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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Krenim: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by TSN: [qb] The people in charge of the Star Trek shows currently being produced claim that those shows take place in the same universe as the shows that came before. They then apparently put little to no effort into making the current shows consistent with the old shows. How an individual viewer chooses to reconcile that in their own mind—separate universes, cognitive dissonance, etc.—is entirely between them and whatever god/gods/wormhole aliens they may or may not believe in. Not really much point in arguing about it. [/qb][/QUOTE]"So what are you in hell for?" "Mass murder. You?" "I thought all the [i]Star Trek[/i] shows were in the same continuity." "You MONSTER!" :D [QUOTE]Originally posted by Zipacna: [qb]But Kurtzman has said often enough that this is the same universe as classic Trek. You can dispute that as much as you like...but by your own arguement Kurtzman is some great god on high, and his diktats must be obeyed. It's hypocrisy to tell the rest of us that we're ignoring his supposed diktats over canon policy (which frankly looks to me as nothing more than a misrepresentation of what he actually said), while at the same time ignoring his statements that this is the same universe. Like it or not, TPTB are viewing this as the same timeline as we've always seen. We may not like it and there's certainly faults to be found, but that's nothing new. Sorry, I'm just tired of some of those who dislike new Trek coming out with the "waaaaa it's not the same universe" arguement. Those who disliked it said exactly the same thing about Enterprise 20 years ago. It was nonsense then, and it's just as much nonsense now. [/qb][/QUOTE]Agreed. I am in NO WAY stating that 3rd Gen Trek is the greatest thing since sliced bread. (Mmm... Slice bread...) It has its faults. Boy, does it have its faults. But I don't see where we suddenly started insisting that bad Trek needs to be in a separate timeline. I ESPECIALLY don't get it when people insist on that for things that 1st and 2nd Gen Treks ALSO did. Disco wasn't the first Trek to shoehorn a previously unknown sibling into Spock's past. Star Trek V did it first. Never seen anyone claim that movie is in a separate timeline because of that. (EDIT: Yes, I know Roddenberry himself thought it apocrypha. But since he had no more authority to declare that than Kurtzman, it IS canon.) Disco wasn't the first time the Klingons got a makeup change. The Motion Picture did it first. Were folks going around claiming the movie was in a different timeline? Nope. And while we have the benefit of hindsight NOW, let's not forget the franchise literally took DECADES to explain that. Take off your rose-colored glasses, folks. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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