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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Spike: [qb] [QUOTE]And, if you're trying to make some distinction between the Starfleet of the ENT-era and the one from all the other shows, none exists. At least, not in the minds of TPTB or the writers.[/QUOTE]Now, where did you get that from? Was there an interview? IMO the "new" class/registry-scheme is a strong indication that Earth Starfleet is different from Federation Starfleet. Even some novel writers think that there is a distinction between these two organization. [/qb][/QUOTE]Spikey, To my knowledge, NO ONE serving in ANY official or creative capacity on the show has EVER so much as suggested that the Starfleet of [i]Enterprise[/i] is in any way a different Starfleet from the one we've always known. Not Berman, or Braga, or anyone else. And it is clear (to my eyes, at least) that they are not treating it as such in the series. It is the same organization we've always known, albeit with a few things to be refined over the years. As I recall, the notion that it was somehow a different organization that just happened to have the same name was a FANDOM conception that arose right here ON THIS VERY BOARD, as a way of rationalizing the the then-brand new series with the ERRONEOUS idea that Starfleet was founded at the same time as the Federation, which had come down as conjecture (that which you yourself are usually so fond of debunking) through the Chronology and Encyclopedia, and was NEVER stated on screen. (The only way it was ever suggested was the 2161 founding date on the Starfleet Academy banner from "The First Duty" [TNG], and all that *really* tells us is that '61 was the year in which the ACADEMY was established, not necessarily Starfleet itself.) Starfleet is Starfleet. True, at this point it only comprises Earth ships. Does that make it a separate entity from the Starfleet of later times? No. True, it appears that it employs a different registry scheme. Does this mean it's not the same organization? No. These are things that will indeed likely change with the founding of the Federation, but does that mean that even after these changes occur it's a whole other agency? No. Earth has always been portrayed as central to the structure of the Federation. It is the capital. The office of the President and the chambers of the Federation Council are located on Earth. Starfleet Headquarters and the main branch of Starfleet Academy are on Earth. The vast majority of Starfleet personnel are human. The vast majority of Starfleet ships have human names. The official language of the UFP is English. It would seem to be clear that Earth is the single most important player within the UFP. (Of course, that's not necessarily something we all [i]like[/i], and I'm not saying that's a desireable thing, but historically that's how it's been portrayed.) In ENT, we're already seeing this role develop in that Earth is beginning to act as a mediator in the Vulco-Andorian war. Given the above, it makes perfect sense for Earth's space force, Starfleet, to absorb (at least partially---there's no concrete proof that UFP member worlds don't still have some defense forces of their own in addition to being protected by Starfleet, even in the 24th century) those of the other founding members when the Fed is incorporated in '61. (After all, if the capital is to be on Earth, why not make use of the instellations already in place there?) Not [i]be[/i] absorbed by some newly-created organization that just happens to be called the same thing. Obviously, that last paragraph is my personal view on the subject, but I think the indications are that TPTB are looking at it in essentially the same way. (Not that they've even thought it through as much as I just did, but they're certainly not differentiating between SF in 2151 and SF in 2371, beyond the fact that there are less ships around.) And, as a final note---though I know that these things don't carry any real weight with you, the article on Federation starships in the January 2003 [i]Star Trek: The Magazine[/i] has the following quote: [QUOTE]From "Introduction to Federation Vessels," page 32, paragraph 1: [i]"Starfleet began life as a purely human organization, operating a variety of warp vessels including [/i]Enterprise NX-01[i]. However, it came into its own with the formation of the Federation in 2161, and since then has been responsible for thousands of ships."[/i][/QUOTE]This of course is not canon (by your definition) and *could* conceivably be superceded by onscreen info at any time. However, I believe it represents the "official" viewpoint. (Meaning it won't be.) Take it as you will. -[b]MMoM[/b] :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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