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Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
You guys watch this yet? It's out on DVD so I'm just caught up now....

This was a great season, though the bog baddies made no appearances- Dooku, Grevious, Ventress and Jar Jar are all absent.

We do however get Mandalorians, a black lightsabre and a giant monster.

...and a Seven samuri tribute which i thought pretty cool.

Overall, not as dark as season one but still pretty harsh in places for SW.

Oh, and Anakin impales someone on his lightsabre in the funniest SW moment of all time!
 
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
 
I bought and watched season 1, not got 2 yet...
 
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
 
I watch it for research, of course, but I'm also often rather fond of it. That said, some episodes are a bit dull here in Season 3.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
I notice they pretty much thrown continuity out the window, making sequels and prequels to episodes from the first two seasons.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
If the prequel movies were contunity- then I say SCREW contunity!
Clone Wars is much better in every way- writing, drama and acting being most obvious.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
No I mean its becoming harder to determine the time frame of specific episodes, other than the fact they all seem to take place in the first couple of months of the war. But yeah the writing is pretty good, and the CGI characters are better at eliciting an emotional response from viewers the way the flesh-and-blood actors strangely couldn't in the prequel films.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Ah. I see- yes, you're right there- it's like how the hour-long special (which introduced Ashoka) happens 2/3 through season one, and when viewed after the episode where a clone selld them out to Ventress, makes perfect sense....but otherwise youre wondering where Anakin's padawan is for most of part season.
 
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
 
The timeline is ... interesting. There are prequel episodes to prequel episodes and so on, ad nauseum.

By the end, I hope to see that the continuity works nicely, but I fear you can't jump around in the timeline and maintain continuity unless you are *damn* sure what you're doing, well in advance.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Well they've been very keen not to tip the contunity apple cart- like never having Grevious and anakin meet face to face (as their only introduction is in Ep. III).

Just saw the trailer for the second half of season two- looks amazing.
Some Sith dude laughing off lightsabre strikes by deflecting them with his arms- darkforce lightening and...


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Ashoka turns to the dark side!
 
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
 
fuck. you are MAKING want to watch this series now...
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Plus they made all new CGI character models which look amazing!
Watch and be blown away!

Ashoka starts useing a second lightsabre with a shorter blade-- like a wakisashi- in addition to her main sabre.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
Yeah, I like how the Anakin model has less chin.
 
Posted by akb1979 (Member # 557) on :
 
*Drools*

Gimme! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Anyone watching it?
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
I am, though I missed last night's episode. That last three parter, I'm guessing it showed the Jedi totally misinterpreted the prophecy of the one who would bring balance to the force.
 
Posted by Reverend (Member # 335) on :
 
You know that bit in the prequels was a little hard to understand since it was never really explained how the force is not in balance to begin with. Was it balanced too much to the light because there were thousands of Jedi for only two Sith or because the Sith were the ones really running the show and the Jedi were practically blind?

A little more of that and a little less juvenile tantrums and board meetings would have been nice I think... [Wink]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
It seems that the Jedi are supposed to be far more powerful than they were in the prequels- which only makes sense I suppose if an order of maybe a couple hundred could have served as peacekeepers for an entire freakin' galaxy.

In Episode II Mace Windu suggests to Yoda that it might be time to tell the Chancellor that their ability to use te force is diminished-
What that means exactly is never made clear, though obviously clarivoyance used to play a much larger role in things.

Of course, the Chancellor already knows exactly how blind and "diminished" the Jedi are- since they could not detect his evil from across a desk!

Even Luke was more on the ball than that!

I think that the inbalance has less to do with the overall number of Jedi or Sith and more o do with the trillions of lifeforms in the galaxy living in an environment devoid of the darkside's components: fear, anger, etc.
In that sense, Anakin's going bad and the rise of the Empire would indeed have balanced scales- if the books are any indicator, the New Republic that takes the empire's place is a far less tranquil place- strife and turmoil is common but it's not total fear and oppresion either.

I can see the Jedi and Sith as focal points for opposing forces- Sith might each be compared to giant coal plants: belching pollution all the time and each causing a huge amount of damage to the environment while each Jedi is like a single tree in a forest: processing the bad in large numbers.

Or maybe Lucas just wrote someting he thoght sounded cool with no clear idea.
 
Posted by Mars Needs Women (Member # 1505) on :
 
I vote for the latter.
 
Posted by Guardian 2000 (Member # 743) on :
 
Just wait till you get to Mortis. Everything will change, yet it will all stay the same.

Even though it was by no means the same sort of story, it was as shockingly different a Star Wars tale as "Far Beyond the Stars" was for Trek.
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
Just watched Mortis via itunes- freakin' awesome!

A real departure...but obviously in line with the "Space opera" Lucas had in mind back at the begining.

Did the father remind anyone else of Alpha Trion from Transformers G1?
Same sorta "old wise man" thing with the same beard and eyes...

Pretty crazy episodes- I realy thought they were going to have to put Ashoka down for a minute...but even with two lightsabers, she was obviously not giving Anakin or Obi wan much trouble.

Cant believe seson 3 does not come out on DVD untill freakin October!

Gotta get me a bootleg...
 
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
 
you need to use the thread dusting. you are BESEICHED!(sp) and its cute...
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
So make with the Moses pic already!
Hook a poster up.
 
Posted by Nim (Member # 205) on :
 
Mortis is interesting (for a Darth Malak-clone), if Anakin didn't already have too much retconning and reverse backstory stuffed into him to choke a space slug. It's one thing for CW to come up with plot events that go against the Old trilogy, but it's bad if they put in stuff that challenges the narrative of the prequels, even.
 
Posted by Pensive's Wetness (Member # 1203) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
So make with the Moses pic already!
Hook a poster up.

do what i do, search it... [Razz]
 
Posted by Jason Abbadon (Member # 882) on :
 
So...lazy...powers...fading...

Nim, that's why I,kinda love the episodes- they''re SO out of step that I kept saying "This'll have a Reset Button or be a dream...and in the end, it kinda had both.

these Force wielders were pretty godlike and were a whole new set of archetypes for Star Wars (and Lucas loooves his archetypes).

Loved the vision Ashoka had of herself as an adult- and how they went with a more realistic CGI model of her for her adult self.
Well played.
 


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