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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [QB] Star Trek as we know it, sure. But I have to say, the latest trailer from yesterday-ish is actually impressive. The show looks like crap and mostly stupid to me and thee, sure, but to a millennial popcorn crowd enraptured by flashy movie series based on teenager and children's books (!) it just looks wowwee and super-expensive (though the ramming doesn't look nearly as good as Rogue One), and it has Walking Dead girl and other known faces. They're carving out a sort of 4K TV overwrought detail-porn visual niche, kinda like the Bay Transformer polygon porn films. The overdone costumes and forcefields that resemble mini Tholian webs contribute to this visual complexity. The excess detail, if they can keep it up, might keep people tuned in if the story isn't just utterly crap… though actually, that's not even true with today's storytelling techniques. They just have to master the art of the teased out, overcomplex story. As modern Netflix successes show, even shallow crap can work if told mysteriously. For now, if they spew the trailer all over CBS some may tune in post-pilot. This is actually where the lies they've told about Prime vs JJ may work out, to some extent, if they can make noobs think they know all they need to know (phasers shoot, et cetera) while suckering in Prime people who think they have to watch it for completeness. Contrary to my prior posts, The Orville may not kill it. It is going to look cheap by comparison, despite production values looking at least as good as good (not counting HD bonus points) as TNG-ENT Trek. Even as it makes fun of self-important nonsense sci-fi like STD, in our vapid culture so happy to compartmentalize it will have to be hella-funny and surprisingly pointed to harm the overwrought STD that people will compartmentalize out of harm's way, and could even hurt itself. Whatever happens, this isn't Roddenberry's Star Trek, or even Berman's continuation with Piller and Behr and Moore keeping it good, or JJ's Star Wars Practice Round. This is a new and different thing, and while I am annoyed with their Prime lies and such, I'd say the tl;dr is that just because we don't like it, it may not fail. It will simply bring Trek down to the level of other crap, which JJ already started. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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