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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [QB] A supernova is a natural phenomenon; it cannot travel faster than light. The idea that Spock could have been en route in Vulcan's fastest ship and been beaten to Romulus by the supernova is ludicrous. As for the so-called "black holes," they behave absolutely [i]nothing[/i] like what we know of real black holes. The time travel thing is the least of it, I don't even mind that. There's just no conception in anyone's mind in the film that after swallowing Vulcan, or Nero's ship, or whatever, a black hole would only grow and continue to suck in more matter until it ate everything. It's not just something that can be shrugged off or magically disappear once the drama is over. The only semblance of believability technologies like warp drive and transporters have are their self-imposed limitations. If those limitations can be circumvented willy nilly at anyone's convenience through whatever plot device, they become totally unbelievable. On the larger issue of continuity, I do not believe it stifles creativity at all. Most of the time, the only reason to violate it is laziness, both on the part of the writer and the audience. You can talk all you want about canon getting in the way of good storytelling, but in my considered opinion, if your story violates the principal internal order (physical or historical) of the fictional universe in which it takes place, IT IS NOT A GOOD STORY. If you have to use contrivances that are disruptive to suspension of disbelief, IT IS NOT A GOOD STORY. PERIOD. If you don't want to be bothered with actually [i]knowing[/i] what has or hasn't been done and said, if you want a clean slate, to start from scratch, then do just that. Make up your own damn fictional universe instead of running amuck in one that's already been established. Invent something new and unique instead of constantly trying to reinvent, rework, reimagine, reboot, remake, repackage, rebrand, retread everything. Pop culture is becoming unhealthily derivative and people are eating it up with a spoon. The new film was fun and exciting to watch for two hours after years with no [i]Star Trek[/i]. The actors, for the most part, played their roles endearingly. The SFX were on the high side of average. The story was a bloody mess, though. Leaving wholly aside any contradictions that could be justified by the premise, even excusing the gaping plot holes as par for the course, it served no purpose other than to present a parade of (somewhat) familiar characters. If that was a good science (or even social science) fiction story then I'm very sad to be living in this very sorry era of science fiction. -[b]MMoM[/b] :mad: [/QB][/QUOTE]
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