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I said Shik was brave because it takes some guts to face legal action and possibility of jail, especially when what he did wasn't essentially wrong (unless you had a sexually repressed Christian upbringing, in which case I'm terribly sorry for you). It was unlawful only in a strictly technical sense...and I don't know why I even bother with this. You can be tried for murder as an adult at 15 but you're not adult enough to have sex? There's something screwed up about that.
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Good Point
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I'd have killed Omega long ago. But I didn't, why? I don't want to go to jail.
How comforting.
There can be no justice so long as laws are absolute.
So long as the laws are just, sure there can. Mind you, I'm not saying I want to live in such a way that forgiveness is disallowed, but since the laws are totally secular, what option to you propose?
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Sorry, but you can't hope to stand up against the paragon of moral and ethical excellence that is DT. He is the perfect human being, and knows a lot about history too.
And, for those of you with your sarcasm detectors offline, he's a stuck-up cunt who shows his face round here once a year before being collectively told to fuck off. He seems to derive some strange entertainment from the process.
Was that intentional? Because your misspelling loses the pun entirely.
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quote:Originally posted by DT: Good god almighty! I haven't seen this many malcontents since, well... last time I was here. I'm glad everyone feels like trivial things like the law should be brushed aside willy nilly.
You have sex with a minor, you go to jail. Don't like it? Don't break the law. Don't like the law, work to change it. As Omega put it, the heart is no defense. If it was, I'd have killed Omega long ago. But I didn't, why? I don't want to go to jail.
I'm shocked so many here have come out against the law. Do any of you realize what it would be like without the law? Omega here would be dead, killed by one of us. Wait, that hurts my argument. Well, Simon surely would've been chewed up by now, his spindly frame rotting amidst a pile of Camper Von {sic} Beethoven CDs, murdered for his glasses by a myopic marauder. Does anyone want to see that?
And allow me to explain to Liam: see, women bleed from their na-nas every now and then, and babies come from their na-nas!
There is a difference between considering law beneficial, and considering it infallible. As a whole, the laws of our country are beneficial, as message board posters don't maraud each other's homes, killing at will because of murder laws. Its a strange piece of logic that would derive the conclusion that since one law was good, all of them must be.
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On the other hand, I'm sure that a good number of people who have broken the law think that they were justified in doing it. That doesn't make it so.
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Speaking of controversial laws that fail to account for individual circumstances, how about this one?
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What individual circumstance is unforseen by that particular bill?
It punishes theft. It does not discriminate by religion, race, sex, age, party, economic class, or any other criteria. It is therefore good.
As I see it, only people who could find it "controversial" are the people who are upset because they won't be allowed to steal anymore.
Of course, since piracy and copyright violation is already illegal, it is a bit redundant, but that's the price we pay for having moral relativists who try to worm their way around "the system" any way they can. Vile creatures.
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In the case of that law, it's so vague that it (seems to) outlaw ANY peer-to-peer file sharing system -- or at least, that's the way I've been reading it in the articles, and at how it may be enforced.
Sure, piracy is piracy and is wrong. Strange as it may seem, I've never participated in any of those kinds of file-sharing programs. But I can think of several other methods and means that could fall under the same qualifications described above and still be "right" in principle.
For instance -- if someone gets a draft version of an upcoming "Enterprise" episode script and posts it on their web page for viewing, they might be liable for $250,000 in damages and several years in prison, should Paramount decide to crack down on it and claim that they're losing money because of the "theft."
My point is that the people who wrote these kinds of laws either did not forsee the extent to which information availability would develop over the Internet, or else were in the back pockets of the various entertainment industry organizations.
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Perhaps we should put a vote to the people on whether or not this so-called "piracy" is wrong. Rather than leaving it to corporate-owned legislators.
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