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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Orion Syndicate: [QB] [QUOTE]Given the best-ever tried rehabilitation system, the recidivism rate (that is, the people who go out and commit the same crimes or worse again) is STILL 80%.[/QUOTE] Which means that 20% don't reoffend. Surely rehabilitation works if you can get these people out into society and contributing effectively. But you'd kill this 20% to stop the 80% reoffending? I'm not saying let everyone out - just the people who show signs of reform. That's what they did with Thompson and Venables - they were questioned by a panel for several hours and it was determined that they could be reformed, so they've been released. [QUOTE]And people who don't show remorse for their bad actions, there's a word for them. SOCIOPATH. And yes, they'll do it again, and again, and again, because they just don't CARE about the consequences. People such as that go on until they are stopped, permanently.[/QUOTE] If you did read my previous post, you'll have seen that I supported locking up these people for good, provided that after careful work, it could be shown that they could not be reformed. The 'remorse' argument however doesn't work in certain cases like crimes of passion where there is only one victim and there will not be another. Do you kill them because you can't be bothered to weed out the people who will go on to be useful members of society? [QUOTE]It's called 'school.'[/QUOTE] School is for 5-16 year olds (in this country anyway) a lot of whom probably don't understand the real reason behind why they're actually there and so don't put the work in. After spending some time inside, a lot of them will in my opinion realise the value of education and its usefulness in society. [QUOTE]You'd like to think so... but it doesn't happen often. Hell, half of them gain 'gang' cultural prestige for having been locked up... some of them may even get to see family members on the inside.[/QUOTE] Again, you seem to be willing to punish everyone, even the people with the possibility of reform because others may cause trouble in the future. In a so called civilised society, that is about as caveman like as you can get. If you really are civilised, you won't employ caveman tactics to counter caveman tactics - it's just counter productive. [QUOTE]We have this, too. "Three Strikes, you're out." Isn't working as much as it was hyped to, and the prisons are still filling up.[/QUOTE] For what types of crimes is this used - just serious crimes or for all, including minor theft. [QUOTE]It insures that that individual will NEVER harm another person again. They won't be paroled, pardoned, escape, or get released some other way. It generally balances out the crime... remember, these aren't milquetoasts who jaywalked. They MURDERED people, usually with what are called 'special circumstances' which usually means in a particularly awful or brutal way. Their deaths should balance the deaths of the person/s they killed. That they don't, that they're usually much softer, is what's unfair about it.[/QUOTE] So it satisfies the blood thirst of the victims families AND of your own society in general. How silly of me. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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