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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Peregrinus: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sean: [qb] You know, a thought just occured to me. WE know that the E-nil went through a refit between the 2250's and the 2260's. ( depending on how the new movie version looks, there might be ANOTHER refit in there somewhere) What if Kirk's line of " only 12 like her in the fleet" referred to post (first)refit Connies. Not all of the Connies need be refitted at the time of that line, so that would allow for more than just 12 Constitution class ships in Kirk's era. Starfleet must have built more than 12 of it's most powerfull ships between 224_, and 2266 ( that is when TOS takes place right?), so maybe the older run of Connies were refitted, and the newer ones left as is and waiting for the TMP refit. I'm probably wrong though. [/qb][/QUOTE]I don't think you're wrong. That's sort of what I've been maintaining, and occasionally getting shouted down for, for years. I go with an extrapolation of FJ's vessel type/hull design number-block notion, and by that they were well into the production run by the time of TOS, since the [i]Defiant[/i] was NCC-1764, and probably wasn't the most recent one off the blocks. Even if she were only twenty years old by the time Kirk got her, the [i]Enterprise[/i] and the other survivors of such a surprisingly hostile galaxy (look at the attrition numbers for TOS alone, then estimate that backwards until you get to the ship's launch date) would have all achieved a sort of legendary status, the ones surviving longest being the most awe-inspiring. And since I like the idea that the [i]Enterprise[/i] entered service first, while the [i]Constitution[/i] remained a testbed vessel for a while, that would make the big "E" the longest serving Connie by the time TOS took place. Wonderful mystique... --Jonah [/QB][/QUOTE]
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