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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Captain Untouchable: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [qb] You lost me with the "attention to detail" part. Yes, it's a fun movie but it's got far more than the usual amount of plot holes and VERY bad science for a Trek movie. [/qb][/QUOTE]Very bad science? I have to say, a lot of the science featured in the movie was actually more logical than we're used to in Trek. I'd be intregued to hear which science in particular you thought was bad. Or do you just mean it "was bad Trek science"... meaning actually realistic? Regarding attention to detail, I'm talking about little things; the lens flipping around on the phasers when the settings change; the PDF weapons; the fact that there were no SFX in space when the guy got blasted out during the Kelvin scene; that sort of stuff. They're completely unnecessary. They aren't a nod to existing stuff for the fans, since they're all new. They aren't the kind of things that casual viewers would remember from the show when they watched it either, so that isn't the reason. Someone has sat down and thought "Right, so how is this going to work?" and has put a hell of a lot of effort into the fine details that most viewers probably wouldn't notice. The only "reason" is attention to detail, in the truest sense of the term. [/qb][/QUOTE]Not the SuperNovas or the Black holes so much as spock seeing Vulcan be destroyed from the ice-planet's surface, Earth to Vulcan in six minutes, no communications with the fleet despite the "jamming" having been eliminated and YES, Transwarp beaming- I mean really, why bother with a fucking ship [i]at all[/i] after that's proven?!? Then there's the idiot notion that Kirk will run into Spock on the ice planet and they both with run into Scotty (now sadly reduced to a comedic catchphrase character) and all the other plot holes. Yeah, it's a "reboot" but throwing out all your established psydo-science is a huge waste and clearly the result of writer that could not be bothered to get it right with the franchise. Bad science, big plot holes, stuff that stains the plausability of even a Star Trek movie and the tossing of established rules for treknology are all indicators of a lack of attention to detail and/or respect for the source material. You decide which. ;) Incidently, I found the hand "phasers" really poorly designed- a big glowing indicator on your gun in a darkened environment is like having a "kill me" sign in neon over your position. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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