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I'm not sure I understand the leap from that survey to "Oh my god, they're grooming our children to be Parsons!" It doesn't say who exactly is responsible for the survey. For all we know, it could be research that a graduate psychology student is doing on comparable attitudes towards morality and politics across generations. I mean, I certainly got surveys like that to complete in high school, dropped on me in the middle of a lecture the subject of which had nothing to do with the survey.
I think the realization of Bush's domestic spying program and just plain suspicion of the Bush Administration is making some people overly eager to see phantoms where there are none. I'd be willing to bet that I probably filled out a similar survey at some time in high school, and that was during the Clinton Administration.
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What are those A's and D's doing there, on the right hand side of the paper? You can't grade opinions, there's no proofs section for universal justice.
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So what happens if you fail this test? The SS comes to take you away?
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In one sense I have to agree with Siegfried in that without knowing who gave the survey/test and why, it's difficult to gauge the intent behind it.
However, with "answers" written off to the side, where a professor's comments are usually inserted, it does tend to lead one to believe that a student's perception of their environment is being graded or analyzed.
I suppose there always is the off chance that the answers to the side could also be a comparative of the 'national average' to the student's work.
It is all the little things like these that lead me to believe this country may be closer to a civil war than a world war. Especially when you take into account how many residents of Washington State act around election time, and all the discrepencies (sp?) during the last governor's election.
'Tis sad to think our opinions may become our downfall....but, I digress.
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"She has a GPA of 3.75 and uses her brain." Well that's good. No more coma students is what I say!
What it looks like to me is that they went through the thing afterwards and gave the "correct" answers. Note the little hashmark next to each number the student got "wrong" like they were making a note of which ones they got incorrect, and then what the "right" answer was.
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"I certainly got surveys like that to complete in high school, dropped on me in the middle of a lecture the subject of which had nothing to do with the survey."
Were you required to fill those out, though? Because the first thing I'd do if someone shoved a form like that under my nose without explanation to check and grade my patriotism level would probably be to tear it in half.
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That article doesn't give anywhere near enough information to reach conclusions as to the purpose of the survey. It certainly looks the kind of surveys that I've done for psychology or sociology students.
Also that website doesn't look to be an entirely neutral source.
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quote:Originally posted by Cartman: Were you required to fill those out, though? Because the first thing I'd do if someone shoved a form like that under my nose without explanation to check and grade my patriotism level would probably be to tear it in half.
No, I was never required to complete one. The website isn't working at the moment, but I don't remember the article saying whether or not the student in question was forced to take it or not. Another thing that make me a little suspicious is that the student apparently got the survey, graded and all, back from whoever administered it. I've never heard of anyone taking a survey and then getting to walk away with the answer sheet, but I do suppose that it is possible.
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If this were some sort of tool of the administration, and if those letters on the left represented the "right" answers, I would be very surprised by some of them. Particularly the first and fourth ones.
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Waht if she just wrote "Fuck you" in each slot? I'd like to see a student get expelled for something so obviously out of line.
Hmmm...I wonder how factual this is though: anyone get a link to a Washington newspaper covering the story? I'd imagine it's news over there.
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Student thinks killing is no good, admin may think that it is good to kill for the 'right' reason. Who determines the right reason?
Student disagrees that absolute power corrupts absolutely, admin may think that it does. I do to, look at the current US Admin to see what a little bit of power does and how it corrupts a lot.
2 is screwed, well, not really, after all politicians would never go against the people...
6 is screwed, comprimise what ever for the state.
7 is screwed, although it does show that more indoctrination is required.
If all students answered in such a manner then the scholls would have to really crack down, if that is the admins thinking.
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