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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phelps: [QB] Every time somebody quotes a non-canon source, there will likely be another person saying, "that isn't canon", even though person A merely intended it as a theory. Yes, that's a problem. I disagree however that there is no truth in fiction. If you imagine Star Trek as a long novel-in-progress whose previous chapters can't be revised, any writer will agree that there are certain truths established in the former chapters that have to be adhered to in the later ones. Now, the no-revision format also requires scientific rationalizing by a good writer. That's where our kind of analysis comes in. We can derive scientific truths resulting from analysis of those basic truths. These theories and even mere collection of data are as personally-biased as any scientific research is, but far above mere personal belief. Like any scientific research, the reasons to accept this and reject that piece of data have to be well argued. Once the writer has our basic, scientific structure ("the first Klingon emperor must have been about hundred years old when he died"), she can add her creative view ("the first Klingon emperor named Q're'eded was 103 years old when he died of cancer") . Since the previous chapters consist mostly of previous shows, that is our data. If this were just for fun, a hobby, the exercise doesn't change one way or another if we include non-canon sources. You merely play the game on a more difficult level. However, and I know some people will disagree, this is a hobby only about 99% of the time. A part of discussing tech includes a desire that the writers/producers are affected by our ideas, and that they adhere to our theories. We're helping them finish the Star Trek novel by reminding them of what they need to know about the previous chapters. We're especially useful in preventing contradictions with our creative rationalizing of the past. I think the writing staff is suffering from not having one of us on the team. Again, it's about purposeful discussion, and I really don't think it was any looser in the past. People accepted the Star Fleet Technical Manual and blueprints because they really were authorized by Roddenberry for a while. They accepted the novels because they were licensed, and after all, who among the producers cared to make them non-canon? Star Trek was not being produced, so it didn't really matter. Then came tech fandom books, which were well done and publicized, and again, there was nobody to say, "this isn't canon." In fact, some of the material was referenced in the movies. However, when TNG arrived, canon again became relevant, and many materials were declared invalid. That's why most fans changed around. It's not really elitism, as it is a desire for accuracy and purpose, namely to see our discussions actually have relevance to what the producers and the writers are doing. And, judging from the increased involvment of some of them, like Rick Sternbach and Mike Okuda, we've been somewhat successful. Now, we know that writers like to pick up a TAS reference or a novel idea from time to time because they really liked these sources back in their younger days. Here's where we can try and slip the better non-canon materials in, by arguing that they were well done and well researched at the time, influential in fandom (which the writers ought to care about, it's their audience), and so on. It need not be whole works, but just a pervasive idea. Can we think of some, other than the Vulcan first contact which already got in through FC? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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