change an idea, but a belief is a lot trickier." That line stuck with me for some reason. Plus a history of people killing each other because they can't agree on how to worship the same god.

Anyway, as such my tags say 'NORELPREF'. Guess if I died in the field any military preacher would read over me.
 
Posted by AndrewR (Member # 44) on :
 
So your beliefs are based on the writings of Kevin Smith!?! Oh dear! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Purgatory is working at a convience store.
 
Posted by Hobbes (Member # 138) on :
 
I don't know if I'd put it that way. It's not like I think of his movies as scripture.

And also, I'm pretty sure all of Jersey is purgatory.
 
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
 
I think if I'm lying in bits in a foreign field, the last thing I'd be worrying about is the denomination of the holy man saying magic words over me. If his imaginary friend cant bring me back to life there and then, he's a waste of time and resources.

If the planet Earth ever needs an enema, the tube will be inserted in a small town called Stoneyburn in Central Scotland. It is the arsehole of the world, a genuine wretched hive of scum and villany.
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
It's dangerous to drink and post, Axem. The net is intelligent, probing you for weaknesses. They remember.
Stoneyburn? Funny, as stoneburners are mining tools and weapons of mass destruction in the Dune universe.

Ok, good job on the dogtag, guys. Round 2 of the "grunt memorabilia" quiz, to figure out the coat of arms and motto/phrase on this hip flask, if possible;

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Posted by Da_bang80 (Member # 528) on :
 
Pic's way to low res for me to make it out, the dogtag thing was a simple case of looking up dogtag formats on wikipedia.

All i can decipher is "OPPSENSULERN" or something like that.
 
Posted by bX (Member # 419) on :
 
De Opresso Liber: US Army Special Forces motto.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_oppresso_liber
 
Posted by The Ginger Beacon (Member # 1585) on :
 
Which would make the arms a scroly thing with a crossed pair of arrows and a sword.

Not (as I saw) a horse shoe and a pair of sunglasses.
 
Posted by Axeman 3D (Member # 1050) on :
 
No, it looks like a horse/sunglasses combo right enough.
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
No, it's this thing alright, good catch bX, I'm impressed. I'm also impressed by the prop guys responsible for these little details during the shoot.

The Special Forces link also goes neatly hand in hand with the next thing I would've posted if this hadn't turned up anything, namely Dillon's and Dutch's lighters, as shown in the choppah, from 1972, north of Hueh (insert courtesy of wikipedia).

EDIT: This also gives a very good reason for why Dutch (Arnold) knew Hopper, since Hopper and his Green Berets are the same service arm as him.
 
Posted by Aban Rune (Member # 226) on :
 
Samantha Carter actually quoted the Special Forces motto on Stargate. [Smile] Random sci-fi factoid there.
 
Posted by shikaru808 (Member # 2080) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hobbes:
Should be, at least on mine....

Last name
First name, middle initial
Social Security Number USN, blood type
[blank line]
Religious preference.

I guess the Navy does theirs differently. On mine (Army)....

Last name
First name, middle initial
xxx-xx-1234 (last four of social security number)
blood type
and religious preference on the last line.
 


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