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Nim
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Have you guys heard about FMD?
Fluorescent Multilayer Disc? It's a new DVD-killer.

The manufacturers say it's 15 times bigger than a DVD-ROM and 200 times bigger than a CD-ROM.
A CD-ROM = 650mb, so an FMD-disc = ~130 GigaByte...

It is made out of ten transparent layers lying on top of eachother, but it's the same physical size as a CD.
So just how much do you think they'll charge us for a single disc durinbg the first year, huh?

Man this development is going too fast. The average joe hasn't even got use for a 40Gb harddrive.

I have 550 mp3- and wavsongs, 4 gigs of pictures and movies, five games installed at any given time, yet I don't need more than perhaps 15Gb on my HD. The rest is just slowing down my "Defrag".
So why do the big corps force us to buy 30- or 40-Gb HD's with our new machines??? BECAUSE THEY CAN!!!


Let me just say
SHEESH!

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Omega
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You don't do much gaming, do you? Six gigs isn't NEARLY enough for me. I could probably fill thirty.

Anyone else remember those credit-card sized dealies that were supposedly 2.4 TERRABYTES? Access rates of 100 MB a second? And less than $50 per medium?

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Nim
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Sorry, the science mag I took the info from seems to be in fault. Here's some newer data, from an article at SysOpt.com

"FMD is an acronym which stands for Fluorescent Multilayer Disc.
Whereas current DVD reflective technology only writes data to two layers on a CD, FMD technology allows data to be stored in multiple layers on a CD (up to 20 right now, and potentially up to 100 within a few years), while utilizing a red laser which maintains backwards compatibility with current CD, CD-R, and DVD formats.

Since each layer of a DVD data density format disc can store 4.7GB of data, 20 layers means approximately 95GB of storage on a single disc, with an access speed of 50-60ms and a data transfer rate of approximately 1 Gigabit per second.
Constellation 3D's research has shown that 100 layers are possible, which would allow a single 120mm CD to store 450GB+.
If a blue laser was utilized (which has a smaller wavelength than red laser, but is currently expensive to manufacture and too hot for consumer applications), 1 TeraByte is possible. If that isn't revolutionary, I don't know what is."

1 Terabyte on one plastic disc!!!!! Be still my heart...

Here's the whole article. http://sysopt.earthweb.com/articles/c3d-spot/index.html

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"Man this development is going too fast"

Impossible.

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Nim
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You going semantic on me?

I meant that the current range of storage devices are of a much bigger class and size than the public demand. They could wait a little longer until we really need these behemoth-harddrives, not just build them to be better than their competitors...

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MinutiaeMan
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Now, I am starting to recognize the wisdom in creating artificial means of measuring computer file size with terms like "quad"...

Data crystals, here we come!

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What I mean is, where is the downside to extra storage space?

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MinutiaeMan
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Well, after a certain point, it becomes pretty much useless. I have a 6 gig HD with my computer, and in more than two years, I've barely filled up half of it.

So a 40 gig HD wouldn't be much use for me at all.

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I've got a 20 GB on my other machine, and filled it up in less than a year.

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My nearest porn emporium is three point one kellicam away.

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Nim
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Yes of course people have different ways of using their HD and filling it.

I feel that one of the downsides with a mega-HD is similar to the problem with having a great lot of RAM. If you have 256Mb RAM or more, some applications takes longer to load. I know for a fact that Mac's take longer to start up the more memory they have.
It's the same with harddrives, the spin-up/spin-down time takes longer. If you don't want to buy some advanced Ultra-DMA/Bigass-SCSI thing, costing you a fortune just to get good rounds per minute (10000, 15000).

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Nim
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But what I really wanted to talk about was the FMD, I just wanted to mention the HD-thing. Of course I am happy to hear about this new breakthrough.

Apparently it can be used in many other areas except personal computers, and the cost for one 15 layer disc lands at 76 cents. Has someone been selling their soul to the devil?

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Awww damn, and I just bought a CD burner!

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How about the quality?

I know for a fact that DVD are vastly superior to CD in both video and audio.

If this FMD utilize the same tech as the CDs, then it only offers bigger storage then, which mean as a videophile and audiophile, I still go with DVD with higher quality.

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Nim
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Here are somne applications, as stated on the company's site.

FMD disc ROM (25-100 GB)

Digital cinema
HD video
HD games
Multimedia compilations


FMD disc WORM*, R/W (25-100 GB)

Data warehousing
PC storage
HDTV recording
Motion picture post production


FMC (ClearCard) ROM (5 GB)

Portable game, movie players
E-books
GPS
In-car, in-plane entertainment


FMC (ClearCard) WORM*, RW (5 GB)

PDA
Mobile phones
Digital cameras


*WORM = "write once, read many", such as a CD-R.

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